REALISTICALLY: who would be your choice to replace Fulmer?

#52
#52
BigPapaVol said:
wanna reel off Carroll's NFL record.while Carroll had dramatically better teams than Oakland did under Kiffin.
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OH....so Kiffin is associated with Pete Carroll, and that qualifies him?

Hell, let's just offer the job to Pete Carroll's wife. You can't get much closer in association.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
I'm willing to go with untested before we take someone else's castoffs.

Butch Davis - 58–29 .667%

WOW! What was I thinking? Obviously the next Neyland right there.
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please think before posting records without some qualifying commentary. Davis took two separate rebuilding gigs in amassing that record.

Coker has a better record. Want him?
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#57
#57
BTW, we are aren't NCAA bulletproof like USC.

When one of Carroll's associates pulls a "Reggie Bush" pay for play stunt.

We will get hammered. NO THANKS!
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
OH....so Kiffin is associated with Pete Carroll, and that qualifies him?

Hell, let's just offer the job to Pete Carroll's wife. You can't get much closer in association.
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where di you get this absurd linkage?
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#59
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BigPapaVol said:
please think before posting records without some qualifying commentary. Davis took two separate rebuilding gigs in amassing that record.

Coker has a better record. Want him?
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I don't want anyone's "hired gun", or their castoff.

I want someone true to the program.
 
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SavageOrangeJug said:
No one was born a HC. Yes, I'm serious.

Fulmer was never a HC until UT named him. He was the OC under Johnny Majors....what exactly does that say about his previous experience....NOT MUCH!
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He coordinated the production of a unit in BCS level, big time, college football. That's what it says, big daddy.

You want a Linebacker Coach from Appy State.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
where di you get this absurd linkage?
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From these absurd linkages.

BigPapaVol said:
wanna reel off Carroll's NFL record.while Carroll had dramatically better teams than Oakland did under Kiffin.
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EnormousCitrus1 said:
The Carroll record has merit. From what I understand, most NFL people not named Al Davis had a great respect for what Kiffin was getting done in Oakland before he got ousted.

Oakland was flat terrible and a 5-15 record there would be like taking a 1 win team in college and flipping it to six or seven wins very, very quickly.
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#63
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SavageOrangeJug said:
I don't want anyone's "hired gun", or their castoff.

I want someone true to the program.
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the main somment of Fulmer supporters is the loyalty stupidity. Congrats, you've got it.

In my world, loyalty of that nature is code for nobody else would even consider hiring him.
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#64
You're a recruit and Butch Davis, Lane Kiffin, Bronco Medenhall, or Will Muschamp walks in a breaks down their success in college football.

or....

You have Dale Jones walk in and say. I intercepted a swing play vs. Alabama, and by god I'm all Vol! My last stop on my resume was a Div. 1, AA Linebacker coach.

Seriously, these recruits don't care about UT and if the coach is an old time player.
 
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Business said:
He coordinated the production of a unit in BCS level, big time, college football. That's what it says, big daddy.

You want a Linebacker Coach from Appy State.
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Yep! I sat in the stands and watched that unit run draw play up the 19 straight times on 1st. After every kickoff, punt, or earned 1st down.

The crowd was livid. Almost as livid as I was the day Fulmer was named HC.

Fulmer made me eat my words in 1998. (Thank God).
 
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Business said:
You're a recruit and Butch Davis, Lane Kiffin, Bronco Medenhall, or Will Muschamp walks in a breaks down their success in college football.

or....

You have Dale Jones walk in and say. I intercepted a swing play vs. Alabama, and by god I'm all Vol! My last stop on my resume was a Div. 1, AA Linebacker coach.

Seriously, these recruits don't care about UT and if the coach is an old time player.
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Aaaand, boom goes the dynamite.
 
#68
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volfanbill said:
There is very litte about this post that is accurate.

We'll start with Leavitt. The Big East is dreadful and i mean Awful dreadful. USF beat Auburn and WVU, big deal. They also lost to Rutgers, Uconn, Cincy and then got absolutely obliterated by Oregon that was missing Dennis Dixon. I don't want anybody that can't beat a Dave Wannstedt team.

Now let's move to Skippy. Just because ECU has gotten marginally better, doesn't mean he's the answer. VT is only as good as Tyrod Taylor can make them. Having him "redshirted" for the game and starting Glennon spelled more doom for VT than anything ECU did. Losses to NC St and Houston have shown was ECU really is all about.

And finally let's move to South Carolina and Spurrier. The fans in SC are absolutely crazy. The state itself has a lot of in state talent, far more than Tennessee. Spurrier is more concerned with getting his golf game back at or below scratch level than he is about traveling the country trying to bring in the best recruits possible. Steve Spurrier would have been the answer 8 years ago. He's not the answer now.
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again, when you start talking about USF and ECU losing to dreadful teams, you neglect to factor in they are pretty low quality players on the field. if you give either one of those coaches some talent, they would be able to win. they've done fairly well with what little they have. that in itself is pretty impressive. but i guess beating top 25 teams with no talent doesn't mean that much to you... and i'm glad you skated over the fact that spurrier would be able to recruit here if he did come. i wasn't saying he is the final answer, but in comparison to what you posted, and what some of these other guys are talking about, he is undeniably top 3, if not 2. why would all of these talented athletes you talk about from SC want to go to USC when they have a dismal program?
 
#70
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SavageOrangeJug said:
Yep! I sat in the stands and watched that unit run draw play up the 19 straight times on 1st. After every kickoff, punt, or earned 1st down.

The crowd was livid. Almost as livid as I was the day Fulmer was named HC.

Fulmer made me eat my words in 1998. (Thank God).
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I've seen some absurd choices for Head Coach at Tennessee, but your suggestion of Dale Jones, with out any doubt in my mind, takes the big ole cake.
 
#71
#71
At the end of the day, I don't care what the guy's name is.

I want a guy that will...

Make the opponent more afraid of us than we are of them.

Be aggressive and take it to them versus playing like cowards and hoping that they don't burn us.

Take chances.

Fake a punt once in a while.

See a momentum swing chance, and, by God, don't play the percentages seize that momentum and win the damn football game.

Blitz the hell out of somebody and make them wish that they don't ever see the color orange again in their life.

I'm just sick and tired of playing field position, playing the running game, playing the percentages. Yes, obviously, those things have their place in football but so does balls, momentum, choking off the life of the opponent, pysching them out, a homefield advantage for once, rousing a fanbase that is ACHING for a dynamic winner...

I could go on and on and on.
 
#72
#72
pantone151 said:
again, when you start talking about USF and ECU losing to dreadful teams, you neglect to factor in they are pretty low quality players on the field. if you give either one of those coaches some talent, they would be able to win. they've done fairly well with what little they have. that in itself is pretty impressive. but i guess beating top 25 teams with no talent doesn't mean that much to you... and i'm glad you skated over the fact that spurrier would be able to recruit here if he did come. i wasn't saying he is the final answer, but in comparison to what you posted, and what some of these other guys are talking about, he is undeniably top 3, if not 2. why would all of these talented athletes you talk about from SC want to go to USC when they have a dismal program?
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no, no and no. Holtzy and Leavitt have talent comparable to the rest of their conference and when they play the better teams in said conference, they typically lose. I'm not skating over anything. You said win consistently, that's something neither Holtz nor Leavitt have done. They are not the answer.

And you're completely wrong about Spurrier. Spurrier's time is done. The difference betweeen S Carolina's and Tennessee's prestige is negated by having A. Spurrier already there and B. the amount of talent just within the state. Spurrier can't beat out Tuberville for the instate talent down there, what makes you think he can beat out Saban, Carroll, Tressel, Stoops, Miles, Richt, Meyer and anyone else for recruits on a national stage at UT?
 
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Business said:
I've seen some absurd choices for Head Coach at Tennessee, but your suggestion of Dale Jones, with out any doubt in my mind, takes the big ole cake.
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I find the idea of short term solution coaches just as crazy.

The Kiffin, Davis, etc. They are only going to hang around until the BBD (bigger, better deal) comes along.
 
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