UF loses another 4* Recruit

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De La Cloobs said:
Screw Florida

Another one bites the dust

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But yeah, kind of comes with the territory of being a new coach and trying to make a splash on signing day. You end up with a lot of risks (grades, attitude, injury etc) and projects that other program werent keen to invest a whole lot of energy in. Butch was a master of the fluff technique.
 
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Sadly, for all of their highly-publicized troubles, their class is still ranked ahead of ours.
 
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Ten_Titans said:
Not going to pretend we have a better roster than UF or Georgia because we don't.

But it's easier to think that we will catch up if they continue losing guys while we have almost zero attrition through two recruiting classes.
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A lot of their fans worried about depth next year, especially at WR.
 
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Jaws is entitled to his opinion and as far as I know he doesn't offend any Vols that I've seen in his posts but I can assure you that a whole lot of gator fans don't share his view on this matter. NCAA going to slow that portal business down by not allowing players a waiver and I damn sure know Cox won't play this year. Fans there don't like it after having such a good season last year.
 
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I would just be concerned as to why a guy with 10 years of HC experience can’t seem to sign guys that will actually see the field.

Transfers can help out, no doubt.

But when you recruit, if you know what you’re doing, you recruit a “type” of player that you like. Not just on intangibles alone. That’s how you get a Butch Jones team with 80 guys at each other’s necks and a HC that loses control after 2-3 seasons.

I usually just give FL the benefit of the doubt. For obvious reasons lol. But, starting to kind of wonder what the issue is. Kinda weird.
 
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Jaws said:
I tend to agree, but Florida won’t need to every year. If there is a bad year where you lose a hand full in a recruiting class, go hammer down on the portal. If you lose none, you won’t need to.

And this is not just for UF, it’s for any team. The portal has changed the game, it has become important and helpful to roster-building.
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One year won't set you guys back, I agree. We have to see if it's a trend that continues though.
 
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Jaws said:
By the way, Arjei Henderson chose UF over FSU and Tennessee.

So obviously Pruitt was fine with his academics.
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Doesnt look like we were really going after him
Our thread here is fairly small and mostly seems to be arguing with you UF posters or stupid unrelated ish.

Congrats on beating the worst coach in Florida for him though
 
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Am I the only one who thinks that recruiting some players on the edge academically means maybe we are getting some better athletes? Seems to be an inverse correlation there.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Am I the only one who thinks that recruiting some players on the edge academically means maybe we are getting some better athletes? Seems to be an inverse correlation there.
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Maybe, but it's a tightrope balancing act at best. If an elite team venture out into recruitment land and grabs 2 or 3 iffy qualifiers, I could see us living with the attrition most of the time if you strikeout. But there are many other ways to take iffy recruits into the program and get hurt. Academically not qualifying gets most of the immediate attention. Guys that have a track record with personal issues is another. Personal issues can include drugs, drinking, abuse, bad attitudes, mental illness, etc. And that's recruits and transfers.

It feels like you usually do a great job of recruiting in the SEC if you have a top 10 class nationally with teams competing for titles. It's problematic if you lose at least 20% of the players in the last recruiting cycle before the first fall camp is over. At that point, doesn't it matter where that class really ranked?

Don't get me wrong, everyone can have a weird season with recruits, sooner or later, but if it's a habit top 10 classes start looking more like top 20 classes.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Maybe, but it's a tightrope balancing act at best. If an elite team venture out into recruitment land and grabs 2 or 3 iffy qualifiers, I could see us living with the attrition most of the time if you strikeout. But there are many other ways to take iffy recruits into the program and get hurt. Academically not qualifying gets most of the immediate attention. Guys that have a track record with personal issues is another. Personal issues can include drugs, drinking, abuse, bad attitudes, mental illness, etc. And that's recruits and transfers.

It feels like you usually do a great job of recruiting in the SEC if you have a top 10 class nationally with teams competing for titles. It's problematic if you lose at least 20% of the players in the last recruiting cycle before the first fall camp is over. At that point, doesn't it matter where that class really ranked?

Don't get me wrong, everyone can have a weird season with recruits, sooner or later, but if it's a habit top 10 classes start looking more like top 20 classes.
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I'm not going to lose sleep over this just yet, it's his first real class, but I get what you are saying.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'm not going to lose sleep over this just yet, it's his first real class, but I get what you are saying.
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No need to. McElwain did nothing to create elite recruiting during his tenure. Mullen is such a talker it's hard to understand why Florida players aren't flocking there once again. I don't see FSU or Miami stealing his recruiting thunder with the way things are lining up right more. His product as a head coach on gameday can't be the issue, he can coach. It's definitely a paradox to me, so far.
 
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Can’t do that year after year when you play UGA, LSU and TN every season. Recruiting is a programs life-blood. 66F4A65F-1B24-4F90-8D1D-DA5E25CDD996.png
 
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Losing highly rated incoming freshmen that can give you 3-5 years hurts, period. The transfer portal may cushion the blow, but most transfers are going to give you a year at best, most likely. Some of them will be serviceable, but a lot won’t...
 
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TUSKtimes said:
No need to. McElwain did nothing to create elite recruiting during his tenure. Mullen is such a talker it's hard to understand why Florida players aren't flocking there once again. I don't see FSU or Miami stealing his recruiting thunder with the way things are lining up right more. His product as a head coach on gameday can't be the issue, he can coach. It's definitely a paradox to me, so far.
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That's another good point as well. It's not like hes fighting the typical FSU and Miami teams for players. FSUs slip has been more recent but this shouldnt be an instate problem in the near future from a recruiting standpoint. UF is in better shape than both.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Am I the only one who thinks that recruiting some players on the edge academically means maybe we are getting some better athletes? Seems to be an inverse correlation there.
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I agree. It’s awful to say, but when we were winning national titles, we had some sketchy-ass dudes playing. Same with Miami, same with FSU, same with Ohio State for a bit, Bama went through that, Georgia is loaded with examples of sketchy dudes in recent years. Nebraska won an entire decade with a combination of rampant steroid use and various sorts of outlaws.
 
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I'm just curious how all these transfers Jaws is talking about count against their recruiting numbers. Taking transfers and kids not qualifying has to eat up space toward the 25. You don't just get to swap them out.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Am I the only one who thinks that recruiting some players on the edge academically means maybe we are getting some better athletes? Seems to be an inverse correlation there.
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It's a crap shoot at best. Three academically borderline 4*s, if two of them make it, then you are better off then going for three 3*s with no concerns. You just have more turnover on the roster and a few open schollys for the walk-ons.
 
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