Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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butchna said:
How do you guarantee that...exactly? And Barnes didn’t say he “doesn’t want to be here”. Because if it were true...he wouldn’t be.
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He literally said if they'd have paid the buyout I'd be out. There's no other way to view that than that he would rather be at UCLA. You can tell yourself differently all you want.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
You want your wife to be honest with you, but as soon as she tells you she had a fling with the neighbor but decided ultimately to stay with you, you got upset.

The audacity!
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Build that strawman so you can burn it down.

If you don't know the difference between a job and a marriage then I feel real bad for your boss. Also, if your wife can't tell you she's unhappy because of your distaste for honest dialogue, I feel bad for her.
 
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Not from Tennessee. Didn't go to school here. Has never been a fan here.

I like the beach. I like the mountains better.

A school he would like to be his swan song came calling. He listened. When he didn't feel the deal had enough positives over his current situation, he accepted it as God's will to stay where he was. I considered moving to the mountains, but I couldn't get peace that it was the right move, so I stayed at the beach. The beach is offended.

He's not our wife. He didn't cheat on us. He was choosing between two things he likes. To make it more that that is just dumb.

The funny thing is that some y'all complaining the loudest are the same ones that complained that we hired Kellie rather than Geno or some other mercenary.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
He literally said if they'd have paid the buyout I'd be out. There's no other way to view that than that he would rather be at UCLA. You can tell yourself differently all you want.
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I don’t talk to myself. Let me repeat, If he DIDN’T WANT TO BE HERE...he wouldn’t be.
 
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chargervol said:
It's a business, we all ALREADY know that but that isn't my issue.
My issue is it didn't have to be, at least not like that.

I'm about winning and have no interest in running off Barnes.
But why? lol. You had a week to plan and every opportunity to embrace the fans and you chose that?

Hell, Kiffin ditched us and didn't even have to give a response. He still managed the whole "the only school", " my dream school" lines.

We joke about reaching the age where you just don't give a crap about what you say, maybe Barnes is there😅
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And if he didn't want to lie, why not just go about your business as usual?

I said the other day that obvious PR lying bulls**t bothered me, but that doesn't mean you need to call a press event to blurt out a truth that's only going to make things harder on yourself and your employer.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
He literally said if they'd have paid the buyout I'd be out. There's no other way to view that than that he would rather be at UCLA. You can tell yourself differently all you want.
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Eh, I don't care. They didn't and he's here until we can him or he retires. Ain't nobody going to throw Barnes the kind of money it'll take to pull him now :cool: #BigBoydBucks
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I didn't bother with most of the press conference, I know why Barnes listened when UCLA called. He had about 5 million reasons to listen.

I appreciate the fact he gave UT the chance to get their ducks in a row and pitch a real counter offer to keep him here until he retired. UCLA still had more money on the table, but them not willing to pay the buyout wasn't worth uprooting again so the decision was made.

I don't really take it as "I love UCLA more, so I'm just here because of the buyout" I take it more of a "two amazing job offers, and I stuck with the one I was familiar with"
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All that is fine.

But how do you think it would go if you went to your boss right now and told them you had another job lined up but at the end of the day they didn’t pay as much as you wanted?

It may work out fine - especially if you’re a good employee your boss wanted to keep.

But you better believe they’re making a mental note of it. And if your performance starts to lag - it would very likely be used against you.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I didn't bother with most of the press conference, I know why Barnes listened when UCLA called. He had about 5 million reasons to listen.

I appreciate the fact he gave UT the chance to get their ducks in a row and pitch a real counter offer to keep him here until he retired. UCLA still had more money on the table, but them not willing to pay the buyout wasn't worth uprooting again so the decision was made.

I don't really take it as "I love UCLA more, so I'm just here because of the buyout" I take it more of a "two amazing job offers, and I stuck with the one I was familiar with"
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Then don't give the God told me I should stay here speel.
 
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chargervol said:
It's a business, we all ALREADY know that but that isn't my issue.
My issue is it didn't have to be, at least not like that.

I'm about winning and have no interest in running off Barnes.
But why? lol. You had a week to plan and every opportunity to embrace the fans and you chose that?

Hell, Kiffin ditched us and didn't even have to give a response. He still managed the whole "the only school", " my dream school" lines.

We joke about reaching the age where you just don't give a crap about what you say, maybe Barnes is there😅
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I was 17. 😎
 
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I'm glad Rick Barnes is staying, and I don't care if it was only because UCLA wouldn't pay the buyout. It's a business, and UCLA is still a dream job in the eyes of many Boomer coaches that grew up in awe of Wooden. I'm just glad we aren't troting out Steve Forbes or Casey Alexander and staring a 3 year rebuild in the face. We get to keep our 5 star playing coming in, and it has to help us with our current players who have one foot in the NBA draft.

The only thing that bothers me is that he keeps referring to God wanting him to be here, when we know for a fact it's about money. Is he saying that he knew God wanted him to stay at Tennessee because UCLA lowballed him on the buyout? I guess they do say God works in mysterious ways...
 
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Kingston Vol said:
All that is fine.

But how do you think it would go if you went to your boss right now and told them you had another job lined up but at the end of the day they didn’t pay as much as you wanted?

It may work out fine - especially if you’re a good employee your boss wanted to keep.

But you better believe they’re making a mental note of it. And if your performance starts to lag - it would very likely be used against you.
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Funny you mention that, it's exactly how my line of work goes.

I put in a notice once in October...the new company -wanted me- before Thanksgiving, current employer didn't want me gone. Went back & forth a few times with the current boss couldn't give me what I wanted to stay. New job ended up waiting until after the holidays to finally give me a start date...day after MLK Jr. Day.

Was on a "could be this week" notice for 3 months. No one takes it personal if you're civil and honest with everyone involved.
 
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hotcypress said:
I'm glad Rick Barnes is staying, and I don't care if it was only because UCLA wouldn't pay the buyout. It's a business, and UCLA is still a dream job in the eyes of many Boomer coaches that grew up in awe of Wooden. I'm just glad we aren't troting out Steve Forbes or Casey Alexander and staring a 3 year rebuild in the face. We get to keep our 5 star playing coming in, and it has to help us with our current players who have one foot in the NBA draft.

The only thing that bothers me is that he keeps referring to God wanting him to be here, when we know for a fact it's about money. Is he saying that he knew God wanted him to stay at Tennessee because UCLA lowballed him on the buyout? I guess they do say God works in mysterious ways...
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Preaching that Joel Osteen prosperity gospel, baby!
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Funny you mention that, it's exactly how my line of work goes.

I put in a notice once in October...the new company -wanted me- before Thanksgiving, current employer didn't want me gone. Went back & forth a few times with the current boss couldn't give me what I wanted to stay. New job ended up waiting until after the holidays to finally give me a start date...day after MLK Jr. Day.

Was on a "could be this week" notice for 3 months. No one takes it personal if you're civil and honest with everyone involved.
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... And the current employer isn't being a dick demanding unearned loyalty. We are all adults, until one of us isn't.
 
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