Congrats to state of Tennessee for executing justice on Stephen West last night.

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Orange_Vol1321 said:
You're talking about appeals. It isn't the 50s anymore. If they find your DNA inside a victim the process should be expedited and all appeals blocked.
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So you have sex with your wife then go to work, hour after you leave she's murdered. Sorry about your bad luck Orange, they found DNA.
 
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hog88 said:
What he did was horrendous, I'm simply against the state executing people.
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I completely agree the state should not execute people.

Instead, I fully support taking the life of the condemned in the exact same manner in which the condemned took his or her victim's life. Matter of fact, I support going one step further in that should a family member of the deceased want to administer the death penalty he or she should be allowed.
 
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hog88 said:
So you have sex with your wife then go to work, hour after you leave she's murdered. Sorry about your bad luck Orange, they found DNA.
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There’s a series on Netflix called Exhibit A where they cover some “solid” forensics methods that are dodgy at best. For years NYC used sort of a predictive DNA report to incriminate people when the DNA wasn’t an exact match. And it was used against hundreds of people.
 
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And now we’ve gotten to the point in the discussion where people “virtue signal” by lusting for depraved things to happen to people they never met but perceive to be guilty of depraved things.

Self defeating virtue signaling is my favorite kind of virtue signaling.
 
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hog88 said:
So you have sex with your wife then go to work, hour after you leave she's murdered. Sorry about your bad luck Orange, they found DNA.
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Lol, you just picked the worst example ever. If you're at work you have an alibi. And again, it isn't the 50s, your cell phone would have you in a different location, your home security cameras would show someone that isn't you. It's 2019.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Lol, you just picked the worst example ever. If you're at work you have an alibi. And again, it isn't the 50s, your cell phone would have you in a different location, your home security cameras would show someone that isn't you. It's 2019.
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So you're saying that not 1 single innocent person is on death row right now or has been executed since they started using DNA?
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Lol, you just picked the worst example ever. If you're at work you have an alibi. And again, it isn't the 50s, your cell phone would have you in a different location, your home security cameras would show someone that isn't you. It's 2019.
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So you’re saying it’s not as simple as finding DNA?

Imagine that.
 
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C-south said:
Raped of freedom, embezzled of freedom, and robbed of freedom.
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Wait, so if person A goes to jail for rape and person B goes to jail for embezzlement, one is being raped and the other embezzled from? Sounds plausible.

And wouldn't the murderer sentenced to jail be "murdered" of his freedoms?
 
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evillawyer said:
Wait, so if person A goes to jail for rape and person B goes to jail for embezzlement, one is being raped and the other embezzled from? Sounds plausible.
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Wtf are you even talking about now? I was playing along with your stupid game but you took it to the next level I guess.
 
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C-south said:
Wtf are you even talking about now? I was playing along with your stupid game but you took it to the next level I guess.
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Modern punishment doesn't work on the theory of doing the same thing to the perpetrator that was done to the victim. So why do we do it for murder?
 
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evillawyer said:
Modern punishment doesn't work on the theory of doing the same thing to the perpetrator that was done to the victim. So why do we do it for murder?
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If you go to prison for embezzlement you lose your money so this happens. You go to prison for rape you're probably going to get raped. The only example of not happening is being robbed in prison although I'm sure clothes, money and cigarettes disappear all the time.

Karma takes care of all three examples.



So if you don't think someone being killed deserves the same for justice then you support everyone practicing their #2A rights and being mandated to CCW?
 
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evillawyer said:
Modern punishment doesn't work on the theory of doing the same thing to the perpetrator that was done to the victim. So why do we do it for murder?
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Because imo in most instances that is an unforgivable offense. There is no rehabilitation or deterrent for some evil and lawlessness. I don’t think I would call the death penalty is as much a deterrent as it is justice for the victim and their loved ones. A life can’t be replaced.
 
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C-south said:
Because imo in most instances that is an unforgivable offense. There is no rehabilitation or deterrent for some evil and lawlessness. I don’t think I would call the death penalty is as much a deterrent as it is justice for the victim and their loved ones. A life can’t be replaced.
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But now you're just begging the question. I'm asking why it's justice when we have few, if any, other examples of state punishment that inflicts upon the perpetrator what he inflicted upon the victim.
 
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evillawyer said:
But now you're just begging the question. I'm asking why it's justice when we have few, if any, other examples of state punishment that inflicts upon the perpetrator what he inflicted upon the victim.
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If someone robs you I doubt they have something to rob them of other than their freedom. I have no problem with capital punishment in some other instances other than murder.
 
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