Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I disagree
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In my case you are. I was a huge fan of The Song of Ice and Fire before HBO ever thought about doing a series. The books never glamorize sex. It is the part of the show I most dislike, and for the most part it's use has dwindled to very little as the seasons have went on.
 
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HankHill said:
I would love to sit down with a PFF person and look at their grades. Last year they had Keller Chryst graded higher than Tua when we played against them.

Set aside anyone’s opinion on JG including my own... how the hell is Fromm rated lower than him? He had 30tds and 6ints
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This is what they say.

On every play, a PFF analyst will grade each player on a scale of -2 to +2 according to what he did on the play.

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PERFORMANCE VS PRODUCTION
We aren’t grading players based on the yardage they rack up or the stats they collect. Statistics can be indicative of performance but don’t tell the whole story and can often lie badly. Quarterbacks can throw the ball straight to defenders but if the ball is dropped, you won't see it on the stat sheet. Conversely, they can dump the ball off on a sequence of screen passes and end up with a gaudy looking stat line if those skill position players do enough work after the catch.

PFF grades the play, not its result, so the quarterback that throws the ball to defenders will be downgraded whether the defender catches the ball to notch the interception on the stat sheet or not. No amount of broken tackles and yards after the catch from a bubble screen will earn a quarterback a better grade, even though his passing stats may be getting padded.
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LA Vol said:
Six wins and a bowl was the expectation last year. Not reaching a prior year's expectation doesn't mean you can kick it forward to the next year. The expectation this year should be higher than it was last year-- so a floor of seven wins, with eight wins being encouraging and six wins being less so.

Some people don't want to quantify success, but when winning games and competing for championships is the measuring stick, then that's exactly how coaches, teams and programs are judged. None of which, in any way, indicates staff changes are warranted in Year 2.
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So we can't build a new projection based on new information? Doesn't seem like the best way to predict something.
 
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jjay2518 said:
So you think a large number of people watch because there is like one brief nude scene every three episodes? There are much more efficient ways to consume porn. This may nee one of your worst bad takes.
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I won’t continue the debate. I think that is what originally stirred up interest in the show, yes. Not saying the storyline isn’t good. I wouldn’t know
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I won’t continue the debate. I think that is what originally stirred up interest in the show, yes. Not saying the storyline isn’t good. I wouldn’t know
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I agree that they used sex as way to make the extensive exposition needed to tell the story in a way that unintelligent people would follow. They even had a phrase coined for the way GoT used it...Sexposition. That is a huge difference in the books and show. Sex is never used to titillate in the books, when it is actually graphically talked about, it is generally depicted in a violent or vulgar and disgusting way.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I stand by what I said
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Bass, you've been killing it in other threads today. I agree people here enjoy defending rivals too much/quickly. GOT has phenomenal acting, cinematography, music and more. The fighting scenes and battles are also epic (my favorite parts). Saying all this to prove your only for the sex comment is incorrect.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i agree with a lot of this, especially about the WR's. i think we have "good" WR's, but i don't know that they're the strongest part of the team? deepest maybe....best? i'd say DB's are probably the best group on the team.

Jennings to me is a taller version of Hines Ward. so play him like that, his best attribute is his toughness and willingness to have contact. none of them are super speedy.....so finding ways to get htem in space is going to be important.

agree about Chandler and the passing game.

attempts will surely go up.
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imo DBs may have a higher long-term ceiling, but still young. WRs are good, experienced, and deep.

But I can see why not everyone is gushing over our WRs, but I'd say at least part of the "WRs are our best group" talk is also due to many of our groups simply not being good. It is as much a reflection on our team as the WRs themselves.
 
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Wadetime said:
Bass, you've been killing it in other threads today. I agree people here enjoy defending rivals too much/quickly. GOT has phenomenal acting, cinematography, music and more. The fighting scenes and battles are also epic (my favorite parts). Saying all this to prove your only for the sex comment is incorrect.
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I said I think that originally stirred up interest, not that the storyline isn’t good.
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
It wasn’t your fault. I was just in a GOT frenzy and went clicking like crazy without looking at who wrote it or what the label said. Oh well. At least I noticed quick and only really read the first line; even though it was a doozy.
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That’s all you needed to see. After that it was just what I was glad did not happen
 
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McGeesPub said:
This staff needs to actually show something this year. They’ve had pockets of success - beating Auburn, signing a couple of blue chips in the late period - but they need a success for an entire book of work, such as a winning season or a top 5 class.

No reason to suffer this “baby steps” garbage. A program with the resources of UT shouldn’t have to take baby steps like Kentucky does. We also don’t have to go from worst to first, but if we can’t make noise one way or the other, it’s going to be tough to argue that Pruitt is any better than Butch was going into year 3.
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To be fair, nothing wrong with what Butch did through 3 years. 15 points from an undefeated season and the #4 class. On the upswing. His problem was 1) losing S&C coach, 2) losing Jancek, 3) total lack of development. If we are in the same spot after 3 seasons and looking forward to starting top-10 in 2021, that's fine by me. I suspect Pruitt will have superior development and work like heck to hold onto Fitz and Ansley.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Uhh...to be fair Missouri leads the series 5-2, so we've not exactly been consistently beating them. Back to back 50-17 performances too, they've scored 50+ 3 of those 5 wins...

"back to who you are" for me is beating Vandy, Kentucky, USC and the 4 ooc games. While competing with UF/UGA and the -other- SEC West team we play each year.
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True. Though so many fans still can't understand this league will never be the same as it was 10 or 20 years ago. We aren't going backwards to UK and Vandy recruiting the worst of the worst and going 2-10 year in and year out. This isn't your father's SEC.

Just look at the 247 team talent composite.

UK - 32nd - only 1 spot behind VT and 1 spot ahead of TCU. Both teams that are good because of good coaches. That is all UK really needs to be fairly dangerous.

USC - 21st - 1 spot behind Washington. Just 6 behind UT...

Vandy - 45th - a spot behind Utah and 1 above NW. 2 other respectable programs when they have had a good head coach.

Yes we should beat them more often than not, but the gap has closed for the foreseeable future. This league doesn't have a Kansas, Wake Forest, Oregon St, etc at the moment.
 
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