2020 Presidential Race

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Tennesseefan2019 said:
Senile Joe already has the Democratic Nomination locked up just like Hillary did in 2015. Because of Democratic Party Super Delegates the whole process to choose the Democratic Nominee for President is highly fixed!
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Doesn't matter, about all of them are kicking Trump's ass.. So much so that he denies his campaigns polling even exists.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
He is the pragmatic choice... although, some of the margin just comes from name recognition and will naturally dissipate after the debates begin.
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I agree. It's either Biden or one of the left wing nutcases. Biden can theoretically appeal to the middle. What I'd love to see ... and you would hate, is for one or more of those who get screwed over in the "democratic" nomination process go third party.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Doesn't matter, about all of them are kicking Trump's ass.. So much so that he denies his campaigns polling even exists.
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President Trump will win reelection and Republicans will regain control of Congress by getting the majority in the US House of Representatives. The insane communistic Democrats will lose once again! Polling is wrong and fixed or have you conveniently forgotten 2015 and 2016?
 
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Tennesseefan2019 said:
President Trump will win reelection and Republicans will regain control of Congress by getting the majority in the US House of Representatives. The insane communistic Democrats will lose once again! Polling is wrong and fixed or have you conveniently forgotten 2015 and 2016?
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Do you realize that Republicans would have to gain at least 18 House seats for that to happen? And do you also realize how rare it is for the party in power to gain seats in the House at all? Democrats have a better chance of gaining at least 4 Senate seats and taking control of it back, then Republicans have of regaining control of the House in 2020.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Do you realize that Republicans would have to gain at least 18 House seats for that to happen? And do also realize how rare it is for the party in power to gain seats in the House at all? Democrats have a better chance of gaining at least 4 Senate seats and taking control of it back, then Republicans have of regaining control of the House in 2020.
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Everyone has their opinion and I think I know your opinion:rolleyes:
 
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#4,983
Tennesseefan2019 said:
Everyone has their opinion and I think I know your opinion:rolleyes:
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As far as Congress is concerned, the most probable outcome is that Democrats increase their margin in the House, while the Senate stays about the same... Dems will lose some (Jones in Alabama, for sure) but so will Republicans (Gardner in Colorado is toast and he knows it).
 
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Stew Cook said:
Doesn't matter, about all of them are kicking Trump's ass.. So much so that he denies his campaigns polling even exists.
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Maybe. Maybe not. As they say, never count your chickens before they hatch. 2016 should still be fresh enough to show the truth in that statement.

Still waiting on a candidate I could support. If it comes down to Trump/Biden, it's almost like 2016 all over, with no good choice to be made. I'll admit, IMO, Biden is light years better than Hillary, but still not an ideal choice. Defend it if you want, but those pics are creepy. And no, I'm not forgetting Trump is an obnoxious prick, I just don't see either one as an actual good choice.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Do you realize that Republicans would have to gain at least 18 House seats for that to happen? And do you also realize how rare it is for the party in power to gain seats in the House at all? Democrats have a better chance of gaining at least 4 Senate seats and taking control of it back, then Republicans have of regaining control of the House in 2020.
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A lot depends on how many people from each party decide to retire prior to the next election. Republicans had a lot of retirements and lost the incumbent edge in many races; I think that skewed the results a lot more than anyone ever discussed.
 
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Weezer said:
Maybe. Maybe not. As they say, never count your chickens before they hatch. 2016 should still be fresh enough to show the truth in that statement.

Still waiting on a candidate I could support. If it comes down to Trump/Biden, it's almost like 2016 all over, with no good choice to be made. I'll admit, IMO, Biden is light years better than Hillary, but still not an ideal choice. Defend it if you want, but those pics are creepy. And no, I'm not forgetting Trump is an obnoxious prick, I just don't see either one as an actual good choice.
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I saw the Trump presidency coming.. I thought maybe he wasn't going to be that bad, and maybe on a grand scale he hasn't been. But my gut says that character matters more than rhetoric, this time anyway. The new has wore off for most people I believe, and we are left looking at Donald Trump. Biden looks like an inevitably. I could be wrong.. that's just how I see it.
 
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Stew Cook said:
I saw the Trump presidency coming.. I thought maybe he wasn't going to be that bad, and maybe on a grand scale he hasn't been. But my gut says that character matters more than rhetoric, this time anyway. The new has wore off for most people I believe, and we are left looking at Donald Trump. Biden looks like an inevitably. I could be wrong.. that's just how I see it.
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I don't see it that cut and dried at all. A lot of people definitely don't like Trump, but will admit (sometimes grudgingly) that he's made some very positive changes. I can't see why anybody would prefer to give that up and go back to the SOS. We'll see, but Trump's record would likely have been far better without Dims hounding and harassing him all the way; yours has absolutely become the obstructionist party, and I promise there are a lot of people who won't forget.
 
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Stew Cook said:
I saw the Trump presidency coming.. I thought maybe he wasn't going to be that bad, and maybe on a grand scale he hasn't been. But my gut says that character matters more than rhetoric, this time anyway. The new has wore off for most people I believe, and we are left looking at Donald Trump. Biden looks like an inevitably. I could be wrong.. that's just how I see it.
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If character matters, no one who's spent a lifetime in politics would get elected President. Politicians make a living by making promises they know they'll never fulfill. What's that called again? Oh yeah, lying.
 
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AM64 said:
I don't see it that cut and dried at all. A lot of people definitely don't like Trump, but will admit (sometimes grudgingly) that he's made some very positive changes. I can't see why anybody would prefer to give that up and go back to the SOS. We'll see, but Trump's record would likely have been far better without Dims hounding and harassing him all the way; yours has absolutely become the obstructionist party, and I promise there are a lot of people who won't forget.
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To say the "obstructionist party" as if one party is more guilty than the other, seems a bit absurd. But it comes down, again to a matter of perspective. I won't argue that I have my finger on the pulse of America.. only that I imagine I do.
 
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Weezer said:
If character matters, no one who's spent a lifetime in politics would get elected President. Politicians make a living by making promises they know they'll never fulfill. What's that called again? Oh yeah, lying.
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He who lies best gets to lie in the White House
 
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Weezer said:
So then you admit it's not about character.
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Seriously? It's alot about character, but if I were only making a choice on character, you know it wouldn't be DJ Trump. This election, IMO, will be decided on perceived character over policies or economics, merely because Trump's is so obviously horrible.
 
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AM64 said:
A lot depends on how many people from each party decide to retire prior to the next election. Republicans had a lot of retirements and lost the incumbent edge in many races; I think that skewed the results a lot more than anyone ever discussed.
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That is just a really lame excuse for losing. Many of those who retired did so because they were like Paul Ryan, Trey Gowdy and Jason Chaffetz and they knew that Democrats were going to take back control of the House of Representatives and they didn't want to go back to being in the minority again... but what you didn't mention is, Republicans kept control of those seats, anyway. Darrell Issa was one of the few examples I can think of where a Republican retired and then they lost his seat... but more than likely, Issa would have also lost to Mike Levin as well - that is just the way that California has been trending. There will come a time in the near future when the Republican party from California, will have zero representation in Congress, so you better enjoy the likes of Kevin McCarthy and Devin Nunes while you still can... they are going the way of the dinosaur.

It was a mid-term election year for the party in the White House... that always means big trouble. The results were typical.
 
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DC_Vol said:
I put him in the same category as Hillary: his best strategy is to talk as little as possible.
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His best strategy is to just ignore the Democratic Primary field of candidates and go on a very aggressive attack against Trump. He should put Trump's contempt for the rule of law at the forefront of those attacks with emphasis on the fact that Kellyanne Conway is still employed in the White House, even though the Office of Special Counsel, a Trump appointee, just recommended that she be fired.

Basically, Trump doesn't see the need to obey laws that he disagrees with. There is plenty you can do with that if you are Joe Biden.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
His best strategy is to just ignore the Democratic Primary field of candidates and go on a very aggressive attack against Trump. He should put Trump's contempt for the rule of law at the forefront of those attacks with emphasis on the fact that Kellyanne Conway is still employed in the White House, even though the Office of Special Counsel, a Trump appointee, just recommended that she be fired.

Basically, Trump doesn't see the need to obey laws that he disagrees with. There is plenty you can do with that if you are Joe Biden.
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Your post sounds more like a BB rant than a cogent strategy for Lunchbucket Joe.

Regardless, Biden is a gaffe machine and says some really dumb stuff. The quieter he remains, the more likely he’ll win on name recognition alone.

Put an open mike in front of him and give him 10 minutes...he’ll say something really dumb. And maybe racist.
 
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DC_Vol said:
Your post sounds more like a BB rant than a cogent strategy for Lunchbucket Joe.

Regardless, Biden is a gaffe machine and says some really dumb stuff. The quieter he remains, the more likely he’ll win on name recognition alone.

Put an open mike in front of him and give him 10 minutes...he’ll say something really dumb. And maybe racist.
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Then that will make two gaffe machines who say really dumb stuff in the general election (Prince Charles is "The Prince of Whales" per the Trump twitter feed from yesterday.) Yay!
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
His best strategy is to just ignore the Democratic Primary field of candidates and go on a very aggressive attack against Trump. He should put Trump's contempt for the rule of law at the forefront of those attacks with emphasis on the fact that Kellyanne Conway is still employed in the White House, even though the Office of Special Counsel, a Trump appointee, just recommended that she be fired.

Basically, Trump doesn't see the need to obey laws that he disagrees with. There is plenty you can do with that if you are Joe Biden.
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I agree again. If I were head of the DNC, that's exactly the way I'd have Biden play it (privately, of course). Unless he screws up big time - a distinct possibility, Biden is the candidate with or without the primaries. Your big problem is trying to keep one or more in the clown car from getting PO'd running as an independent ... or the New Left Party.
 
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AM64 said:
I agree again. If I were head of the DNC, that's exactly the way I'd have Biden play it (privately, of course). Unless he screws up big time - a distinct possibility, Biden is the candidate with or without the primaries. Your big problem is trying to keep one or more in the clown car from getting PO'd running as an independent ... or the New Left Party.
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Yes, no question that Bernie was a problem in '16. He stayed in the race way too long and then didn't endorse Clinton until the convention. He could throw a wrench into things again... although, I think his following has dwindled slightly over the last four years.
 
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