Alabama bans abortion, pending Gov signature

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NorthDallas40 said:
They seem to value it enough to infer and get triggered and screech over it 🤷‍♂️

Edit: which frankly has been a LOT of fun 😈
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I think you're confusing "triggering and screeching" with them handing your ass to you.

I agree with you on the last part, it's certainly been entertaining to watch.
 
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rjd970 said:
Sure. Let's give it a go.

You've claimed in this thread that "it's been hanging in the air for 10 years" - which is WRONG.



Then when confronted with the Slate article from 2012 you backtracked that statement and said you had in fact read it. Which is DISHONEST when compared to the above quote..



You further quoted, out of context yet again, this time saying there was no follow-up whether she supported eugenics. Implying what exactly?



Throughout the entire thread you continually held to the wrong side of this thing and attacking Luther, who in fact, was right the entire time:









Why not just fess up that you jumped the gun on this and attached yourself to a talking point instead of finding out real truth?
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Colluther has not been right the entire time and as I implied was most likely oblivious to the history of this “quote”. I stand behind every statement I’ve made and your shrieking triggered replies are totally based on your own inference. You can keep shrieking and inferring or just ask me my opinion on this history of this and RBG’s views? 🤷‍♂️
 
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Septic said:
I think you're confusing "triggering and screeching" with them handing your ass to you.

I agree with you on the last part, it's certainly been entertaining to watch.
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Eh of course you would. This is your usual retort almond boy. <- that one is new though !
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Colluther has not been right the entire time and as I implied was most likely oblivious to the history of this “quote”. I stand behind every statement I’ve made and your shrieking triggered replies are totally based on your own inference. You can keep shrieking and inferring or just ask me my opinion on this history of this and RBG’s views? 🤷‍♂️
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This is what I think of this entire exchange:

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Yawn...
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luthervol said:
That's some mighty fine wiggling.. Not really.
You are asserting that her quote supports what Neocon is claiming: That RBG is on record in her own words claiming that SHE PASSED Rowe vs Wade to keep the unwanted minority population down.
If that's not what you are asserting, then my claim that she said no such thing would be correct.
It has to be one or the other, does her quote mean what Neocon claims, or am I correct in stating that she said no such thing?

Sorry to all of the posters having to skim through all of this nonsense.
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I am stating why the Dems passed, not specifically her. She slipped up and spoke true dem from the heart.
 
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rjd970 said:
This is what I think of this entire exchange:
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Btw Genuis here’s a hint. Let’s parse that Slate article written by the same author as the original interview. There’s a huge bigly amount of information including a “mea culpa”, the words used by the author describing her own interview process. It pretty much fits exactly what I have stated in this thread.

Justice Ginsburg Sets the Record Straight on Abortion and Population Control

The Slate story in fact validates what I’ve put forth. And this is a great quote from it.

To imagine that Justice Ginsburg would endorse eugenics as a motivation for supporting legal abortion, you have to be out to get her. I say that because this notion is so entirely at odds with her life’s work advocating for equal rights for women, especially poor women. That’s why it didn’t occur to me at the time. It’s a gotcha, and nothing more. And for the record, I’d be just as loath to impute support for eugenics to Scalia, because he’s also never done anything to suggest that he thinks that way.
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Here’s more validation on the debate from Justice Ginsburg herself.

“Emily, you know that that line, which you quoted accurately, was vastly misinterpreted,” she said. “I was surprised that the court went as far as it did in Roe v. Wade...
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NEOCON said:
I am stating why the Dems passed, not specifically her. She slipped up and spoke true dem from the heart.
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Yeah actually Roe v Wade predated Justice Ginsburg being on the court by I think about 20 years? She has no say in it being upheld.
 
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volfanjustin said:
I think most females are more than abortion issue voters. Sure you have your loud mouth loons like Milano, Harris and Warren but they are in the minority. I don't know a single woman who is pro abortion, every woman I associate with is 100% pro life.
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How many of them have a primary color as their hair color?
 
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NEOCON said:
She did make it very clear she is a racist though.
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She’s an incredible intellect and very accomplished. I think if she had hugely subversive views she’s smart enough to keep them hidden.

Again, absolutely cannot stand her politics and hope she gets off the court soon. But I have nothing but respect for her and hope her health issues resolve and she has time left to enjoy with her family... just get off the damn court or show up for work!
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
She’s an incredible intellect and very accomplished. I think if she had hugely subversive views she’s smart enough to keep them hidden.

Again, absolutely cannot stand her politics and hope she gets off the court soon. But I have nothing but respect for her and hope her health issues resolve and she has time left to enjoy with her family... just get off the damn court or show up for work!
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We disagree.

Hitler had a high intellect and was accomplished too. Same as Stalin.

Same s Ted Bundy.

Yes, I went there.
 
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luthervol said:
FACT CHECK: Did Ruth Bader Ginsburg Cite 'Population Growth' Concerns When Roe v. Wade Was Decided?
Ginsburg: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae — in 1980 the Court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roewas going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion. Which some people felt would risk coercing women into having abortions when they didn’t really want them. But when the court decided McRae, the case came out the other way. And then I realized that my perception of it had been altogether wrong.

It is amazing what can be learned by including context.
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Her comments, when made, did cause quite the commotion. So much so, that when the interviewer got to sit down with RBG again, she asked RBG to clarify her statement. At that time, RBG said the quote was accurate but misinterpreted. And maybe it was. I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. But I also know if a Republican said the same thing there would be unending cries of "racism" from the left.


In some ways though, supporting Planned Parenthood is a bit racist. It was founded by Margaret Sanger who was a proponent of Eugenics. I'm curious at what point an organization overcomes the reasons it was founded.
 
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NEOCON said:
We disagree.
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I’m ok with that man it’s cool. Besides you teed me up 8 pages of fun 😂

Whoa on the edit! Justice Ginsburg is a slimey liberal for sure but I’m gonna wave off on Stalin and Hitler comparisons. Prior to her bench appointment she was counsel for the ACLU and a Yuge bigly champion of women in that role. I hate her politics but I admire and respect her legal work in that area. No I don’t admire and respect the ACLU.
 
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Weezer said:
Her comments, when made, did cause quite the commotion. So much so, that when the interviewer got to sit down with RBG again, she asked RBG to clarify her statement. At that time, RBG said the quote was accurate but misinterpreted. And maybe it was. I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. But I also know if a Republican said the same thing there would be unending cries of "racism" from the left.


In some ways though, supporting Planned Parenthood is a bit racist. It was founded by Margaret Sanger who was a proponent of Eugenics. I'm curious at what point an organization overcomes the reasons it was founded.
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Abortion doesn’t exist it forces you to make sure the poor get educated and out of poverty or you go under as a nation.

With abortion you can break up the nuclear family and make sure you keep them poor and scared with just enough votes to sway elections but not enough votes to assume power.

It’s evil.
 
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NEOCON said:
Abortion doesn’t exist it forces you to make sure the poor get educated and out of poverty or you go under as a nation.

With abortion you can break up the nuclear family and make sure you keep them poor and scared with just enough votes to sway elections but not enough votes to assume power.

It’s evil.
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I've seen both sides of the argument, and truthfully, it's not a minefield I really want to wade into. I know my personal feelings, but I'm loathe to let my personal feelings be the standard others should follow.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Btw Genuis here’s a hint. Let’s parse that Slate article written by the same author as the original interview. There’s a huge bigly amount of information including a “mea culpa”, the words used by the author describing her own interview process. It pretty much fits exactly what I have stated in this thread.

Justice Ginsburg Sets the Record Straight on Abortion and Population Control

The Slate story in fact validates what I’ve put forth. And this is a great quote from it.



Here’s more validation on the debate from Justice Ginsburg herself.
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Lol, who’s screeching now? Your posts suggest you didn’t even know about this article until I posted it. You thought she had been silent for 10 years!!! Even more evident by the fact that you are just now commenting on the article itself.

I’m not quoting, yet again, inferences you’ve made about eugenics, claims she’s been silent on this for 10 years, or any other inaccuracy that is proven flat wrong by this article you now thinks “validates you”. You must be a troll at this point. This is just silly at this point.
 
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rjd970 said:
Lol, who’s screeching now? Your posts suggest you didn’t even know about this article until I posted it. You thought she had been silent for 10 years!!! Even more evident by the fact that you are just now commenting on the article itself.

I’m not quoting, yet again, inferences you’ve made about eugenics, claims she’s been silent on this for 10 years, or any other inaccuracy that is proven flat wrong by this article you now thinks “validates you”. You must be a troll at this point. This is just silly at this point.
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Nope. I was very clear on the fact that the interviewer issued no immediate follow up allowing Ginsburg to expand her answer and the interviewer even said that. I even said I read that specific article when I searched to grab the quote. You’re trying to split hairs on “follow up”. No immediate follow up was done. Fact. And I said the three year later “follow up” was moot, that horse had long ago escaped the barn and been beaten to death as a result. Justice Ginsburg in her own words acknowledged that in the quote from the article.

The fact is Slick I was playing the long game when I dropped that reply to colluther and you jumped the shark with your own inference. These last 8 or so pages are a small microcosm example of the last 10 years of the statement parsing. Pro lifers using the rallying cry that Justice Ginsburg indeed served up to them and the pro choice screeching and answering foul. Thanks for playing 😈
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Nope. I was very clear on the fact that the interviewer issued no immediate follow up allowing Ginsburg to expand her answer and the interviewer even said that. I even said I read that specific article when I searched to grab the quote. You’re trying to split hairs on “follow up”. No immediate follow up was done. Fact. And I said the three year later “follow up” was moot, that horse had long ago escaped the barn and been beaten to death as a result. Justice Ginsburg in her own words acknowledged that in the quote from the article.

The fact is Slick I was playing the long game when I dropped that reply to colluther and you jumped the shark with your own inference. These last 8 or so pages are a small microcosm example of the last 10 years of the statement parsing. Pro lifers using the rallying cry that Justice Ginsburg indeed served up to them and the pro choice screeching and answering foul. Thanks for playing 😈
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The long game? Lol.

Keep on digging. Your entire post history in this thread has been an embarrassment and changed course more times than anyone could possibly count.
 
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rjd970 said:
The long game? Lol.

Keep on digging. Your entire post history in this thread has been an embarrassment and changed course more times than anyone could possibly count.
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It has done no such thing. And congrats. You played your role perfectly 😂
 
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Thoughts:

RBG will never live that down. If any white conservative male ever said anything half that racist, he would be immediately run off the reservation, and labeled for life, a pariah
..."we" dont want them increasing...lmao.


2. Yall dems trying to carry water for her on a "clarification" she made years later look stupid. Much easier when someone really, really screws up to just say "yeah, i dont km now wtf she was thinking, but she is still cool with me." People respect honesty.

3. Never tried soy or almond milk, but had a carton of lactose free recently, and it was great. All the goodness of milk, no wind. Should have been this way all along, like seedless fruits and such.

4. There are so many female hormones in the meat we eat, public water from birth control, now soy etc...it isnt hard to see why there Just simply arent as many alpha type manly guys as there were before. There just arent. Dont think hormones matter much? Your wife must not fluctuate much. PMS is real, as in REAL. Shoot, steroids prescribed for injuries etc can make you short tempered and aggressive. I inject testosterone, i promise you it effects my mood, personality, and physique. As well as sex drive . I didnt realize until a few years ago when i started altering mine, how HUGE an effect hormones have on us. It has helped me to deal with my wife better, who not only has raging PMS, but every 3 weeks roughly instead of 4...keywords : extra space. There is zero doubt in my mind that preteen and teen boys are negatively affected by all the female hormones. Skinny jeans for petes sake.
 
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MercyPercy said:
Well this has been a cringe-worthy exchange. Let us get back to discussing how much liberals enjoy murdering infants, drinking their blood and selling the parts to Hillary Clinton.
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You never let me have any fun Percy. 😥

But what happened in the last 8 pages is going to come more to the forefront in the coming months. I think you’re gonna get to relive Justice Thomas/Anita Hill again too. And the made up misogynistic narrative on Justice Kavanaugh is going to come back again. And we’re gonna hear some made up tripe on Justice Roberts since it’s his court.

Those friggin Gumps did this for a reason they want it to go all the way to SCOTUS. Read the op-Ed’s on it dude.
 
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