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Crazy Ivan said:
The way GRRM explained it, although Bran can get clear pictures of the past, he can't just see everything all the time, which was why he was unaware of who Jon Snow actually was until Sam told him what he had read at the Citadel about Rhaegar and Lyanna Stark. Once he was given specifics on a past event, then he could apparently pull up the images. His ability to see into the future was apparently somewhat similar to a priest or priestess of the Lord of Light trying to read the flames. Rather murky, and you had to interpret as best you could based on what you thought you were seeing. It was apparently a good deal harder to see clear pictures of the future than it was to pull up images of the past. In one scene in S7 after Bran had returned to Winterfell as the 3-eyed Raven, Sam walked into the room and Bran gave him a bit of information about something that was soon to happen, and Sam asked if Bran was able to see that event in the future, Bran instead held up the message he had read that had been delivered by raven. So he didn't 'see' that event in the future, but rather found about it the way anyone else would have. And as Bran also said in S7, he stays in the past a lot, so it seems it is far easier for him to visit the past than to get clear visions of the future.

While I agree with you that what the writers gave us in the last scene between the lords of Westeros appeared to be a chance to break the wheel, although I don't know if that rule was 'divine right', as that suggests a king is placed on the throne by God; theTargareyns ruled by the grace of dragons, not God. But that type of change, which was not just shaking off over 300 years of rule from the Iron Throne, but also breaking away from thousands of years of rivalries between not just the great houses, but lots of lesser houses who were not represented at that final meeting, was not going to be resolved by placing a young cripple on the throne that most of Westeros knows little to nothing about. And history has shown us that in times of major upheaval,you need someone who is strong and who commands respect, and even a bit of fear, to hold a country, or six kingdoms together. I just think it was naive to expect all of these kingdoms to just accept 'a good storyteller' as their new king. In reality, he would have been tested almost immediately to see if he could hold the kingdoms together. The reality is, Jon Snow would have been a far better choice, and the fact that those lords didn't push harder for that, and just meekly allowed him to be sent to the Wall sort of goes against what we know about their characters. Expecting a sudden utopian ending in a world that has spent the last 8000 years at war is just a bit much to expect. As UEM pointed out, the Pax Romana in the violent classical world only worked when that world feared the power of the Roman legions. Expecting the violent world of Westeros to put don their arms for a cripple is just stretching the limits of credibility, IMO.
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chargervol said:
Obviously so was Jack Burton.
Hope starting all this with his "rumor" before jetting to watch, at least entertained him for a while
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Sucking at recruiting isn’t very entertaining. I was just sharing what’s out there.

We need something to ignite this thing for us. The pumpers say the spark is coming and the negavols say it’s not here yet. We’re both right.
 
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Jack Burton said:
Sucking at recruiting isn’t very entertaining. I was just sharing what’s out there.

We need something to ignite this thing for us. The pumpers say the spark is coming and the negavols say it’s not here yet. We’re both right.
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I don't even say a great class is coming, only that it will be determined by the season.
Some "negavols" have agreed.
Then proceed to question why it hasn't happened 3 months before the season starts.
It's in part, fascinating.
 
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chargervol said:
I don't even say a great class is coming, only that it will be determined by the season.
Some "negavols" have agreed.
Then proceed to question why it hasn't happened 3 months before the season starts.
It's in part, fascinating.
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If you are not posting negative comments about our team or our recruiting in every thread then you are a pumper and are attacking realists with yer wait and see, patient posts. Didn't yer mama teach you the ol' saying, "if you don't have anything negative to say then don't say anything at all." I apologize to anyone who took offense to charger's post. I'm pretty sure it was an innocent mistake.
 
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Sleegro said:
If you are not posting negative comments about our team or our recruiting in every thread then you are a pumper and are attacking realists with yer wait and see, patient posts. Didn't yer mama teach you the ol' saying, "if you don't have anything negative to say then don't say anything at all." I apologize to anyone who took offense to charger's post. I'm pretty sure it was an innocent mistake.
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Haha. Man I was so horrible as a teen. "I KNOW what's about to happen".
I could only be wrong so many times until humility demanded the phrase become "let's see what happens".
But not a trait shared by everyone, especially when up against impatience.
 
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kemotoe said:
Just curious @ChattaTNVol what is your profession? You seem very analytical and data driven.
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My profession was project controls as part of project management teams, basically project development, performance monitoring, and reporting. I mostly worked on capital projects in the commercial power industry. I’m retired now and focused mostly on Tennessee football.

There are a lot of ways people try to determine strength of schedule so I figured I’d use the FPI and see what it looked like. I went game-by-game through all 112 games that will be played by the SEC in the regular season (56 OOC games + 56 SEC games) and adjusting for home field advantage came up with these record forecasts. Many of these games are tossups but I just let the math pick the winner even if it was almost a 50-50 game. ESPN will eventually provide their own percentages but until then this is what I have for our probability of winning each of our games using the preseason FPI, Ga St 98%, BYU 79.3%, Chattanooga 99%, @UF 33.6%, UGA 32.3%, MSU 51.2%, @UA 11.5%, SC 60.6%, UAB 97%, @KY 57.4%, @MO 50%, & VU 81.6%. The percentages are derived from the FPI projected spreads and converted to percentages based on the Vegas percentages for each spread. jmo.

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That Justin Rogers thread needs to be closed for like a week or so.

Why argue with kentucky trolls. Their best team in history couldn't beat one of our worst. Its one of the most one-sided "rivalry's" (and i only call it a rivalry because my NCAA 2013 [yes I still play the '13 over the 14 because I like the recruitng on 13 better than the goofy points system in 14] calls it a rivalry game) in all of college football.

Everyone just back away from that thread and lets just agree to revisit when Rogers decommits.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i tend to agree, but the big difference in the anxiety level is the ESD, and the recruiting calander being moved up. things supposedly should be happening faster/earlier, and are for some programs. hard to watch some of those guys do waht they're doing and still have so much unknown for us.

but yeah, usually this type of anxiety didn't happen til well in to the summer/fall. now it's backed up to spring/summer and most programs/prospects will be wrapping a lot of the recruiting up by Fall.

anyway, your point is correct. it's May.
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So May is the new September?
 
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Have to go to a HS graduation this afternoon. Big public school in Williamson Co. My grad has an H name and I plan to book out as soon as he walks. Bad form or smart play?
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
You should stay and enjoy. They only graduate from HS once. Besides, it's only May.
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Thanks for the answer. I am thinking that I don't need to watch a couple hundred people I don't know walk across a stage just to get stuck in traffic for an hour more when a few thousand people hit the exit at once. If I had kids at the school or socialized with people in that school's community, I could see my way to sitting it out.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
My profession was project controls as part of project management teams, basically project development, performance monitoring, and reporting. I mostly worked on capital projects in the commercial power industry. I’m retired now and focused mostly on Tennessee football.

There are a lot of ways people try to determine strength of schedule so I figured I’d use the FPI and see what it looked like. I went game-by-game through all 112 games that will be played by the SEC in the regular season (56 OOC games + 56 SEC games) and adjusting for home field advantage came up with these record forecasts. Many of these games are tossups but I just let the math pick the winner even if it was almost a 50-50 game. ESPN will eventually provide their own percentages but until then this is what I have for our probability of winning each of our games using the preseason FPI, Ga St 98%, BYU 79.3%, Chattanooga 99%, @UF 33.6%, UGA 32.3%, MSU 51.2%, @UA 11.5%, SC 60.6%, UAB 97%, @KY 57.4%, @MO 50%, & VU 81.6%. The percentages are derived from the FPI projected spreads and converted to percentages based on the Vegas percentages for each spread. jmo.

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Good stuff. Using those percentages our outlook is 7.5 wins. FPI is certainly north of many predictions I've seen and I do think the FPI can wind up with some wonky outcomes at times, but dang do I hope they're right this time.
 
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