Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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Geaux_Vols said:
I take exception to the use of "the race card". i don't care one way or another about whether he plays or not, but reducing how the kid may or may not feel about being called that by a uga athlete to "the race card" is just supremely disrespectful, and totally unneeded.
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I really feel for the kid because it’s clear that he really wanted to stay so he could help get all the signals in to Fromm from the sideline, but he just couldn’t get over finding out that some kid apparently called him a naughty word behind his back.
 
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Geaux_Vols said:
I take exception to the use of "the race card". i don't care one way or another about whether he plays or not, but reducing how the kid may or may not feel about being called that by a uga athlete to "the race card" is just supremely disrespectful, and totally unneeded.
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In this case it's crystal clear that Fields used the "race card" in order to get what he wanted. It's obvious he didn't leave Georgia because his "well being was threatened"

That's obvious. Sorry if you don't like the wording used to state the obvious
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
You’re my homeboy and all, but here’s my take...

The N word is a horrible word that no white person (or anyone really) should use.

That said, I can’t buy that African Americans find this word to be so offensive and horrible when it’s a constant in their vernacular. And I’m sorry but not pronouncing the r isn’t an excuse for why it’s not only okay but embraced.
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i'm definitely not the person to explain that, but its complicated subject. there is a difference, and it has nothing to do with the hard "r". but this isn't the place to get in to that.
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
You’re my homeboy and all, but here’s my take...

The N word is a horrible word that no white person (or anyone really) should use.

That said, I can’t buy that African Americans find this word to be so offensive and horrible when it’s a constant in their vernacular. And I’m sorry but not pronouncing the r isn’t an excuse for why it’s not only okay but embraced.
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The thing is that none of us knows what the culture is like on campus. I would say it's not awful or more people would leave, but we really have no idea what a given athlete hears or experiences on a given day.
 
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<PLAYER 3 HAS ENTERED THE GAME>

Gotta say one person out of a stadium of 85k being racist doesn't constitute an environment *fostered by the university* that is racially hostile. That one person being a UGA baseball player doesn't affect that *fostered by the university* part a significant amount, but it does blip the radar ever so slightly.

I don't think we can say UGA is a racist environment because it's one out of however many there. If anything, they did the right thing by booting that racist baseball player as soon as the story got out.

That said, if Fields wasn't comfortable there, he wasn't comfortable. "Playing the race card" leads down that same line of thinking that black people are lazy and don't want to work or wait for whatever the goal is, which is a dangerous and disingenuous slope to play on. Sometimes it can be true. Many times there's a legitimate gripe.

This case seems pretty gray to me. The following is how I see it, pure conjecture, who knows.

Fields fell out of love with UGA after the baseball player incident. Make what you will about his playing time, you could tell through his "I handed the ball off good as f---" comment that he wanted to play more. Worth transferring out over before the incident? Only Fields knows. But I don't think it's unreasonable for Fields to hear someone call him the N-word and say "F--- this, I'm out."

Now. The dude is an elite athlete. He's biding his time before he gets draft eligible and then he's going to make some serious dollars. Ohio State has a QB vacuum this year with Haskins and Martell leaving. With as inconsistent, disorganized, and unfocused as the NCAA is, why would you not even try to get that waiver? Are we going to fault him for not wasting more time riding the pine before ultimately showing out and getting paid?

Saying he "played the race card" does put that fault on the player, which I'll argue the blame would be better going to the NCAA due to how much of a joke that their governance is.

I'm not getting heated about this. Maybe Geaux and Bruin can dial it down a little and know that things like this aren't always 0 or 100.
 
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The "well being of a student athlete"
Doesn't matter whom the threat is coming from.

Could be a fan, a student or another athlete. Doesn't matter who it is
 
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Geaux_Vols said:
Sure it does, because sports attracts some ****** people. And if it was some rando hillybilly, i'm sure nothing would have been done about it. but this was a UGA baseball player, a fellow student athlete. I think there's probably more to it, but THAT'S the public-facing part of it, the tip of the iceberg, and its awful. why do you care if he plays immediately or not, anyway?
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And they kicked him off campus pretty immediately. He continued to play football and his sister signed on TO THE SAME SCHOOL to play softball. Where’s the oppressive environment? Guess if she has a slump her brother blazed a path. This is a Pandora’s Box, dude. If he had beaten out Fromm would he still be at this “racist cesspool”. Bet your outraged, civil rights championing azz he would be! The sitting out one season requirement is a safeguard against the “remote” possibility of young athletes getting miffed and leaving. When you recruit and build a roster around certain numbers that’ll devastate some programs. I was all for the obliteration of coaches being able to restrict destinations of transfers but this is different. But hey! When Tulane gets out of the football biz because of this bs, then you’ll be big pimpin with the edits of those “taking their talents to ....”. Congrats.
 
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