Abortions and the bible.

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Septic said:
So you chose to be pro life. Is that the choice you've chosen?
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Let me rephrase, since I know you're slow, I realized the error of being ok with abortions.

I realized that all of the definitions I had about a "fetus" were incorrect. That I could no longer validate it. Yall can dehumanize a child in the womb all you want but you will be on the wrong side of history on this one.
 
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Weezer said:
Is it killing? You can say it's not murder, but can you say it's not killing? Are you ending a life or not? At what point do you consider it a life?

For some people this issue is black and white, but I see so much grey. I understand arguments from both sides. I don't know who's right. My personal preference is pro-life. But as a man, I question my right to make such decisions for women. Who am I to tell them what they can or cannot do with their own bodies?
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I think it is more of a life each passing day. I do not think there is a magic point at which time it moves from being a non-human to human life. (Maybe when the umbilical cord is cut.)
I have always felt Roe vs. Wade had the perfect balance.
I also understand why someone who felt it was murder would be adamantly against abortion, they should be.
Just as someone who feels every sperm is sacred should be adamantly against masturbation and recreational sex.
I don't want either group forcing me to live by their beliefs.
 
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luthervol said:
I think it is more of a life each passing day. I do not think there is a magic point at which time it moves from being a non-human to human life. (Maybe when the umbilical cord is cut.)
I have always felt Roe vs. Wade had the perfect balance.
I also understand why someone who felt it was murder would be adamantly against abortion, they should be.
Just as someone who feels every sperm is sacred should be adamantly against masturbation and recreational sex.
I don't want either group forcing me to live by their beliefs.
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But the baby has your beliefs forced on him or her... in this case they dont get the luxury of living.
 
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utvols88 said:
But the baby has your beliefs forced on him or her... in this case they dont get the luxury of living.
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And you're free to do with your sperm as you wish even though there are lunatics out there that think that every sperm is sacred. They are forced to live with the agony of their belief that hundreds of millions of sacred sperm are being murdered daily in ways that have nothing to do with procreation.
 
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luthervol said:
And you're free to do with your sperm as you wish even though there are lunatics out there that think that every sperm is sacred. They are forced to live with the agony of their belief that hundreds of millions of sacred sperm are being murdered daily in ways that have nothing to do with procreation.
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Then let’s stop talking about what people think and focus on the facts. Human development begins at conception is a biological fact, not an opinion.
 
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Roustabout said:
Then let’s stop talking about what people think and focus on the facts. Human development begins at conception is a biological fact, not an opinion.
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So what. There's nothing wrong with stopping human development in its early stages.
 
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hog88 said:
Of stopped human development.
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Millions see contraception as an artificial (sinful, criminal) stoppage of natural human development.
They can feel that way and I can disagree. They can view me (and you) as sinful or criminal and I could not care less.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
Like I said, god complex. She is a shining example. Thanks for making my point.
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I'm not sure pointing out the most infamously taken out of context phrase by the right is a shining example of a god complex by the left, but you do you.
 
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utvols88 said:
Let me rephrase, since I know you're slow, I realized the error of being ok with abortions.

I realized that all of the definitions I had about a "fetus" were incorrect. That I could no longer validate it. Yall can dehumanize a child in the womb all you want but you will be on the wrong side of history on this one.
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Well, at least we can agree that choosing to be pro-life is still a choice. All the rest of your incoherent rambling into what you "think" about a fetus or my views on abortion are worthless.
 
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Septic said:
I'm not sure pointing out the most infamously taken out of context phrase by the right is a shining example of a god complex by the left, but you do you.
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I'm not sure pointing to anything said by that "thing" should be used as an example for anything other than how to be a felon and get away scott free. However, there is still a ray of hope, no matter how dim.
 
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volfanjustin said:
Kinda kills the whole incest/rape etc arguments doesn't it
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Yeah, unless my math is wrong, 1/10,000th of 1% is equal to 1 in a million, right?

Not 1 in 1 million PEOPLE...

1 in 1 million abortions in florida...

Even rape, would be 1 in 100,000 abortions, so 4 in a year. Allegedly. Allegedly 4 women in a year in florida got pregnant from rape.

Lets make all the laws based on a 1 in a million chance though, and kill 60 million unborn babies even though 3 out of 4 were just a lazy arse form of birth control.

Wow...wow
 
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