Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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chargervol said:
I'm still thinking about Pruitt and this strategy of telling recruits to just stand back and watch. All in and not much in the way of backup.
That's a fairly ballsy strategy. We're taking this curve wide open with no airbags and I've done jumped in for the ride.

Fail, and we're limping away from this one. Succeed and it becomes part of TN legend. Not sure how this ends but damn if it isn't kinda fun.
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It certainly is very interesting. Even more interesting is that we know he knows what a great team looks like physically and mentally, since he’s been a part of numerous ones. It’s one of multiple reasons that I have started getting extremely giddy for the season. Planning on getting back to Neyland for a game this year for the first time since 2015. @Sugaray13, we need to get those MSU tickets and make our plans.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
It certainly is very interesting. Even more interesting is that we know he knows what a great team looks like physically and mentally, since he’s been a part of numerous ones. It’s one of multiple reasons that I have started getting extremely giddy for the season. Planning on getting back to Neyland for a game this year for the first time since 2015. @Sugaray13, we need to get those MSU tickets and make our plans.
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"Extremely giddy"?..

I think it will be a better team, and I am cautiously optimistic...no amount of training camp babble and hype is going to change that. I am looking forward to seeing a better, and more fundamentally sound football team...

But..


I am clinging to hope that the "Quit" has been beaten out of the team, and scourged out of the program. I know that once that rot sets into a programs bones, that it is like Mersa...no quick cure.


"Cautiously optimistic"..That's my take.

7-5 is my joint..but..IF....the Murphys law that has ruled the program for over a decade were to somehow work in reverse for a change I can see 9-3 happening.

IF..that were to happen along with a bowl win against a quality opponent, and have a surprise 10 win season..I think recruiting going forward will go much better and the Tennessee Volunteers will regain their rightful place among the elite of college football..."IF"
 
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Caught up on The Audible podcast with Mandela and Feldman. They had David Ubben on to talk Tennessee. Brutal. Came away really panning the team and concluding Tennessee as a program seems to have faded into the history books. Not much optimism from that listen...
 
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vol2002 said:
Caught up on The Audible podcast with Mandela and Feldman. They had David Ubben on to talk Tennessee. Brutal. Came away really panning the team and concluding Tennessee as a program seems to have faded into the history books. Not much optimism from that listen...
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Maybe the Ubben worship on here will fade a little. It's one thing to be honest about the difficulties, but to just dump on the program without listing the positives that UT still has is not honesty.
 
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Ubben’s job is to create followers. Just like most of the media today, not much reporting and a whole lot of stirring the pot.
9 out of 10 of these reports know nothing about football. So they can’t report on the Xs and Os, instead they have to make predictions and analyze personalities to get readers. Most of them have little or no knowledge of the game itself.
 
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Ace said:
Ubben’s job is to create followers. Just like most of the media today, not much reporting and a whole lot of stirring the pot.
9 out of 10 of these reports know nothing about football. So they can’t report on the Xs and Os, instead they have to make predictions and analyze personalities to get readers. Most of them have little or no knowledge of the game itself.
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Jon Adams Jr.? Never heard of her.
 
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vol2002 said:
Caught up on The Audible podcast with Mandela and Feldman. They had David Ubben on to talk Tennessee. Brutal. Came away really panning the team and concluding Tennessee as a program seems to have faded into the history books. Not much optimism from that listen...
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Maybe they thought opposing coaches didn't have enough ammo on the recruiting trail.

It's a silly take, it always goes in cycles. There's no such thing as a major program being out of it permanently.
They better get it all out now. If Pruitt can keep his word, then none of the bs being spouted is going to make a damn difference.
 
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vol2002 said:
Caught up on The Audible podcast with Mandela and Feldman. They had David Ubben on to talk Tennessee. Brutal. Came away really panning the team and concluding Tennessee as a program seems to have faded into the history books. Not much optimism from that listen...
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Hardly got that same vibe. And they only spoke on TN a couple minutes.

Point 1 of his was, sure the FPI is probably overranking us because it's weighting our returning starters too much due to underdevelopment under CBJ (Ubben also discounts this factor because he actually thinks a fair amount of said returners will get jumped by young guys at some point...).

Point 2 was simply the host asking if we would fade like Nebraska and become a relic. Ubben said nothing to support that, the host just threw it out there and nothing was really said on it. There was no conclusion by anyone, even to a small degree. Personally, I think that's lazy reasoning from an outsider. We are no further from big time talent than Clemson or Bama are. Neither are in monster recruiting states. But neither has went through back to back to back dumpster fire coaches (recently). We are nowhere near being in a midwest cornfield.

He also talked about what a good season was and said certainly a bowl is needed, beyond that it's about being competitive. Said we were not competitive in half our games last year.
 
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vol2002 said:
Caught up on The Audible podcast with Mandela and Feldman. They had David Ubben on to talk Tennessee. Brutal. Came away really panning the team and concluding Tennessee as a program seems to have faded into the history books. Not much optimism from that listen...
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Hardly got that same vibe. And they only spoke on TN a couple minutes.

Point 1 of his was, sure the FPI is probably overranking us because it's weighting our returning starters too much due to underdevelopment (Ubben also discounts this factor because he actually thinks a fair amount of said returners will get jumped by young guys at some point...).

Point 2 was simply the host asking if we would fade like Nebraska and become a relic. Ubben said nothing to support that, the host just threw it out there and nothing was really said on it. There was no conclusion by anyone, even to a small degree. Personally, I think that's lazy reasoning from an outsider. We are no further from big time talent than Clemson or Bama are. Neither are in monster recruiting states. But neither has went through back to back to back dumpster fire coaches (recently). We are nowhere near being in a midwest cornfield.

He also talked about what a good season was and said certainly a bowl is needed, beyond that it's about being competitive. Said we were not competitive in half our games last year.
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All right, I need to know which of these actually happened so that I know what I'm ranting uselessly on a message board about.
 
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chargervol said:
All right, I need to know which of these actually happened so that I know what I'm ranting uselessly on a message board about.
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Probably part perception from each of us, but here's the podcast:



UT talk starts at 19:00, lasts 6 minutes.

And fwiw Ubben sounds like a less high pitched David Cross, aka Tobias Funke.
 
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Devo182 said:
Hardly got that same vibe. And they only spoke on TN a couple minutes.

Point 1 of his was, sure the FPI is probably overranking us because it's weighting our returning starters too much due to underdevelopment under CBJ (Ubben also discounts this factor because he actually thinks a fair amount of said returners will get jumped by young guys at some point...).

Point 2 was simply the host asking if we would fade like Nebraska and become a relic. Ubben said nothing to support that, the host just threw it out there and nothing was really said on it. There was no conclusion by anyone, even to a small degree. Personally, I think that's lazy reasoning from an outsider. We are no further from big time talent than Clemson or Bama are. Neither are in monster recruiting states. But neither has went through back to back to back dumpster fire coaches (recently). We are nowhere near being in a midwest cornfield.

He also talked about what a good season was and said certainly a bowl is needed, beyond that it's about being competitive. Said we were not competitive in half our games last year.
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Given that the biggest gain for most players comes between their freshman and sophomore years, and this is their sophomore year under Pruitt, I expect to see a lot of previously underdeveloped guys playing closer to their potential. If we just played to the level of our recruiting ranking, we’d be favored in 8 or 9 games. If we win 8 or 9 games, recruiting will be no problem at all.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Maybe the Ubben worship on here will fade a little. It's one thing to be honest about the difficulties, but to just dump on the program without listing the positives that UT still has is not honesty.
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Hmmm... he’s done the opposite in his writing on the athletic saying it’s just a matter of time before we’re back. All we need is an elite coach he says, we have everything else. Pruitt might be we don’t know yet
 
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