Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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butchna said:
And they kicked him off campus pretty immediately. He continued to play football and his sister signed on TO THE SAME SCHOOL to play softball. Where’s the oppressive environment? Guess if she has a slump her brother blazed a path. This is a Pandora’s Box, dude. If he had beaten out Fromm would he still be at this “racist cesspool”. Bet your outraged, civil rights championing azz he would be! The sitting out one season requirement is a safeguard against the “remote” possibility of young athletes getting miffed and leaving. When you recruit and build a roster around certain numbers that’ll devastate some programs. I was all for the obliteration of coaches being able to restrict destinations of transfers but this is different. But hey! When Tulane gets out of the football biz because of this bs, then you’ll be big pimpin with the edits of those “taking their talents to ....”. Congrats.
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the last part of that is completely incoherent. ...congrats.
 
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ChismsHeadband said:
<PLAYER 3 HAS ENTERED THE GAME>

Gotta say one person out of a stadium of 85k being racist doesn't constitute an environment *fostered by the university* that is racially hostile. That one person being a UGA baseball player doesn't affect that *fostered by the university* part a significant amount, but it does blip the radar ever so slightly.

I don't think we can say UGA is a racist environment because it's one out of however many there. If anything, they did the right thing by booting that racist baseball player as soon as the story got out.

That said, if Fields wasn't comfortable there, he wasn't comfortable. "Playing the race card" leads down that same line of thinking that black people are lazy and don't want to work or wait for whatever the goal is, which is a dangerous and disingenuous slope to play on. Sometimes it can be true. Many times there's a legitimate gripe.

This case seems pretty gray to me. The following is how I see it, pure conjecture, who knows.

Fields fell out of love with UGA after the baseball player incident. Make what you will about his playing time, you could tell through his "I handed the ball off good as f---" comment that he wanted to play more. Worth transferring out over before the incident? Only Fields knows. But I don't think it's unreasonable for Fields to hear someone call him the N-word and say "F--- this, I'm out."

Now. The dude is an elite athlete. He's biding his time before he gets draft eligible and then he's going to make some serious dollars. Ohio State has a QB vacuum this year with Haskins and Martell leaving. With as inconsistent, disorganized, and unfocused as the NCAA is, why would you not even try to get that waiver? Are we going to fault him for not wasting more time riding the pine before ultimately showing out and getting paid?

Saying he "played the race card" does put that fault on the player, which I'll argue the blame would be better going to the NCAA due to how much of a joke that their governance is.

I'm not getting heated about this. Maybe Geaux and Bruin can dial it down a little and know that things like this aren't always 0 or 100.
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(1) Fields transferring had zero to do with that incident.

(2) Saying he is “playing the race card” doesn’t suggest anything either way about him being lazy, not wanting to work for it, etc. It just means he is being cynically opportunistic.

(3) UGA is a racist hell-hole. Tell everyone.
 
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drvenner said:
The thing is that none of us knows what the culture is like on campus. I would say it's not awful or more people would leave, but we really have no idea what a given athlete hears or experiences on a given day.
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Well it’s obviously a Klan convention going on down in Athens, and the poor kid had a hearing deficit when he practically lived on the campus during his recruitment.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Love this comment from 247:
“Ansley is an NFL assistant whose NFL team darn sure didn’t want to lose him. He was arguably the Raiders’ best coach last season, when you look at positional improvement throughout the season. Alabama didn’t want to lose him last season, and it tried to bring him back this season as co-defensive coordinator. Georgia reportedly at least kicked the tires for a similar role.”

Ga and Bama wanted him and he said no. Pruitt got him. Says a lot imo
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drylo said:
(1) Fields transferring had zero to do with that incident.

(2) Saying he is “playing the race card” doesn’t suggest anything either way about him being lazy, not wanting to work for it, etc. It just means he is being cynically opportunistic.

(3) UGA is a racist hell-hole. Tell everyone.
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1) There's absolutely NO way that could've been the straw that broke the camel's back?

2) Semantics. It implies using your own race as a shortcut.
 
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butchna said:
Cuz it’ll stop with this one. 😏 Cheer with me when Crouch leaves after the season because of the oppressive rednecks on this totally non-liberal campus.
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No joke at all but if I have a family member at a school that wants to transfer I am hoping on a message board like this and posting a message that "threatens the well being" of that player. I am taking a screen shot and it's going to be used in my appeal

It's really easy to do so
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
You’re my homeboy and all, but here’s my take...

The N word is a horrible word that no white person (or anyone really) should use.

That said, I can’t buy that African Americans find this word to be so offensive and horrible when it’s a constant in their vernacular. And I’m sorry but not pronouncing the r isn’t an excuse for why it’s not only okay but embraced.
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This one is easy to breakdown.
I’m sure youve called a family member something that “only you” could call them.

Now take that same word and let someone outside of your family call that same family member the same thing.

See the difference.
 
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butchna said:
Cuz it’ll stop with this one. 😏 Cheer with me when Crouch leaves after the season because of the oppressive rednecks on this totally non-liberal campus.
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If he wants to leave after one season and gets immediate eligibility good for him. Hopefully he balls out. Ncaa is a terrible organization and players should get way more control over what THEY are allowed to do
 
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Smokey123 said:
If he wants to leave after one season and gets immediate eligibility good for him. Hopefully he balls out. Ncaa is a terrible organization and players should get way more control over what THEY are allowed to do
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Agreed

I think it's time for open transfers and damn I have always been against that
 
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