Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I'm amazed at how many people have a gun manufacturer decal or a 'this car protected by s&w' sticker on their vehicles. It may scare some thieves but invites others.
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I usually just consider them rednecks and move on.

Having travelled to affluent areas of the Country one notices that that POS beater cars dont exist...is there a correlation to amount of 'aint skeered/Gun/marijuana/Calvin pissing/and or cursive initial' stickers to identify an individual to a particular material possession? Seems to me to be.

We're in Appalachia. Either take it for what it is and accept it, or, let it eat at you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Would have been real interesting to see what Gary Patterson would have done here the last ten years. He has never pulled in highly rated recruiting classes, but has found guys to fit his system and develop them. They've even gotten some highly ranked players in there recently that didn't pan out as well as the 2 & 3 stars. It is really hard to understate just what an awful program TCU was before he got there. They were a national powerhouse back in the 30's with guys like Slingin' Sammy Baugh and Davey O'Brien, and then were a consistent mediocrity for about 70 years, with the two points of light being Bob Lilly in the 60's and Ladanian Tomlinson at the end of the 90's. Since he took over, they've had a .726 winning percentage and he has carried them out of the G5 into the Power 5. They've had more 10 win seasons under him than they did in the school's history before him getting there, and he's won 13 bowl games against 4 wins in program history before him.

2008 was definitely the best chance to get him, because I don't think he's ever leaving Fort Worth (even after he's done coaching). Smaller stage, to be sure, but he has Saban levels of clout on that campus right now.
 
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Dudley Smith said:
Would have been real interesting to see what Gary Patterson would have done here the last ten years. He has never pulled in highly rated recruiting classes, but has found guys to fit his system and develop them. They've even gotten some highly ranked players in there recently that didn't pan out as well as the 2 & 3 stars. It is really hard to understate just what an awful program TCU was before he got there. They were a national powerhouse back in the 30's with guys like Slingin' Sammy Baugh and Davey O'Brien, and then were a consistent mediocrity for about 70 years, with the two points of light being Bob Lilly in the 60's and Ladanian Tomlinson at the end of the 90's. Since he took over, they've had a .726 winning percentage and he has carried them out of the G5 into the Power 5. They've had more 10 win seasons under him than they did in the school's history before him getting there, and he's won 13 bowl games against 4 wins in program history before him.

2008 was definitely the best chance to get him, because I don't think he's ever leaving Fort Worth (even after he's done coaching). Smaller stage, to be sure, but he has Saban levels of clout on that campus right now.
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Dennis Franchione had already started the resurgence before bolting for Bama...then eventually A&M where he went the other way. I’d credit him with getting the ball rolling and Patterson for what he built off of it.
 
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Dudley Smith said:
Would have been real interesting to see what Gary Patterson would have done here the last ten years. He has never pulled in highly rated recruiting classes, but has found guys to fit his system and develop them. They've even gotten some highly ranked players in there recently that didn't pan out as well as the 2 & 3 stars. It is really hard to understate just what an awful program TCU was before he got there. They were a national powerhouse back in the 30's with guys like Slingin' Sammy Baugh and Davey O'Brien, and then were a consistent mediocrity for about 70 years, with the two points of light being Bob Lilly in the 60's and Ladanian Tomlinson at the end of the 90's. Since he took over, they've had a .726 winning percentage and he has carried them out of the G5 into the Power 5. They've had more 10 win seasons under him than they did in the school's history before him getting there, and he's won 13 bowl games against 4 wins in program history before him.

2008 was definitely the best chance to get him, because I don't think he's ever leaving Fort Worth (even after he's done coaching). Smaller stage, to be sure, but he has Saban levels of clout on that campus right now.
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If he comes here we become the power in the SEC east. Patterson probably would’ve won a national championship too. Trevor Lawrence would’ve come here, Tee Higgins, Cade Mays, etc.
 
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scvolfan7 said:
If he comes here we become the power in the SEC east. Patterson probably would’ve won a national championship too. Trevor Lawrence would’ve come here, Tee Higgins, Cade Mays, etc.
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That involves recruiting...I don’t see it.
 
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Patterson, Briles and Leach definitely made the Big 12 interesting. If I were going to emulate one of their offenses in the SEC, I would have to look to Briles' because he had the most success against Oklahoma which has probably been the closest thing to an SEC defense in the Big 12 for a good while.
 
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butchna said:
Dennis Franchione had already started the resurgence before bolting for Bama...then eventually A&M where he went the other way. I’d credit him with getting the ball rolling and Patterson for what he built off of it.
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You are correct, Franchione was there at the beginning of the resurgence, but he also had one of the best RB's ever to play the game going against WAC defenses, and Patterson coaching his defense for him. The way Patterson has sustained that program's growth over 18 years and 3 different conferences, bringing them into the big time, has been nothing short of remarkable.
 
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butchna said:
That involves recruiting...I don’t see it.
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I think there is some truth to this as well. I don't think you can just make a straight line extrapolation for what Patterson has done on a smaller stage and say it would be exponentially greater if he was dropped into a blue blood program in the SEC. He'd have to recruit at a much higher level than he has ever shown he can do, and I agree that's not where his strengths are. The closest analogy I can see in recent history is Gary Pinkel at Mizzou. They certainly never recruited in the top half of the SEC but he won a couple of SEC East titles. Or maybe something like Spurrier's days at South Carolina. Either would have been vastly preferable to the last 10 years in Knoxville
 
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