Is the 2019 Version 20pts Better?

#52
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spyfish007 said:
Do you think we are talking 10 points per game or on the season?
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This is the question.

Originally, I thought you meant 10/10 points better over the whole season. Please don’t tell us that you’re looking for 10/10 points better PER GAME.
 
#53
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JohnWardForever said:
WELL Sir, that is an Exact Quote from Someone who has seen this team up close and personal on a daily basis. Phil Fulmer. I think Phil has good eyes. SMH.
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Funny how the post has no quotation marks and no designation as Fulmer as the source. Plagiarize much?

In any event, even Fulmer hasn’t seen this team play yet. We will have a much better idea after BYU, and a pretty solid one after Florida.
 
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CA_Vol said:
People are really underestimating how much we are still lacking in the OL & DL. We are likely starting two true freshmen at the OTs and just lost our best returning D-lineman for the year. Recruit. Minimize the 25 point losses. Recruit. Make a bowl. Recruit.
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Are you insinuating that our two FR OT's are not up to the task? Trey Smith finished 2nd All-SEC and freshman All American honors his first year. I am not saying we should expect the same of Morris and Wright but it is not out of the realm of possibilities. I think often times many put too much emphasis on a kids college experience vice his talent. Granted experience is a huge factor but if a kid has the right work ethic, ability to be a quick learner and the heart, the experience shouldn't matter as much. Of course, this is all barring injury. The bar isn't set high for our offense but I do expect it to be better and honestly wouldn't be surprised if they exceed most expectations. I think the O line comes into this season with a chip on their shoulder, they know they were the teams weakest unit last year. However, I have been wrong before.
 
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EZE said:
Funny how the post has no quotation marks and no designation as Fulmer as the source. Plagiarize much?

In any event, even Fulmer hasn’t seen this team play yet. We will have a much better idea after BYU, and a pretty solid one after Florida.
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EZE said:
Funny how the post has no quotation marks and no designation as Fulmer as the source. Plagiarize much?


PLAGIARIZE ?? That's so damn funny. Me thinks thou doth protest too much.
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CA_Vol said:
Fair enough, but I have to ask, what gives you the impression that our DL will be average?
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Size, talent, and purpose within the scheme. They have more guys who are bigger and stronger than last year. Last year's DL was 4-3 guys plugged into a 3-4 base scheme. In spite of the handwringing, there are some very talented guys in the group. The purpose of these guys in Pruitt's scheme isn't necessarly big numbers. They need to occupy the DL and get push. It is a simplified purpose that may be done reasonably well without 5* talent.

We are replacing the entire starting line-up, our best returning player just went out for the year, and that was one area we frankly didn’t recruit as well at?
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Yeah, losing Gooden stinks. One of the worst losses they could have. But they have size, strength, and athleticism. It can be simplified for them and still be effective in keeping the LB's clean.

I think we are a 7-5 team if we get Solomon eligible. That’s a two win improvement with a chance at a bowl win. That is where we are right now. If Pruitt gets this team to 8 wins, he should be National COTY.
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And I disagree completely. He's had a year to develop the team including a DL deeper than one guy. He also has an easier schedule than last year. A 7-5 finish would be treading water at best.
 
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Hulavol said:
8-4 ??
Good lord.
We have no beef on the lines. Love to be wrong, but. Come. On. People. 6 wins is an improvement.
7 means nobody got hurt - sure.
8? Dream on.
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8 wins means going 7-1 at home (GSU, BYU, UTC, UAB, USC, Miss St., Vandy) and beating UK on the road.
Not too far of a stretch.
 
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On paper we should be much better this year. However, we will have to see how that translates on the field. 6 wins is the floor this year.
 
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sjt18 said:
Size, talent, and purpose within the scheme. They have more guys who are bigger and stronger than last year. Last year's DL was 4-3 guys plugged into a 3-4 base scheme. In spite of the handwringing, there are some very talented guys in the group. The purpose of these guys in Pruitt's scheme isn't necessarly big numbers. They need to occupy the DL and get push. It is a simplified purpose that may be done reasonably well without 5* talent.

Yeah, losing Gooden stinks. One of the worst losses they could have. But they have size, strength, and athleticism. It can be simplified for them and still be effective in keeping the LB's clean.


And I disagree completely. He's had a year to develop the team including a DL deeper than one guy. He also has an easier schedule than last year. A 7-5 finish would be treading water at best.
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I hope you’re right.
 
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JohnWardForever said:
We shall see. If this team isn't 20 points better ; I'll kiss whatever and give you a week to advertise. If you can't see the potential; I have no words.
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Did you just tell another man that you would kiss his whatever if Tennessee isn't 20 points better?

I guess the season really is upon us.

People are getting hyped. I just hope we can beat Vandy and UofSC this year.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
The problem is that for the most part nobody beats UK and Vandy like they used to. UK beat UF, USCjr, Mizzou, Miss State, Vandy and Penn State last year. Should’ve beaten aTm. That is a helluva year. WE could do that this year, with a nice bowl win versus a name program, those games are all there for the taking.

Vandy should’ve beaten Notre Dame on the road last year, gave Mizzou and UF a game and lost by a score to UK and Baylor. Not to mention beating Ole Miss and kicking our ass.

Part of the problem with the lack of depth we have is now you can’t just roll the starters out there for a half and demolish UK and Vandy and sit everyone. Every team in the conference is a tough out other than Arkansas.
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Well said.

People are still living in the 1990's. The SEC is an entirely different animal now. Has been for about 10 years now.

UK had 6 players DRAFTED into the NFL last year. UGA is beginning to turn into the monster they always could have been.
Florida is being Florida again.
Mizzou is as tough as ever.

SEC EAST is hard again! It's caught up to the SEC WEST finally.
 
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Pruitt will have his chance to prove his value as a HC this year and acquiring Ansley to run the defense is a huge start. It's going to be all about the ability to adapt for several key defensive players and mainly the LB's. CJP is going to want to play man on man coverage to free up the LB's to do the exotic blitzes,etc. The LB's are going to have to shore up the suspect DL until they get some in game experience. Ideally there should be a lot of rotation on the DL and at LBer. I'm certain that the LB corp is on the fast-track to learn the scheme which is easier for the 2nd year players in this system and in turn this allows them to teach the newcomers at a faster pace than last year. How it ultimately pans out is anyone's guess but if not this year, 2020's defense will be one of the best in the country. 8-4 is barely within reach and it could very well come down to a lucky break or two to achieve that but I feel this team is gelling as a unit and that's been much needed for a long time on rocky top.
 
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Fayettvol said:
Yes i am, how can James franklin come in to a 2 win vandy team and the first year win 6 then the second year win 9??? We should expect nothing less.
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Because the East is just as hard the west is now. That was a whole different division back then. Much much weaker than now.

Last year Mizzou, Florida and UK were able to defeat Big 10 division winning caliber teams. Candy should have beat Notre Dame.
UGA probably should be 2 time national champs, but keep wetting the bed. They're still that good though.
 
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LittleVol said:
Because the East is just as hard the west is now. That was a whole different ck then. Much much weaker than now.

Last year Mizzou, Florida and UK were able to defeat Big 10 division winning caliber teams. Candy should have beat Notre Dame.
UGA probably should be 2 time national champs, but keep wetting the bed. They're still that good though.
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Keep making excuses for bad football and you will continue to see bad football. We looked embarrassing at times last year, 4 SEC wins should be easy for the amount of money that has been put into this program. Stop settling for mediocrity!!!
 
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sjt18 said:
UT has the makings of a very good OL even if they suffer similar injuries to last year. They've improved their personnel. The DL remains to be seen. They have the size and athletes. But none have significant experience.

You also have to look at the schedule. BYU isn't WVU. Auburn is better than MSU. UK and Vandy should be worse than last year. IMO, USCe will be about the same. In spite of the current hype, I think Lock was a much bigger part of Mizzou's success than many seem to believe. I think they'll have a drop off as well.

UGA and Bama are probably too much of a reach at this point. UF is only an outside chance. Everything else comes down to coaching, injuries, and how much the off-season development really improved them.

Six wins... would NOT be an improvement considering the schedule differences. Seven would be basically treading water.
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You don't know maths.
 
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LittleVol said:
Because the East is just as hard the west is now. That was a whole different division back then. Much much weaker than now.

Last year Mizzou, Florida and UK were able to defeat Big 10 division winning caliber teams. Candy should have beat Notre Dame.
UGA probably should be 2 time national champs, but keep wetting the bed. They're still that good though.
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OH I doubt that. Bama, A&M and LSU will be top 10 preseason. On the East, Ga is the only guarantee .
 
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JohnWardForever said:
With the S&C improvements, the Influx of VERY Talented Freshmen on both sides of the ball, DEPTH, Pruitt settling in for his second year; Chaney, Ansley, and Tee upgrading the Staff, I can see Tennessee being 10 points better on D and Offense. (Possibly more midway through the season) This team is night and day from last year. I think we are looking at 8-4; minimum.
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"I'll have what the pilots having!"- James Gregory
 
#73
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CA_Vol said:
People are really underestimating how much we are still lacking in the OL & DL. We are likely starting two true freshmen at the OTs and just lost our best returning D-lineman for the year. Recruit. Minimize the 25 point losses. Recruit. Make a bowl. Recruit.
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I agree! Last year we were getting beat in the trenches by Charlotte!! We had much better skilled payers, but just par on the lines. We are still playing catch-up both on the OL and DL. Better this year, YES..... SEC good, probably not. SEC average, maybe?
 
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sjt18 said:
You don't know logical reasoning with the application of math(s).
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Ha.
Your argument is a straw man, and thus illogical. To say we win 7 games this year shows no progress is ridiculous by any measure. Sure the schedule falls in our favor this year, but to say a 2 win improvement shows no improvement, and then accuse me of not knowing logical reasoning...
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Oh, and I have a Master's degree in Math.
 
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