Team quit on Pruitt cause he’s playing favorites. (Starting JG)

[1vol8]

the two criteria any coach is gonna use to determine starters is this: and this goes for any football program.

1. Does the player put us in the best position to win (ie doesnt make stupid costly mistakes that kill our chances)
2. If you cant have #1 because you dont have that player then does the player play hard every snap

what is clear to me now is that we dont have a QB that can win games, but JG has the most experience againt SEC opponents and thus gives us the only hope we have and also we dont have enough players on the team willing to play hard every snap.


Both are terrible terrible places for an SEC program to be in.

I agree with every word. But here’s the thing. We just lost .....again..... but this time to Ga freakin State with JG at the helm. His style of play played a HUGE part in why we lost. Therefore the idea that JG is our best chance to win is now void. He’s not our best chance to win and by now that should be obvious to not only me.... but you and every other man or woman that’s ever worn the color orange.

 

[1vol8]

I'm saying it's not real evidence. That's all. It's like saying you saw the first Titans preseason game and they blew the doors off the opponent and you claim that based on that they will go to the super bowl. It's actually more ridiculous than that. The spring game might as well be the Harlem Globetrotters vs the Washington Generals. It's just entertainment.

And what I’m trying to get through is I am more than likely the ONLY poster on this board that’s actually seen them BOTH play live and on several occasions. If I’m telling you that BM is better/ more talented I’m not blowing smoke.

 

[lexkyvol]

simplest answer is usually the correct one. JG starts cause the others are worse at QB.

Regardless of "his guys" or "Butch's guys" he will play the ones who play hardest and give the team a chance to win the most games.

due to their personal feelings, some folk will never admit this is true!

 

[MWAVolfan]

I agree with every word. But here’s the thing. We just lost .....again..... but this time to Ga freakin State with JG at the helm. His style of play played a HUGE part in why we lost. Therefore the idea that JG is our best chance to win is now void. He’s not our best chance to win and by now that should be obvious to not only me.... but you and every other man or woman that’s ever worn the color orange.

I don't believe his style of play or any style of play is why we lost that game. the issues are way way way bigger than that. A QB's style can never be the reason you lost to Ga St. You have to have much bigger issues going on behind the scenes.

I dont believe if BM was the QB it would have cause a different result. the defense of this team is the worst I've ever seen and Tim Tebow wouldn't have won that game for us.

 

[1vol8]

I don't believe his style of play or any style of play is why we lost that game. the issues are way way way bigger than that. A QB's style can never be the reason you lost to Ga St. You have to have much bigger issues going on behind the scenes.

I dont believe if BM was the QB it would have cause a different result. the defense of this team is the worst I've ever seen and Tim Tebow wouldn't have won that game for us.

Let me explain how the style actually changes everything. JG is conservative. Therefore they load the box. Helps against the short pass and run support. BM is a gunslinger and true DT. He’ll take any throw you give him to all 3 levels. Therefore a defense can no longer stack the box to defend him. They’ll have to play coverage or blitz and hope like hell he doesn’t get away. It also changes rushing lanes. As a OC you’ll know which lanes they will more likely take to keep the qb contained and call run plays to counter. So not only are there less in the box they are assigned to certain lanes due to qb playing style. The run game and o line open up lanes because there are less bodies to move. The fact that he’s a gunslinger and DT keeps the chains moving. The opposing offense can only watch

 

[lexkyvol]

Let me explain how the style actually changes everything. JG is conservative. Therefore they load the box. Helps against the short pass and run support. BM is a gunslinger and true DT. He’ll take any throw you give him to all 3 levels. Therefore a defense can no longer stack the box to defend him. They’ll have to play coverage or blitz and hope like hell he doesn’t get away. It also changes rushing lanes. As a OC you’ll know which lanes they will more likely take to keep the qb contained and call run plays to counter. So not only are there less in the box they are assigned to certain lanes due to qb playing style. The run game and o line open up lanes because there are less bodies to move. The fact that he’s a gunslinger and DT keeps the chains moving. The opposing offense can only watch

over 300 yards passing doesnt support ur claim or box-crowding. also, this is a shytty attempt to alleviate the o-line and running game of being crap yet again. you basically came up with an entire paragragh full of bologna to support your cause. the o-line was crap with dobbs, dormady, chryst, jg........period

but lets play the blame JG game and blame him as well for the 38 the defense gave up. im sure you have a way of doing so

 

[1vol8]

over 300 yards passing doesnt support ur claim or box-crowding. also, this is a shytty attempt to alleviate the o-line and running game of being crap yet again. you basically came up with an entire paragragh full of bologna to support your cause. the o-line was crap with dobbs, dormady, chryst, jg........period

but lets play the blame JG game and blame him as well for the 38 the defense gave up. im sure you have a way of doing so

If you have been paying attention to the boards you’d know I was and actually still am a JG supporter. I see what I see and I seen he has issues that I’d hoped he would improve on. He hasn’t. In fact it almost looked like he may have regressed in a few areas. He’s had ample time to get better and it just hasn’t happened.

 

[lexkyvol]

If you have been paying attention to the boards you’d know I was and actually still am a JG supporter. I see what I see and I seen he has issues that I’d hoped he would improve on. He hasn’t. In fact it almost looked like he may have regressed in a few areas. He’s had ample time to get better and it just hasn’t happened.

the TEAM hasnt got better. there's ZERO reason to single out anyone right now

 

[pimo1]

sweet lawd the guy threw for over 300 yards and 2 TD's and neither of the turnovers he was credited with were his fault perse. Any QB gets blindsided like that is gonna fumble. The pick was in desperation time. he did throw a bad pick earlier but that was called back. JG didn't play a perfect game but this loss is definitely not on him or the WR's at all. They did more than enough to win. JG did

The main problems in that game were the defense was lost in every possible imaginable way and the constant shuffling of olinemen. We panicked and gave up on the run game too early and we got some terrible breaks but terrible breaks are a sign of a team not doing their part. A good team will overcome adversity and minimize mistakes. we let them snowball out of control. Its the first time i saw this team look beat they never looked like that last year no matter how bad or what opponent.

I honestly think all the off field distractions have played a role. Not knowing eligibility or availability of Solomon or Smith till last moment hurt the lines. Losing our best CB and having to replace him with a true freshman hurt us worse than most people probably noticed WB got picked on all night.

Nothing that happened is not fixable and hopefully a combination of a week to straighten things out with more stability combined with the pain of this loss.. this loss should serve as a huge wakeup call for everyone involved.

 

[1vol8]

the TEAM hasnt got better. there's ZERO reason to single out anyone right now

The o line improved. In fact pass protection was actually impressive. We got stronger at RB with Grey. The problem is a loaded box due to JGs playing style. There are more defenders at the LOS than there are o lineman. Even on plays they are not loading the box they play downhill. Once again due to being conservative and safe.

 

[AM64]

I know it was GA State...but I thought we’d have the first 6-8 plays somewhat scripted. They’d have been practices and rehearsed.

The receivers and QB were not on the same page at all. The lack of preparation sunk the team early.

Yep. It looked like the coaches spent too much time finding the "right" players, and too little time working those players as a team. At some point in every project, test, program, or whatever you have to quit tinkering with the parts and put the damn thing together and get it tuned up and working as a whole. If you've ever had to "put a show on the road" and haven't made that mistake, you are the one in a million or not telling yourself the truth. Let's hope this staff understands that now, but sometimes it is a lesson that people have to relearn when the staff get shuffled. The head coach has to think like a successful NASCAR crew chief.

 

[Pepe]

Yes you had me right up till you called JG a Pruitt pet.

In other words in the title

 

[Pepe]

I'd Shroud or Maurer we better options, Chaney and Weinke would have started them over JG.

That's something you have no way of knowing.

 

[MWAVolfan]

Let me explain how the style actually changes everything. JG is conservative. Therefore they load the box. Helps against the short pass and run support. BM is a gunslinger and true DT. He’ll take any throw you give him to all 3 levels. Therefore a defense can no longer stack the box to defend him. They’ll have to play coverage or blitz and hope like hell he doesn’t get away. It also changes rushing lanes. As a OC you’ll know which lanes they will more likely take to keep the qb contained and call run plays to counter. So not only are there less in the box they are assigned to certain lanes due to qb playing style. The run game and o line open up lanes because there are less bodies to move. The fact that he’s a gunslinger and DT keeps the chains moving. The opposing offense can only watch

Let me offer an alternate viewpoint. JG is not conservative, but his coaches instruct him to take short passes so as not to risk bad mistake. Bad mistake which both JG and BM make consistently when they throw deep. the coaches have obviously seen big red flags in both QBs ability to make correct reads and make consistent throws. This exact same thing happened with Dobbs. the coaches didnt think he was consistently good enough to throw downfield without making horrible reads and tossing game changing interceptions and thus Dobbs became the guy that rarely threw it anywhere but the flats. Not because he wanted to but because his coaches forced it.

 

[MWAVolfan]

over 300 yards passing doesnt support ur claim or box-crowding. also, this is a shytty attempt to alleviate the o-line and running game of being crap yet again. you basically came up with an entire paragragh full of bologna to support your cause. the o-line was crap with dobbs, dormady, chryst, jg........period

but lets play the blame JG game and blame him as well for the 38 the defense gave up. im sure you have a way of doing so

I mostly agree with you but even the announcers said that 300 yards throwing would mislead you to believe JG had a good game. The stats were misleading mainly due to the one long throw he made which was mostly the wide receiver running.

The harness was put on JG because the coaches dont trust his abilities. Same as last year.

 

[Sin City Vol]

The biggest issue this team has is the defense, specifically the DL. That team destroyed us upfront and rushed for over 200 yards... did JG play bad?? Yes but unless the D gets better this is going to be a 3-4 win year

 

[Pride85]

And what I’m trying to get through is I am more than likely the ONLY poster on this board that’s actually seen them BOTH play live and on several occasions. If I’m telling you that BM is better/ more talented I’m not blowing smoke.

How have you gotten to watch them both play live on several occasions? Are you at practice everyday, for all of the sessions. You must provide your "stats".

 

[MWAVolfan]

That's something you have no way of knowing.

I have yet to find an example where a coach of any team purposefully started a QB that he didn't believe gave him the best chance to win the game. That's where you should begin thinking about this.

 

[MyVolsDropped]

If Jalen Hurts had transferred to UT JG would still be the starter.

I don't know what's so hard about benching this kid.

If they won't bench him then his graduation can't come soon enough!

UT will be a better football program when JG is not under center.

 

[MWAVolfan]

If Jalen Hurts had transferred to UT JG would still be the starter.

I don't know what's so hard about benching this kid.

If they won't bench him then his graduation can't come soon enough!

UT will be a better football program when JG is not under center.

thats just wrong. They wont start anyone else because all the coaches know there isnt anyone better. You should just deal with that now.

Hear what I am saying. I am not saying JG is good. I am not claiming to be his supporter. I'm saying no one else it better. As in we dont have sh!t at the QB position.

 

[EZE]

I’ll just ask two questions:

1. Who was the most dynamic QB on the field this past Saturday?

2. In what percentage of his starts has JG been the most dynamic QB on the field?

Sorry pumpers, but the guy is just not a dynamic player.

 

[BLUTickbusdriver]

sweet lawd the guy threw for over 300 yards and 2 TD's and neither of the turnovers he was credited with were his fault perse. Any QB gets blindsided like that is gonna fumble. The pick was in desperation time. he did throw a bad pick earlier but that was called back.

And that second throw of the game, which was a 95mph fast ball at 4 yds, which was credited to the running back, was and is JGs fault! It looked like JG was playing dodge ball. He has terrible field awareness and basic situational awareness. This is most obvious when he lingers and holds on to the ball, but it also is obvious when he stares down his receivers...and now it’s starting to show up with his lack of intangibles...playing ultra conservative all the time, always checking down to the point that the other side banks on it (being predictable), and as I mentioned above, not being able to put the right touch on a ball...whether it’s super short like the 2nd pass of the game or a rare long ball that he might chance every other game or so.

 

[NEVolFan]

And that second throw of the game, which was a 95mph fast ball at 4 yds, that was credited to the running back was and is JGs fault...it looked like he was playing dodge ball. He has terrible field awareness and basic situational awareness. This is most obvious when he lingers and holds on to the ball, but it also is obvious when he stares down his receivers...and now it’s starting to show up with his lack of intangibles...playing ultra conservative all the time, always checking down to the point that the other side banks on it (being predictable), and as I mentioned above, not being able to put the right touch on a ball...whether it’s super short like the 2nd pass of the game or a rare long ball that he might chance every other game or so.

Likely he is playing the wrong sport...

 

[MyVolsDropped]

And that second throw of the game, which was a 95mph fast ball at 4 yds, that was credited to the running back was and is JGs fault...it looked like he was playing dodge ball. He has terrible field awareness and basic situational awareness. This is most obvious when he lingers and holds on to the ball, but it also is obvious when he stares down his receivers...and now it’s starting to show up with his lack of intangibles...playing ultra conservative all the time, always checking down to the point that the other side banks on it (being predictable), and as I mentioned above, not being able to put the right touch on a ball...whether it’s super short like the 2nd pass of the game or a rare long ball that he might chance every other game or so.

Exactly.

JG lacks the fundamentals of being a QB.

You can't tell me that every backup we have also lacks them as well.

Bench JG already. Sheeesh.

 

[EODVOL]

yes he is but he's not ready to be the starter but he is going to be a good player for some years to come

JG is not prepared to be a starter either, but here we are...