Team quit on Pruitt cause he’s playing favorites. (Starting JG)

[tennrich1]

Yeah...that sounds like Jeremy....playing favorites....who knew

 

[1vol8]

How have you gotten to watch them both play live on several occasions? Are you at practice everyday, for all of the sessions. You must provide your "stats".

I’ve been to practice on occasion yes. But until about a year ago I lived in BMs area coincidentally. So I had the luxury of being able to watch pretty much through his HS career.

 

[Pride85]

I’ve been to practice on occasion yes. But until about a year ago I lived in BMs area coincidentally. So I had the luxury of being able to watch pretty much through his HS career.

So you have watched one in college and one in high school. Soooooooo, apples to bowling ball's. For what it is worth, JG was the number 1 rated dual threat QB in high school. It is harder playing in the SEC than any high school.

 

[1vol8]

Let me offer an alternate viewpoint. JG is not conservative, but his coaches instruct him to take short passes so as not to risk bad mistake. Bad mistake which both JG and BM make consistently when they throw deep. the coaches have obviously seen big red flags in both QBs ability to make correct reads and make consistent throws. This exact same thing happened with Dobbs. the coaches didnt think he was consistently good enough to throw downfield without making horrible reads and tossing game changing interceptions and thus Dobbs became the guy that rarely threw it anywhere but the flats. Not because he wanted to but because his coaches forced it.

That’s always possible.

 

[08Vol]

No. Auburn and Kentucky were outliers.

Exactly this. People forget that Dooley came one play away from beating a top 10 LSU team. The 05 team did beat a top 10 LSU team before falling apart. Butch beat a top 10 SCAR team and was a Pig Howard goal line fumble away from beating a top 10 UGA team his first year.

During the off season many said they would be ok with 6 wins if the team looked better in those losses. Well the team looked like they didn’t know what was going on or care about the outcome.

 

[alaVOL]

Pruitt should pull a Spurrier. Coach his expertise and let the other coordinator run his side. So Pruitt coach D and let the OC run the offense.

 

[Volfaninfl2]

I mostly agree with you but even the announcers said that 300 yards throwing would mislead you to believe JG had a good game. The stats were misleading mainly due to the one long throw he made which was mostly the wide receiver running.

The harness was put on JG because the coaches dont trust his abilities. Same as last year.

If you want to come closer to comparing JG and BM, apples to apples, then a look at what each produced as a Senior in high school should be helpful. If JG is under a harness by his college Coaches, it looks like his high school Coaches did the same, or this lack of production is how he has always played.


For comparison, looked up Senior high school stats for: Trevor Lawrence, Jarrett Guarantano, Brian Maurer, JT Shrout, and Harrison Bailey as a Junior.

Playing in Georgia: TL in 12 games, 3290 passing yds., 41 tds., 1 int.

Playing in New Jersey: JG in 10 games, 1481 passing yds., 11 tds., 3 int.

Playing in FL: BM in 10 games, 3572 passing yds., 34 tds., 12 int.

Playing in CA: JTS in 12 games, 3064 passing yds., 27 tds., 25 int.

Playing in GA (as a Junior): HB in 9 games, 2809 passing yds., 29 tds., 6 int.

One has never passed for many yards or scored many touchdowns, and that was against New Jersey competition.

 

[1vol8]

If you want to come closer to comparing JG and BM, apples to apples, then a look at what each produced as a Senior in high school should be helpful. If JG is under a harness by his college Coaches, it looks like his high school Coaches did the same, or this lack of production is how he has always played.


For comparison, looked up Senior high school stats for: Trevor Lawrence, Jarrett Guarantano, Brian Maurer, JT Shrout, and Harrison Bailey as a Junior.

Playing in Georgia: TL in 12 games, 3290 passing yds., 41 tds., 1 int.

Playing in New Jersey: JG in 10 games, 1481 passing yds., 11 tds., 3 int.

Playing in FL: BM in 10 games, 3572 passing yds., 34 tds., 12 int.

Playing in CA: JTS in 12 games, 3064 passing yds., 27 tds., 25 int.

Playing in GA (as a Junior): HB in 9 games, 2809 passing yds., 29 tds., 6 int.

One has never passed for many yards or scored many touchdowns, and that was against New Jersey competition.

So let me get this straight. Are you saying, BY FACTUAL NUMBERS, That BM threw for more yards in 10 games than the GOAT himself did in 12?

Are you saying that WHILE throwing for more yards, he did it against competition from the the known #1 hotbed in the country (Florida)?

Are you saying that he leads this board despite having no o line to protect him while he did it?

Good thing this list didn’t include all purpose yards huh? Otherwise LittleVol and 1vol8 May look like they knew what they were talking about. Can’t have that.

 

[Volfaninfl2]

So let me get this straight. Are you saying, BY FACTUAL NUMBERS, That BM threw for more yards in 10 games than the GOAT himself did in 12?

Are you saying that WHILE throwing for more yards, he did it against competition from the the known #1 hotbed in the country (Florida)?

Are you saying that he leads this board despite having no o line to protect him while he did it?

Good thing this list didn’t include all purpose yards huh? Otherwise LittleVol and 1vol8 May look like they knew what they were talking about. Can’t have that.

Just the facts, ma’am. Yes, these numbers are eye-opening. Would hope everyone could see them. As you have seen Maurer play, would like to request that you describe his high school and Elite 11 play, here, as you did in comment #161 in thread Pruitt’s qb reasoning, and why Pruitt is possibly not playing him, as you did in comment #153.

Some have said the Coaches have so much time and effort invested in JG, that they hate to give up on him, that, and pride, and that Pruitt wants to win with defense.

I totally believe if Pruitt put in Maurer, it would lift the whole team. When the offense can score, the defense gets pumped with energy both physically and emotionally.
GO VOLS!

 

[Bluetick7578]

You sound like a players parent.

not at all just an explayer

 

[1vol8]

Just the facts, ma’am. Yes, these numbers are eye-opening. Would hope everyone could see them. As you have seen Maurer play, would like to request that you describe his high school and Elite 11 play, here, as you did in comment #161 in thread Pruitt’s qb reasoning, and why Pruitt is possibly not playing him, as you did in comment #153.

Some have said the Coaches have so much time and effort invested in JG, that they hate to give up on him, that, and pride, and that Pruitt wants to win with defense.

I totally believe if Pruitt put in Maurer, it would lift the whole team. When the offense can score, the defense gets pumped with energy both physically and emotionally.
GO VOLS!

I’ll try and copy and paste both comments per your request. Might even add a little something.

 

[Russdaddy2027]

So you have watched one in college and one in high school. Soooooooo, apples to bowling ball's. For what it is worth, JG was the number 1 rated dual threat QB in high school. It is harder playing in the SEC than any high school.

I've seen the running half of that dual threat.......Wheeeew Dogggggies that kid has some wheels, and the downfield part of the threat we ll lots not even go there

 

[Russdaddy2027]

If you want to come closer to comparing JG and BM, apples to apples, then a look at what each produced as a Senior in high school should be helpful. If JG is under a harness by his college Coaches, it looks like his high school Coaches did the same, or this lack of production is how he has always played.


For comparison, looked up Senior high school stats for: Trevor Lawrence, Jarrett Guarantano, Brian Maurer, JT Shrout, and Harrison Bailey as a Junior.

Playing in Georgia: TL in 12 games, 3290 passing yds., 41 tds., 1 int.

Playing in New Jersey: JG in 10 games, 1481 passing yds., 11 tds., 3 int.

Playing in FL: BM in 10 games, 3572 passing yds., 34 tds., 12 int.

Playing in CA: JTS in 12 games, 3064 passing yds., 27 tds., 25 int.

Playing in GA (as a Junior): HB in 9 games, 2809 passing yds., 29 tds., 6 int.

One has never passed for many yards or scored many touchdowns, and that was against New Jersey competition.

against competition in NJ that well just doesn't compare to GA, FL, or Cali!!! I think Butch got "tricked by a buisness" a stars recruiting buisness!

 

[1vol8]

Just the facts, ma’am. Yes, these numbers are eye-opening. Would hope everyone could see them. As you have seen Maurer play, would like to request that you describe his high school and Elite 11 play, here, as you did in comment #161 in thread Pruitt’s qb reasoning, and why Pruitt is possibly not playing him, as you did in comment #153.

Some have said the Coaches have so much time and effort invested in JG, that they hate to give up on him, that, and pride, and that Pruitt wants to win with defense.

I totally believe if Pruitt put in Maurer, it would lift the whole team. When the offense can score, the defense gets pumped with energy both physically and emotionally.
GO VOLS!

 

[1vol8]

Just the facts, ma’am. Yes, these numbers are eye-opening. Would hope everyone could see them. As you have seen Maurer play, would like to request that you describe his high school and Elite 11 play, here, as you did in comment #161 in thread Pruitt’s qb reasoning, and why Pruitt is possibly not playing him, as you did in comment #153.

Some have said the Coaches have so much time and effort invested in JG, that they hate to give up on him, that, and pride, and that Pruitt wants to win with defense.

I totally believe if Pruitt put in Maurer, it would lift the whole team. When the offense can score, the defense gets pumped with energy both physically and emotionally.
GO VOLS!

For those that don’t know how BM stacks up against the best in his class. Here you go.

 

[pimo1]

it just blows my mind how closely this matches the conversation about Dobbs going into his Junior year

 

[MWAVolfan]

If you want to come closer to comparing JG and BM, apples to apples, then a look at what each produced as a Senior in high school should be helpful. If JG is under a harness by his college Coaches, it looks like his high school Coaches did the same, or this lack of production is how he has always played.


For comparison, looked up Senior high school stats for: Trevor Lawrence, Jarrett Guarantano, Brian Maurer, JT Shrout, and Harrison Bailey as a Junior.

Playing in Georgia: TL in 12 games, 3290 passing yds., 41 tds., 1 int.

Playing in New Jersey: JG in 10 games, 1481 passing yds., 11 tds., 3 int.

Playing in FL: BM in 10 games, 3572 passing yds., 34 tds., 12 int.

Playing in CA: JTS in 12 games, 3064 passing yds., 27 tds., 25 int.

Playing in GA (as a Junior): HB in 9 games, 2809 passing yds., 29 tds., 6 int.

One has never passed for many yards or scored many touchdowns, and that was against New Jersey competition.

My guess is that Jeremy Pruitt was looking at these very numbers when he laughed and tapped his fingers in his best Mr Burns impression when deciding to purposefully and inexplicable bench the clearly better quarterback in favor of a guy he didn't recruit from an offensive system he didn't design.

Likewise I'm sure he shouted down the brand new OC who's a proven offensive guru whom, by your logic must have been lobbying to start Maurer immediately in spite of the fact that he just stepped foot on campus, because my God, did you see his high school stats?

I'm positive that Pruitt put all the evidence aside and decided to risk his reputation and coaching career on the possible loss to Georgia State because all that makes total sense.

 

[MWAVolfan]

the most popular player on a losing team is the backup quarterback. Always been true.

 

[Zues1]

My guess is that Jeremy Pruitt was looking at these very numbers when he laughed and tapped his fingers in his best Mr Burns impression when deciding to purposefully and inexplicable bench the clearly better quarterback in favor of a guy he didn't recruit from an offensive system he didn't design.

Likewise I'm sure he shouted down the brand new OC who's a proven offensive guru whom, by your logic must have been lobbying to start Maurer immediately in spite of the fact that he just stepped foot on campus, because my God, did you see his high school stats?

I'm positive that Pruitt put all the evidence aside and decided to risk his reputation and coaching career on the possible loss to Georgia State because all that makes total sense.

Not sure what the scenario is but his reputation is damn sure tarnished after the the last three games he's coached

 

[1vol8]

My guess is that Jeremy Pruitt was looking at these very numbers when he laughed and tapped his fingers in his best Mr Burns impression when deciding to purposefully and inexplicable bench the clearly better quarterback in favor of a guy he didn't recruit from an offensive system he didn't design.

Likewise I'm sure he shouted down the brand new OC who's a proven offensive guru whom, by your logic must have been lobbying to start Maurer immediately in spite of the fact that he just stepped foot on campus, because my God, did you see his high school stats?

I'm positive that Pruitt put all the evidence aside and decided to risk his reputation and coaching career on the possible loss to Georgia State because all that makes total sense.

The point of the HS stats is to show potential that most don’t think he has. A lot of you guys keep selling this kid short and have no idea what’s sitting right on our sidelines.

 

[MWAVolfan]

The point of the HS stats is to show potential that most don’t think he has. A lot of you guys keep selling this kid short and have no idea what’s sitting right on our sidelines.

None of us is selling him short. Jeremy Pruitt and his staff have made their assessment and clearly, no matter how good his high school stats were, he was not good enough to beat out JG as the starting QB which is the only assessment that matters. That speaks louder than anything else.

 

[1vol8]

None of us is selling him short. Jeremy Pruitt and his staff have made their assessment and clearly, no matter how good his high school stats were, he was not good enough to beat out JG as the starting QB which is the only assessment that matters. That speaks louder than anything else.

I think you may or may not be half right. “Jeremy Pruitt” May not so much “his staff”. One was quoted saying just the opposite of what you’ve heard from the defensive minded HC. Weinke used words such as “it factor” and “neither have throw many ints”. So who do we believe?

 

[TnSmith]

The transfer portal can be a noose around a good recruiter’s neck, because it can pressure coaches to play high heroes before they are ready, in order to keep the recruit.

Pruitt is a good coach. There is a world of difference between a good coordinator and a good HC. Coach Fulmer, HOFamer, is a good mentor. I believe Fulmer got it right, and it will work out well if the higher-ups let Coach Pruitt, the staff and Phillip and his administrative team continue to lead this formerly lost-as-a-bling-duck-in-a-fog football program out of the ether. The best thing Vols football can receive is for fans, boosters and university leadership to allow the process of fixing football to play out.

They gotta give time time. The mechanism is in place. Some more problem players probably will depart the premises before UT is great again.

But the boat is barely in the river. Let it move forward and back the leadership and team. Things will improve... and if fans STAY positive, that will be a lot sooner.

Go Vols!

 

[GVol1966]

So I haven’t heard receivers really speak highly of JG. I haven’t heard his team really referencing him as a leader or the coaching staff. As a 3rd year QB I think that’s kind of strange.

Pruitt has come in and really made a point to play the guys who perform and he’s continuing to start JG. I think the team knows what we know about JG and they’re not buying in to him. He handicaps the offense and it makes Pruitt look like a hypocrite who is playing favorites.

I think that plus playing guys like Jeremy Banks at linebacker (a guy who’s never played snaps at LB and just started practicing with the group) and To’o(a true freshman who’s been on campus for 4 months) shows the players that Pruitt only cares about his guys. I think it caused a divide amongst the team and that’s why I think those boys didn’t rally together when they were getting hit in the mouth. Also explains why Pruitt didn’t bother trying to rule them up cause he knows how they feel already.

Going to be a long year fellas

Post makes zero sense. Team quit because he only cares about “his” guys , and because he plays JG (Jones Guy) over the 2 QB’s he recruited???????

 

[VolEngineer]

I'm sure Maurer will get his chance sometime this year. If JG gets pulled then I think him and shrout will both get shots. There is also a big possibility JG gets injured at least once this season, since its seems like the offensive line isn't much better. Either way, he will probably get a shot at some point this season and if he's good they may just keep him in. I like the guy, I really do, and ever since I saw him in the orange and white game I truly believe he could he a star.