Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[VolGee4]

Publicity? Maybe Not. But i think grant Williams would be a very good player like he is now at virtually in school he chose to play for.

Well, of course. But UT gives him the big stage. He wouldn’t be getting the notoriety and possibly the NBA projections if he was at an Ivy League School.

 

[peaygolf]

I celebrate Bill Walton. Dont @ me

Probably thought Dennis Miller and Witten were good as well.....

 

[Catbone]

Was #1 for 4 weeks.

19 game win streak

Undefeated at home.

27-4 regular season record.

Beat Gonzaga.

Beat Kentucky.

Swept UF, Vandy, SC, UGA, Mizzou.

Barnes probably gonna get COY again over the Will "FBI" Wade.

Williams is a no brainier as POY again.

Sorry...but I'll take all the positives over a few negatives.

As I said, a historic year. But I'm here for a banner in TBA

 

[peaygolf]

Just saying.....

Kamar, Dazalin, De’Arre, Rakim,Thaiu, Thailand.........?????

If things work out, UT will be “All Name” National Champions.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Was #1 for 4 weeks.

19 game win streak

Undefeated at home.

27-4 regular season record.

Beat Gonzaga.

Beat Kentucky.

Swept UF, Vandy, SC, UGA, Mizzou.

Barnes probably gonna get COY again over the Will "FBI" Wade.

Williams is a no brainier as POY again.

Sorry...but I'll take all the positives over a few negatives.

Nope

Burn it

 

[Devo182]

Bruh advice needed:

Hometown buddy just invited me to a Vegas trip. He just got married, as did I. Other 3 are wild singles clearly going for the "vegas experience". On one hand it may be my last shot of a guys' trip to Vegas (we are mid 30s). On the flipside, could be slightly...dangerous. I 99% trust myself and wife would know SCs are in play, nothing unusual and nothing more. But the single guys may mean a little trouble. I'm a bit torn. It's probably nothing wilder than an average bachelor's party, on the flipside I know Vegas can be intoxicating.

Younger guys, older wiser men - WWYD?

 

[#Vol4Life1991]

Bruh advice needed:

Hometown buddy just invited me to a Vegas trip. He just got married, as did I. Other 3 are wild singles clearly going for the "vegas experience". On one hand it may be my last shot of a guys' trip to Vegas (we are mid 30s). On the flipside, could be slightly...dangerous. I 99% trust myself and wife would know SCs are in play, nothing unusual and nothing more. But the single guys may mean a little trouble. I'm a bit torn. It's probably nothing wilder than an average bachelor's party, on the flipside I know Vegas can be intoxicating.

Younger guys, older wiser men - WWYD?

Go!! yolo... I went last September for my bach party. It was a blast!!

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Bruh advice needed:

Hometown buddy just invited me to a Vegas trip. He just got married, as did I. Other 3 are wild singles clearly going for the "vegas experience". On one hand it may be my last shot of a guys' trip to Vegas (we are mid 30s). On the flipside, could be slightly...dangerous. I 99% trust myself and wife would know SCs are in play, nothing unusual and nothing more. But the single guys may mean a little trouble. I'm a bit torn. It's probably nothing wilder than an average bachelor's party, on the flipside I know Vegas can be intoxicating.

Younger guys, older wiser men - WWYD?

Personally, I’ve never regretted situations with high amounts of stupid and alcohol. I can tell you about my friends though

 

[Devo182]

2 votes GO
0 votes STAY

Early lead goes to YOLO'ing

 

[BigOrange15]

Bruh advice needed:

Hometown buddy just invited me to a Vegas trip. He just got married, as did I. Other 3 are wild singles clearly going for the "vegas experience". On one hand it may be my last shot of a guys' trip to Vegas (we are mid 30s). On the flipside, could be slightly...dangerous. I 99% trust myself and wife would know SCs are in play, nothing unusual and nothing more. But the single guys may mean a little trouble. I'm a bit torn. It's probably nothing wilder than an average bachelor's party, on the flipside I know Vegas can be intoxicating.

Younger guys, older wiser men - WWYD?

Go, bro. If the other guys start getting stupid, just dip.

 

[Devo182]

2 unranked (by 247) 2020 guys from Montgomery, AL were offered. 1 is an 81-composite OL and the other an unranked CB. Strange but they love their Alabama offers.

 

[ChattaTNVol]

Erik Ainge spent some time watching the 1st day of spring practice and on his Friday show he and Brian discussed some of their initial impressions and some scuttlebutt circulating after the first day.

The key take away for Erik was it was night and day different from the start of spring last year. Practice was described as clean and crisp, not a ton of mistakes, really clean. Reminding us that it was day one Erik said there was definite improvement.

Brian noted that several people have described the offense as looking smooth. Erik commented that a lot of the improved impressions that people are having at the outset is due to having a lot of guys this year that spent last year learning how to practice. This really shows up in the transition from play to play, drill to drill, and period to period. Everything looks a lot smoother than the year before.

They discussed Wanya Morris and said that while he comes off looking like a SEC offensive lineman and future NFL lineman, he looks like that future NFL offensive lineman when the guy was 18 years old. The difference between Wanya Morris and Trey Smith, according to Erik, is that Trey looked like he was ready physically for the NFL the first day he stepped on campus.

They talked about DKjr and while wishing him well explored what would happen if he was unable to play. DK’s major contribution to the defense at this point, in their view, is he knows what to do. Erik said he loved Colton Jumper but Jumper should have never been on the field while much more talented guys were on the sideline. He was on the field because the other guys didn’t know what to do and according to Erik that was a coaching problem. Erik thinks that some of the younger guys we have now (Ignont, Crouch, Peterson) may end up moving ahead of DKjr on the depth chart.

Erik and Brian both expressed empathy for guys like DKjr, TKjr, and others who have struggled with injuries over the course of their careers. It’s a situation not of the player’s choosing. It is what it is.

In summation, Erik said, you want to get your best players on the field, hence why last year Jeremy Pruitt looked at the corners and lo and behold he spent every waking moment that Erik ever saw him with Bryce Thompson and Alontae Taylor because you don’t want lack of understanding determining who is on the field. Erik said he thinks the same approach will be used considering we have so many fast good options at linebacker. He said he thinks we’re going to be way better at linebacker than many people think. It’s just going to take our younger guys getting to know everything and he thinks there’s going to be some real serious competition at linebacker.

Erik talked about the pervasive teaching skills and qualities of our staff. Obviously, he said, football is more intense that 10th grade algebra but it’s about much more than being a Walt Wells yeller. You’ve got to be able to teach the concepts. He singled out watching Tee Martin in particular, watching him work with the wide receivers. Erik said he’s known Tee forever but had never seen him coach but watching Tee and his incredible attention to detail you come away with a better understanding of why Tee is considered a good developer of wide receivers.

Erik recalled a moment in his first spring with Cutcliffe. Cutt was trying over and over to teach him a concept essentially when the defense was in a particular coverage if someone crossed the Will linebacker’s face if you could see that and get the ball to the guy he was likely going for a huge gain. Erik said he understood the concept on paper but on the field he was lost. Then one day in a scrimmage the setup just happened, he saw it, hit his guy, and the guy went for a 60-yard gain. From that point on he knew he had that concept down and knew how to work it. This, according to Erik, is one of the significant benefits of spring practice. With good teachers and a willingness to learn, you’re eventually going to grasp the concepts in usable ways.

Both Erik and Brian got a bit sentimental talking about a picture floating around from the first day of spring with Tee Martin in the foreground coaching and in the background Phil Fulmer looking on. Brian called the picture, “Generations”.

 

[Devo182]

Erik Ainge spent some time watching the 1st day of spring practice and on his Friday show he and Brian discussed some of their initial impressions and some scuttlebutt circulating after the first day.

The key take away for Erik was it was night and day different from the start of spring last year. Practice was described as clean and crisp, not a ton of mistakes, really clean. Reminding us that it was day one Erik said there was definite improvement.

Brian noted that several people have described the offense as looking smooth. Erik commented that a lot of the improved impressions that people are having at the outset is due to having a lot of guys this year that spent last year learning how to practice. This really shows up in the transition from play to play, drill to drill, and period to period. Everything looks a lot smoother than the year before.

They discussed Wanya Morris and said that while he comes off looking like a SEC offensive lineman and future NFL lineman, he looks like that future NFL offensive lineman when the guy was 18 years old. The difference between Wanya Morris and Trey Smith, according to Erik, is that Trey looked like he was ready physically for the NFL the first day he stepped on campus.

They talked about DKjr and while wishing him well explored what would happen if he was unable to play. DK’s major contribution to the defense at this point, in their view, is he knows what to do. Erik said he loved Colton Jumper but Jumper should have never been on the field while much more talented guys were on the sideline. He was on the field because the other guys didn’t know what to do and according to Erik that was a coaching problem. Erik thinks that some of the younger guys we have now (Ignont, Crouch, Peterson) may end up moving ahead of DKjr on the depth chart.

Erik and Brian both expressed empathy for guys like DKjr, TKjr, and others who have struggled with injuries over the course of their careers. It’s a situation not of the player’s choosing. It is what it is.

In summation, Erik said, you want to get your best players on the field, hence why last year Jeremy Pruitt looked at the corners and lo and behold he spent every waking moment that Erik ever saw him with Bryce Thompson and Alontae Taylor because you don’t want lack of understanding determining who is on the field. Erik said he thinks the same approach will be used considering we have so many fast good options at linebacker. He said he thinks we’re going to be way better at linebacker than many people think. It’s just going to take our younger guys getting to know everything and he thinks there’s going to be some real serious competition at linebacker.

Erik talked about the pervasive teaching skills and qualities of our staff. Obviously, he said, football is more intense that 10th grade algebra but it’s about much more than being a Walt Wells yeller. You’ve got to be able to teach the concepts. He singled out watching Tee Martin in particular, watching him work with the wide receivers. Erik said he’s known Tee forever but had never seen him coach but watching Tee and his incredible attention to detail you come away with a better understanding of why Tee is considered a good developer of wide receivers.

Erik recalled a moment in his first spring with Cutcliffe. Cutt was trying over and over to teach him a concept essentially when the defense was in a particular coverage if someone crossed the Will linebacker’s face if you could see that and get the ball to the guy he was likely going for a huge gain. Erik said he understood the concept on paper but on the field he was lost. Then one day in a scrimmage the setup just happened, he saw it, hit his guy, and the guy went for a 60-yard gain. From that point on he knew he had that concept down and knew how to work it. This, according to Erik, is one of the significant benefits of spring practice. With good teachers and a willingness to learn, you’re eventually going to grasp the concepts in usable ways.

Both Erik and Brian got a bit sentimental talking about a picture floating around from the first day of spring with Tee Martin in the foreground coaching and in the background Phil Fulmer looking on. Brian called the picture, “Generations”.

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Wonderful. Thanks for that.

Only take I dislike is Jumper. He had the exact same coaching as everyone else and yet HE earned his spot over them. Leading sacker his final year. Saying it was a coaching problem isn't logical. Did Jumper have a different LB coach, EA?

 

[JCP201]

Was #1 for 4 weeks.

19 game win streak

Undefeated at home.

27-4 regular season record.

Beat Gonzaga.

Beat Kentucky.

Swept UF, Vandy, SC, UGA, Mizzou.

Barnes probably gonna get COY again over the Will "FBI" Wade.

Williams is a no brainier as POY again.

Sorry...but I'll take all the positives over a few negatives.

I will also mention that the ref helped other teams win in several of our few losses. No doubt, any true VOLS fan should love this team. I have hope that they will go far in this tournament, and even if they don't, there has never been such a team of outstanding guys that put on a Tennessee uniform. We should all be proud.

 

[JCP201]

Erik Ainge spent some time watching the 1st day of spring practice and on his Friday show he and Brian discussed some of their initial impressions and some scuttlebutt circulating after the first day.

The key take away for Erik was it was night and day different from the start of spring last year. Practice was described as clean and crisp, not a ton of mistakes, really clean. Reminding us that it was day one Erik said there was definite improvement.

Brian noted that several people have described the offense as looking smooth. Erik commented that a lot of the improved impressions that people are having at the outset is due to having a lot of guys this year that spent last year learning how to practice. This really shows up in the transition from play to play, drill to drill, and period to period. Everything looks a lot smoother than the year before.

They discussed Wanya Morris and said that while he comes off looking like a SEC offensive lineman and future NFL lineman, he looks like that future NFL offensive lineman when the guy was 18 years old. The difference between Wanya Morris and Trey Smith, according to Erik, is that Trey looked like he was ready physically for the NFL the first day he stepped on campus.

They talked about DKjr and while wishing him well explored what would happen if he was unable to play. DK’s major contribution to the defense at this point, in their view, is he knows what to do. Erik said he loved Colton Jumper but Jumper should have never been on the field while much more talented guys were on the sideline. He was on the field because the other guys didn’t know what to do and according to Erik that was a coaching problem. Erik thinks that some of the younger guys we have now (Ignont, Crouch, Peterson) may end up moving ahead of DKjr on the depth chart.

Erik and Brian both expressed empathy for guys like DKjr, TKjr, and others who have struggled with injuries over the course of their careers. It’s a situation not of the player’s choosing. It is what it is.

In summation, Erik said, you want to get your best players on the field, hence why last year Jeremy Pruitt looked at the corners and lo and behold he spent every waking moment that Erik ever saw him with Bryce Thompson and Alontae Taylor because you don’t want lack of understanding determining who is on the field. Erik said he thinks the same approach will be used considering we have so many fast good options at linebacker. He said he thinks we’re going to be way better at linebacker than many people think. It’s just going to take our younger guys getting to know everything and he thinks there’s going to be some real serious competition at linebacker.

Erik talked about the pervasive teaching skills and qualities of our staff. Obviously, he said, football is more intense that 10th grade algebra but it’s about much more than being a Walt Wells yeller. You’ve got to be able to teach the concepts. He singled out watching Tee Martin in particular, watching him work with the wide receivers. Erik said he’s known Tee forever but had never seen him coach but watching Tee and his incredible attention to detail you come away with a better understanding of why Tee is considered a good developer of wide receivers.

Erik recalled a moment in his first spring with Cutcliffe. Cutt was trying over and over to teach him a concept essentially when the defense was in a particular coverage if someone crossed the Will linebacker’s face if you could see that and get the ball to the guy he was likely going for a huge gain. Erik said he understood the concept on paper but on the field he was lost. Then one day in a scrimmage the setup just happened, he saw it, hit his guy, and the guy went for a 60-yard gain. From that point on he knew he had that concept down and knew how to work it. This, according to Erik, is one of the significant benefits of spring practice. With good teachers and a willingness to learn, you’re eventually going to grasp the concepts in usable ways.

Both Erik and Brian got a bit sentimental talking about a picture floating around from the first day of spring with Tee Martin in the foreground coaching and in the background Phil Fulmer looking on. Brian called the picture, “Generations”.

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Thanks for posting-- really gives me hope as I think Ainge has a great understanding of the game (could be a coach, IMO)..

 

[ChattaTNVol]

Wonderful. Thanks for that.

Only take I dislike is Jumper. He had the exact same coaching as everyone else and yet HE earned his spot over them. Leading sacker his final year. Saying it was a coaching problem isn't logical. Did Jumper have a different LB coach, EA?

I don’t disagree with what you are saying. This is my take on that. TIFWIW.

Some years back I did some research on teachers in education and my intent was to try to discover what made some teachers consistently more effective than others. With some teachers, their chosen profession is a passion, for others it’s a job. Some teachers aren’t just satisfied with presenting the lessons; they’re extremely motivated to make every effort, even invent new methods, to ensure that their pupils are able to develop comprehension.

One of the data points I came across was that for a student to understand the concept of the pythagorean theorem in mathematics the student needed to have an IQ of at least 100. In order to discover something like the pythagorean theorem in the first place a person would need to have an IQ greater than 130.

One of the remarks that our former head coach made early in his tenure here that to some people was a head scratcher was that SEC football was no different than football anywhere else.

I came to understand that teachers are just like every other field. You have the “NFL” quality teachers or the very best and then there are various rankings beneath that top tier. We have elite power 5 teachers, then maybe below that journeyman power 5 teachers, and so on all the way down to NAIA or below. Sure everybody has to start somewhere but when you hit your ceiling it’s got to be a bit embarrassing when you’re demoted from elite power 5 to intern.

Colton Jumper was a smart kid. He could pick up things pretty fast from a mental standpoint. That was his advantage and should serve him well throughout his life. He was not, in the view of many, the most gifted athlete we’ve had in our linebacker corps but there’s no doubt he gave his all.

SEC caliber coaches need to be able to teach concepts to their best athletes else why recruit them. One of the things I heard a number of times last year was that coaches were figuring out different ways to teach different players because they understood that not everyone learns the same way.

A number of people looking in the rear-view mirror have claimed that the problem with our last regime was the lack of development for the talent we had on our roster. We could take the position that hey we told you what to do; it’s not our fault if you didn’t learn it.

In any event I think most people would agree that Colton Jumper is probably one of those people that can and will succeed to the best of his abilities in spite of all the dysfunction that may surround him.

 

[chargervol]

Guys and gals I could use your thoughts and prayers tonight. My Mom is at UT hospital and they've found a spot on her brain. It could be anything from a lesion to a calcium deposit but they're keeping her over night so she can get an MRI. Please send whatever good thoughts or prayers you have her way. She's the reason I'm a huge UT fan.

Prayers and a hello from my room.

 

[appyvol]

The winner of that 8/9 game will beat LSU.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Bruh advice needed:

Hometown buddy just invited me to a Vegas trip. He just got married, as did I. Other 3 are wild singles clearly going for the "vegas experience". On one hand it may be my last shot of a guys' trip to Vegas (we are mid 30s). On the flipside, could be slightly...dangerous. I 99% trust myself and wife would know SCs are in play, nothing unusual and nothing more. But the single guys may mean a little trouble. I'm a bit torn. It's probably nothing wilder than an average bachelor's party, on the flipside I know Vegas can be intoxicating.

Younger guys, older wiser men - WWYD?

Wrap that rascal and inform the hookers you have a strict no hickies policy.


In all seriousness if you got 1% trust missing stay home.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Prayers and a hello from my room.
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Prayers for you.

 

[NeverWe'llSever]

The winner of that 8/9 game will beat LSU.

Definitely possible. Both split with LSU.

 

[SugarCC]

Malik Grey gets moved again. Will he ever find a permanent spot to develop in.

Trying to get him out the door, imo.

 

[volfanCLT]

LSU fans are next level dumb

Just saw the video of them booing Alleva.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Bruh advice needed:

Hometown buddy just invited me to a Vegas trip. He just got married, as did I. Other 3 are wild singles clearly going for the "vegas experience". On one hand it may be my last shot of a guys' trip to Vegas (we are mid 30s). On the flipside, could be slightly...dangerous. I 99% trust myself and wife would know SCs are in play, nothing unusual and nothing more. But the single guys may mean a little trouble. I'm a bit torn. It's probably nothing wilder than an average bachelor's party, on the flipside I know Vegas can be intoxicating.

Younger guys, older wiser men - WWYD?

Go...have fun, but be a real man, and honor yourself and your wife. The wisest man I have ever known used to say "You will go the way you are looking"...so be careful to look toward home.

 

[SugarCC]

Vandy sucks again. Britches

To put into perspective what they "accomplished" this year...the last SEC team to go winless in conference play was Georgia...TECH.