You don’t stick with a failed leader when you are a $700 million dollar brand.

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We'd have a billion dollar brand but Hammy was hesitant to pay a few hundred thousand extra to get Gary Patterson over Kiffin (and Dooley)

300,000,000 later, we are a P5 bottomfeeder. Way to save that half million Hammy...
 
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volfanhill said:
It really is as simple as you don’t put the brand at risk. We have obviously failed leadership. Once you know he’s not the right the fit he has to go. You may disagree l, and think that we don’t know that yet . I think we do. But once you know it you have to make a move for the brand itself. At no point did I say we could get whoever we want. But it’s BVS to think we can’t get a proven coach.
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No, there isn't a single proven coach who would go anywhere knowing he'll get less than 2 seasons to get something turned around. I swear some of you are so delusional it's almost funny. Jeremy Pruitt isn't and shouldn't be going anywhere.
 
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JVol76 said:
No, there isn't a single proven coach who would go anywhere knowing he'll get less than 2 seasons to get something turned around. I swear some of you are so delusional it's almost funny. Jeremy Pruitt isn't and shouldn't be going anywhere.
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^^^^^ Battered Vol Syndrome.
 
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JVol76 said:
No, there isn't a single proven coach who would go anywhere knowing he'll get less than 2 seasons to get something turned around. I swear some of you are so delusional it's almost funny. Jeremy Pruitt isn't and shouldn't be going anywhere.
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I think they will understand you can’t go 2- and whatever
 
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sjt18 said:
You have to calculate everything including what it does to your brand to fire a respected coach in large measure for the sins of his predecessor. I've never argued that a coach "deserved" time. They have to earn their capital. But I don't think it helps the program to fire him or even talk about it at this point.
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So true. Pruitt may succeed or he may fail but no one knows which it will be at this point. The last 15 years are not Pruitt's fault. One season and two games isn't enough time to straighten out 15 years worth of mistakes.
 
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Pride85 said:
Wahhhh! Fahr 'em, fahr 'em all. That $700 million doesn't mean that is liquid assets that they can afford to toss down the drain. Are you going to fit the bill for buyouts on both sides and all me coaching staffs. then will you be happy If the new coach struggles in his first year? How long before you ate calling for that coach's head.
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Right around the time he has lost by a combined 69 points in his last four games to the likes of Missouri, Vandy, GA state, and BYU.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Great point!

Now who are we gonna come and get to lead this $700 million brand?
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It's really a shame Bama didn't take this same attitude twelve years ago when they were in the midst of a ten-year slump. If they had just been content to ride it out with Shula, we might not have lost to them twelve years running now.
 
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illvol said:
Proven how? Proven where? Just curious. Like Scott Frost proven? Or Chip Kelly proven? The fact is we don’t know what we have. Our staff can coach. They’re proven right? Everyone flipped their sh*t when we took CJC from UGA...now after two games you want to send him packing? Let them do their jobs. It’s gonna be tough to watch. It’s going to suck and we are going to lose games. Maybe lots of them. But if you can’t see the young players they are bringing in and how they play and the potential they have I can’t help you. With the current OL we have plus the prospective recruits and the defensive players such as Crouch and HT we are building. You can’t live in a house you haven’t finished building and you don’t fire the contractor once he gets the walls up because you can’t move in. It’s not ready, and yes, that takes time.
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You mean like that second-year corner that was good last year and then yesterday played like a concussed eighth-grader on the most important play of the game?
 
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volfanhill said:
Once again you prove your own ignorance. Tell us more about how Peyton was owned by bama.
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Once again, you misconstrue my words. 3-5 record vs our biggest rival with an 0fer to one.

Pretty hard to cherry pick there but you never disappoint.
 
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lifeisdeep said:
How exactly is Mike Norvell "lol"? He's not Hugh Freeze, but he has a hell of a lot better resume as a head coach than the one we have right now.
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And won exactly what at Memphis?

You’re not dropping $20+ million on coaching buyouts to go sign Norvell to run the $700M brand
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Once again, you misconstrue my words. 3-5 record vs our biggest rival with an 0fer to one.

Pretty hard to cherry pick there but you never disappoint.
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You were the one who said he choked against the Florida and Bamas of the world. You should have just brought up Florida. Blame yourself not me.
 
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lifeisdeep said:
It's really a shame Bama didn't take this same attitude twelve years ago when they were in the midst of a ten-year slump. If they had just been content to ride it out with Shula, we might not have lost to them twelve years running now.
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They gave Shula 4 seasons before he was replaced.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
And won exactly what at Memphis?
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This is a joke, right? He set the record for most number of wins in a first season at Memphis; then the next year he barely lost in OT to UCF in the league championship - you know, the same UCF that shortly thereafter throttled Auburn that had just played in the SECCG? Then they went to a bowl game (you know, those things we haven't been to in a while) and lost by one point to Iowa State, who earlier that season beat #3 Oklahoma and #4 TCU. Maybe you missed it, but a week ago his team beat another SEC team in Ole Miss.

He doesn't yet have Urban Meyer's track record. On the other hand, he's got an exponentially better track record than someone who lost six games by 25 or more last year and so far this year has lost to Georgia State and BYU.

Serious question: what do you think that Memphis team would do to Georgia State?
 
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lifeisdeep said:
And he rewarded them with going 6-6 his final year and causing them to get sanctions three years after he was fired for stuff that happened under his watch.
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All Im saying is they gave him time. Not 14 games into his tenure as bama head coach.
 
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lifeisdeep said:
This is a joke, right? He set the record for most number of wins in a first season at Memphis; then the next year he barely lost in OT to UCF in the league championship - you know, the same UCF that shortly thereafter throttled Auburn that had just played in the SECCG? Then they went to a bowl game (you know, those things we haven't been to in a while) and lost by one point to Iowa State, who earlier that season beat #3 Oklahoma and #4 TCU. Maybe you missed it, but a week ago his team beat another SEC team in Ole Miss.

He doesn't yet have Urban Meyer's track record. On the other hand, he's got an exponentially better track record than someone who lost six games by 25 or more last year and so far this year has lost to Georgia State and BYU.

Serious question: what do you think that Memphis team would do to Georgia State?
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In this guys, and several others, “proven” means a coach who had been in the CFP final four. It’s laughable. Norvell is a hell of a coach. Exactly the coach we should be looking for. Develops talent and schemes well. We get so stuck on must be a great recruiter. Let’s get a good coach, surround them with good recruiters, and poor our resources at recruiting. But we have to have a proven commodity at HC. Norvell is that.
 
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lifeisdeep said:
This is a joke, right? He set the record for most number of wins in a first season at Memphis; then the next year he barely lost in OT to UCF in the league championship - you know, the same UCF that shortly thereafter throttled Auburn that had just played in the SECCG? Then they went to a bowl game (you know, those things we haven't been to in a while) and lost by one point to Iowa State, who earlier that season beat #3 Oklahoma and #4 TCU. Maybe you missed it, but a week ago his team beat another SEC team in Ole Miss.

He doesn't yet have Urban Meyer's track record. On the other hand, he's got an exponentially better track record than someone who lost six games by 25 or more last year and so far this year has lost to Georgia State and BYU.

Serious question: what do you think that Memphis team would do to Georgia State?
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So almost winners in the AAC is what we want to turn around the “$700M Brand”?
 
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lifeisdeep said:
You mean like that second-year corner that was good last year and then yesterday played like a concussed eighth-grader on the most important play of the game?
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Is that the norm for him or did he make a mistake? Who else on this team would you rather have there. Also tell me the coaching staff who’s players don’t make mistakes. I’ll advocate for their hire from now till Christmas but it doesn’t happen. Our mistakes are just amplified because we don’t have top talent all over the field.
 
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Dooley, Jones and Pruitt should get a little extra buyout.

Hire
Dabo - HC
Urbs - OC
Saban - DC
Majors - ST

And double Phil's salary for getting pen to paper.

Trophy U
 
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