2020 Presidential Race

[C-south]

If your employer came to you and said they could give you a 10k raise but the only way would be for you to pay 5k more in taxes. Would that be a positive for you? Would you take the deal.

Only if you have to without a raise.

 

[zeppelin128]

If your employer came to you and said they could give you a 10k raise but the only way would be for you to pay 5k more in taxes. Would that be a positive for you? Would you take the deal.

The Fox News person tweet didn't mention that you wouldn't pay current insurance premiums with that tax raise..

 

[1972 Grad]

Which is why he doesn't stand a chance in 2020. Someday though, something so trivial won't matter; good policy will matter, not a dude's husband.

Good policy like free sh!t for everybody?

 

[zeppelin128]

Good policy like free sh!t for everybody?

That ain't what Mayor Pete is about. Actually no Democrat currently running or liberal is about that.

 

[C-south]

Good policy like free sh!t for everybody?

Yep. Bernie wants a system that works for everybody and not just the 1%ers....even though he is one. Like Luther he pushes for higher taxes yet he doesn’t want to pay them himself.

 

[1972 Grad]

That ain't what Mayor Pete is about. Actually no Democrat currently running or liberal is about that.

I have read that he supports Medicare for all who want it or single payer, and forgiveness of some student debt, and no cuts to social spending. Sounds like free sh!t to me. He is the typical lib with his views on gun control, climate change, abortion, etc. , etc.

 

[zeppelin128]

I have read that he supports Medicare for all who want it or single payer, and forgiveness of some student debt, and no cuts to social spending. Sounds like free sh!t to me. He is the typical lib with his views on gun control, climate change, abortion, etc. , etc.

Nah, that ain't free stuff. Single payer health care means a bump in taxes for everyone, but no insurance premiums. Student loan debt forgiveness sounds like a tax credit/exemption, you guys are fond of those; increased spending power reintroduced into the economy, trickle up economics. There shouldn't be cuts to social spending. Trump is running record deficits, so I'm not sure why this is an issue for Pete suddenly.
Pro-choice, environmentally conscious, I'm not sure what isn't to like here.
Now that it is official we will get some more concrete policy ideas, and we can go from there.

 

[tvolsfan]

I would love go have watched the Bernie event yesterday, but...

WATCH: Bernie Sanders Has Infowars Reporter Booted From Public Event For Most Ironic Reason Ever

I’m laughing at infowars describing itself as a conservative news source.

 

[hog88]

If your employer came to you and said they could give you a 10k raise but the only way would be for you to pay 5k more in taxes. Would that be a positive for you? Would you take the deal.

No.

 

[tvolsfan]

I hate to tell you, but older voters (the people who actually vote) don't want a man representing their country, arm in arm with the First Husband and kissing him in public. They may more or less accept gays and have them in their families, but they don't want to watch 2 men kissing.

Yay, bigotry!

 

[volfanjustin]

Nah, that ain't free stuff. Single payer health care means a bump in taxes for everyone, but no insurance premiums. Student loan debt forgiveness sounds like a tax credit/exemption, you guys are fond of those; increased spending power reintroduced into the economy, trickle up economics. There shouldn't be cuts to social spending. Trump is running record deficits, so I'm not sure why this is an issue for Pete suddenly.
Pro-choice, environmentally conscious, I'm not sure what isn't to like here.
Now that it is official we will get some more concrete policy ideas, and we can go from there.

Will not be a bump for everyone, the bottom 50% barely pay anything and that wouldn't change, us in the top 50% would take the hit for ours and those in the bottom 50%.
No I don't want to collapse the economy to maybe change the temp .0001 degree over 100 years
No I don't want millions of abortions as a form of birth control, so there is plenty not to like here

 

[zeppelin128]

Will not be a bump for everyone, the bottom 50% barely pay anything and that wouldn't change, us in the top 50% would take the hit for ours and those in the bottom 50%.
No I don't want to collapse the economy to maybe change the temp .0001 degree over 100 years
No I don't want millions of abortions as a form of birth control, so there is plenty not to like here

If you don't like his policies, fair enough.

 

[Burger]

Nah, that ain't free stuff. Single payer health care means a bump in taxes for everyone, but no insurance premiums. Student loan debt forgiveness sounds like a tax credit/exemption, you guys are fond of those; increased spending power reintroduced into the economy, trickle up economics. There shouldn't be cuts to social spending. Trump is running record deficits, so I'm not sure why this is an issue for Pete suddenly.
Pro-choice, environmentally conscious, I'm not sure what isn't to like here.
Now that it is official we will get some more concrete policy ideas, and we can go from there.

'Trickle up economics is a fantasy. In reality, there are two basic economic theories that come down to Supply side vs. Demand side. Keynesian economics is what crashed the economy in 2008 by giving unqualified people loans.

 

[Grand Vol]

I’m laughing at infowars describing itself as a conservative news source.

So, the Bernie campaign was right to kick them out?

 

[volfanjustin]

Running for President has been good for ole Bernie

 

[BigOrangeD]

Running for President has been good for ole Bernie

He'd rather take other people's money and give it away just like all DIMs and Socialists.

 

[tvolsfan]

So, the Bernie campaign was right to kick them out?

He probably should have ignored them for everyone’s sake.

 

[Grand Vol]

He probably should have ignored them for everyone’s sake.

You're right. Now his campaign looks like a bunch of fascist thugs trying to hide something.

 

[C-south]

Running for President has been good for ole Bernie

With an effective tax rate in the 20s. Wonder how many of his books Soros bought?

 

[volfanjustin]

 

[tvolsfan]

You're right. Now his campaign looks like a bunch of fascist thugs trying to hide something.

No, if he was trying to hide something, he would kick out actual journalists.

 

[Burger]

No, if he was trying to hide something, he would kick out actual journalists.

Who decides who's actual and who isn't? I mean the majority of the MSM was pumping a conspiracy theory for 2 years.

 

[tvolsfan]

Who decides who's actual and who isn't? I mean the majority of the MSM was pumping a conspiracy theory for 2 years.

Pretty sure the MSM never alleged anyone was trying to turn frogs gay while pedaling merchandise.

 

[Burger]

Pretty sure the MSM never alleged anyone was trying to turn frogs gay while pedaling merchandise.

Very fair, and still very funny.

 

[Grand Vol]

No, if he was trying to hide something, he would kick out actual journalists.

Regardless, optics are crappy on this one.