Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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Saying the nba is lacking fundamentals is asinine. The talent gap between college and pro basketball is the Grand Canyon. Bigger than any sport imo outside of maybe golf. There’s so many awesome college basketball players that never even sniff a nba court.

Talent gap is one thing, but the games are just different. College basketball is a purer form of the game regardless of talent. Sure, more shots are missed, etc. in the college game. But the NBA game allows for things that are standard violations in basketball. It's still entertaining, but it's not the basketball that I played.
 
Not even going to step into the underlying conversation but...

If all you see when you watch baseball is guys standing around waiting for someone to throw or hit the ball, I would imagine it really is very boring. But if you're watching individual pitches and swings, thinking about the pitcher's and batter's approaches on any given at-bat (even contextually from at-bat to at-bat), and how the fielders are positioning themselves for each batter, how the batter is responding to that, how the baserunners are working the pitcher and catcher, minding the pitcher's command and pitch movement, the pitch count, who's available in relief, how that plays into the batting order or if a double-switch is necessary and if so, who for who (okay, that last one only applies in the NL since the AL dumbed things down with the DH to please the masses). There's also the context of recent performance trends as they play into each at-bat, or even the lineup, as well as head-to-head trends, personal histories (between players and/or teams), injuries, etc. I'll stop there but that's just part of what going on in the times between when the ball is in play. If you're really into the sport, there's a shitload of drama happening a lot of the time.

tl/dr: It's only boring if you don't know or don't care what's going on beyond the action. Pretty much like most sports.

Last night I gave up a chunk of my nightly Dodgers game to watch a movie with my kid. When it was over I switched back to the game and the Dodgers were down 4-3 with two outs and nobody on in the bottom of the 9th, and an 0-2 count. One strike away from a loss. The Dodgers ended up getting a walkoff win without ever putting a ball in play. Five straight walks. And it was so freakin intense the whole time. I was jumping up and down and high-fiving my daughter at the end. And we didn't see a single ball put into play. Boring, my ass.
I hadn't caught the highlights yet, but saw that they won on a walk-off walk. That's pretty amazing how it happened.
 
Talent gap is one thing, but the games are just different. College basketball is a purer form of the game regardless of talent. Sure, more shots are missed, etc. in the college game. But the NBA game allows for things that are standard violations in basketball. It's still entertaining, but it's not the basketball that I played.
Agreed. NBA marketing is all about the star players. They're just hoping for another Jordan that will bring back white middle America. The whole game is about showcasing superstars and not team competition.
 
Talent gap is one thing, but the games are just different. College basketball is a purer form of the game regardless of talent. Sure, more shots are missed, etc. in the college game. But the NBA game allows for things that are standard violations in basketball. It's still entertaining, but it's not the basketball that I played.

Yea i don’t see that at all. Basic fundamentals being shooting, free throws, ball handling, passing etc. NBA is on a whole different level.

Do carries and walks get stretched sometimes? Of course but it’s bc the players doing it are so fluid and can pull it off.

Other than maybe the occasionally Cinderella story (even tho ratings disagree) i can’t think of a single aspect of college b-ball that is better than NBA.
 
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