You don’t stick with a failed leader when you are a $700 million dollar brand.

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This week could be a good time to experiment with the other 2 qbs. We need to make a hard decision with JG. Either we ride this out or replace him.
 
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I will say there isn’t much to gain from replacing him today. But if this goes the way it looks to be then you can his ass with two weeks left in the season to get ahead of the carousel. You also help the next coach start recruiting earlier. Unless of course he needs to coach a bowl game before he takes our job. Find the blue font.
 
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I sat in Athens in the pouring rain and watched Georgia run for 414 on the ground and beat a ranked Tennessee team. 0-1. The next week I headed over to Neyland to see Duke beat UT. 0-2. Back again the next week to see a LSU beatdown. 0-3. Stayed home for the trip to Jordan-Hare for another beating. 0-4. Next week, back to Neyland for (hopefully) the first win. Washington State hammered the Vols. 0-5. On to the Third Saturday in October at Shields-Watkins. Yep, 0-6.

This season is going to be tough. Man up and deal with it. Some of us have already been to this rodeo.
 
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volfanhill said:
No brand sticks with what is obviously failed leadership. You fire quickly and hire slowly. And when I say fire quickly, I mean once it’s been shown that the person can’t perform at the level of job they have. It’s far more damaging to any brand to hang onto poor leadership then it is to pay $9 million dollars in buyouts. The longer this continues the longer you put the brand at risk.


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This is so so true
 
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orang3krush said:
I sat in Athens in the pouring rain and watched Georgia run for 414 on the ground and beat a ranked Tennessee team. 0-1. The next week I headed over to Neyland to see Duke beat UT. 0-2. Back again the next week to see a LSU beatdown. 0-3. Stayed home for the trip to Jordan-Hare for another beating. 0-4. Next week, back to Neyland for (hopefully) the first win. Washington State hammered the Vols. 0-5. On to the Third Saturday in October at Shields-Watkins. Yep, 0-6.

This season is going to be tough. Man up and deal with it. Some of us have already been to this rodeo.
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Why live it twice? I have had plenty of **** moments in life, both personally and professionally, but I try to learn my lesson.
 
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Recovery can happen. New OC, new DC, and an 11-1 record the next season. I was pretty cool with that. But if we had canned Majors, we probably would have been 12-0. Should have definitely fired him. 11 games won is weak.
 
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volfanhill said:
Why live it twice? I have had plenty of **** moments in life, both personally and professionally, but I try to learn my lesson.
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I was at the duke and Washington state games. We took our first of many Spurrier beatings as his was dukes head coach. I survived and went on.
 
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orang3krush said:
Recovery can happen. New OC, new DC, and an 11-1 record the next season. I was pretty cool with that. But if we had canned Majors, we probably would have been 12-0. Should have definitely fired him. 11 games won is weak.
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What faith do you have that this coach can win 8? And please explain why. Let’s be clear here we are staring at a one to two win season right now. That’s not on Butch.
 
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No faith at all. I don't own a crystal ball. But I wish I did!

At 0-6, I felt we were staring at a winless season. But thankfully it didn't happen.
 
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Tarkus said:
So true. Pruitt may succeed or he may fail but no one knows which it will be at this point. The last 15 years are not Pruitt's fault. One season and two games isn't enough time to straighten out 15 years worth of mistakes.
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I like Pruitt but will be honest. One season and two games is enough time that the last two games shouldn't have happened. He still has time... but things better turn around in a hurry.
 
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volfanhill said:
No brand sticks with what is obviously failed leadership. You fire quickly and hire slowly. And when I say fire quickly, I mean once it’s been shown that the person can’t perform at the level of job they have. It’s far more damaging to any brand to hang onto poor leadership then it is to pay $9 million dollars in buyouts. The longer this continues the longer you put the brand at risk.


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Failed leader, you mean Fulmer right? I agree, fire him tomorrow.
 
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bigdaddy said:
There is a guy who is a winner working for ESpN right now. If his wife would let him, why not hire UM
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Even if he was desperate enough to coach again , he'd stroke out from the heat and pressure here. We have a 5-7 program right now (assuming average qb play) , and our fan base expects to be a 9-3 or better team within 3 years. The odds are just not good for that . We need to support Pruitt and give him a chance to get it together .
 
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I have resisted posting but I just have to say something. As a 59 year old and having been a Vols fan all of my life, I have seen some great times and some bad. The Georgia State game was close to, if not the worst loss I can remember. I don't know who you blame there as there was plenty to go around, but I think it lands squarely on the coaches. I thought after that game that they were looking ahead and took Georgia State as an automatic win. They paid for that. There was just no excuse for that.

The team played pretty well against BYU, but BYU made a few plays when they needed to. I remember a coach telling me once that you have to be in the game for each and every play, because sometimes all it takes is one play. We experienced that against BYU. I'm not saying that there weren't plenty of opportunities for us earlier in the game to make that play irrelevant, but we didn't. They caught us in a bad position and made us pay. It shouldn't have happened but it did, and we lost the game because of it.

Last year was bad, but I had hope for this season. I had hoped to come out of the first part of the season 3-0 with a real chance to go 4-0, 2-2 at the worst, but they have a LOT of work to do if 2-2 is going to happen. Do I want them to fire Pruitt? Are you kidding me? We all knew this rebuilding process would take three+ years, so why are all of these people calling for Pruitt's head after one year and two games? Because they sucked against Georgia State and they lost a toss-up game in double-overtime to BYU? I'm sorry, but I just can't hate the guy for that. I heard a UT beat writer say last week that every head coach was an assistant at one time, so IMO we give the guy the chance to do what he signed up to do. Learn how to be a head coach, and fix the program. No one said it would be easy, and no one said it would happen overnight, so why are we all so surprised?

Is he going to be a great head coach? I have no idea, but one season and two games really doesn't tell us much. One thing I think we can all agree on is that one of the head coach's most important jobs is to put together a good staff. I believe Pruitt has done that. That staff has to have good players to work with, and if you don't inherit good players, that only comes with time. We knew it wouldn't be easy, and that completely changing the culture of a program was bound to be painful. My guess is that many on here didn't want to admit just how painful.
 
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HAD a seven hundred million dollar brand. It might have been worth that when Hiller signed on the line before the first game. It might have been worth that looking at historical data, but it's not worth that now. I can't watch the games anymore, but I hope Pruitt is able to lead the ship back out to sea. If he can't, in the grand scheme of things, $18mil for buyouts will seem like nickels and dimes.

If you drop 35k in attendance in ONE game... and the average expenditure per person is $75 (all in), that's a $2,625,000 in one game. - that is a 2.6 million dollar loss - with 65,000 still in the stands.
 
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dougvolfan said:
This week could be a good time to experiment with the other 2 qbs. We need to make a hard decision with JG. Either we ride this out or replace him.
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I would start Maurer this weekend, there's no better time in the schedule. Given JG past fits and tantrums, he will probably leave the program today if it's announced he will be watching the game from the sideline Saturday and thats perfectly fine. However when the lineup comes out today JG will still be listed as the starter, this staff is too hard headed to make a change. Pruitt is going to ride JG into unemployment
 
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JVol76 said:
No, there isn't a single proven coach who would go anywhere knowing he'll get less than 2 seasons to get something turned around. I swear some of you are so delusional it's almost funny. Jeremy Pruitt isn't and shouldn't be going anywhere.
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No one in their right mind expected Pruitt to turn it around in year 2. Everyone expected to see improvement in year 2, so far we have seen regression.
 
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Tarkus said:
exactly. These guys need to understand that coaches watch how schools treat their coaches. No one wants to work for someone perceived to be unfair to their employees. 14 games is not going to be viewed as a fair chance by Pruitt's fellow coaches.
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Coaches also can look at their counterparts results and see that their buddy deserves to be fired.
 
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Pride85 said:
They haven't lost them in the last 50 years with the ups and downs. Not every fan is like you. If you want to see how a truly loyal fanbase reacts, look at Michigan. They have not exactly st the world on fire for quite awhile. I heard an interesting fact this weekend. They have had 385 straight games where over 100000 fans were in the stadium. didn't matter who they were playing or how they were playing. I keep hoping that we will get rid of the "fans" who aren't that loyal.
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Times and people are changing, just look at student attendance. Look at the number of cars with AL stickers/plates around middle TN these days, kids want to pull for a winner and it’s going to be harder and harder to hook these kids on the BO the longer we lose.
 
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orang3krush said:
Recovery can happen. New OC, new DC, and an 11-1 record the next season. I was pretty cool with that. But if we had canned Majors, we probably would have been 12-0. Should have definitely fired him. 11 games won is weak.
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If we would have canned Majors in ‘88 there was a guy over at Duke that would have jumped at an offer.
 
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