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How's everyone's Saturday night going?

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Velo Vol said:
How's everyone's Saturday night going?

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We went out and ate ribs and steak last night and a big bbq plate tonight , going well . Thanks . Hey is that whole Trump is distroying the country / world thing still going on ?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Stone is such a shameless self promoter. Don't think for a minute that he isn't loving every minute of this. It makes him feel important.
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Obviously he was important enough to send out a couple of SWAT teams as well as calling out CNN to record it for posterity.

He's a dangerous man and all...
 
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RockyTop85 said:
CNN was tipped off. Come on, how is that even a discussion?

People bitching about it sound a lot like Penny Hardaway. Get caught flopping and throw a tantrum about the opposing coach.

Still, they were clearly tipped.
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I'm glad you can admit it.

Now, is such a target really worth sending out such an overwhelming force instead of a couple of senior Agents in suits?
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm glad you can admit it.

Now, is such a target really worth sending out such an overwhelming force instead of a couple of senior Agents in suits?
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I have no idea. Probably not. Law enforcement has an annoying tendency to use unnecessary overwhelming force.

The use of the word “admission” is interesting. Does that suggest that you believe there are people here who believe one thing but post another for partisan reasons?
 
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RockyTop85 said:
I have no idea. Probably not. Law enforcement has an annoying tendency to use unnecessary overwhelming force.

The use of the word “admission” is interesting. Does that suggest that you believe there are people here who believe one thing but post another for partisan reasons?
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Suggest? lol How about "know for a fact"?

Regardless of the "annoying tendency" to use overwhelming force, I think we both can agree this particular instance begs for that question to be asked. It's like you were asking the FBI to go in after Charles Manson and company.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Suggest? lol How about "know for a fact"?

Regardless of the "annoying tendency" to use overwhelming force, I think we both can agree this particular instance begs for that question to be asked. It's like you were asking the FBI to go in after Charles Manson and company.
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Well, that would explain why We’ve got Sherlocks coming out of the woodwork practically saying Mueller picked up the phone and called this CNN guy personally, but they’re the same posters who don’t credit circumstantial evidence against the Trump campaign. (And also explains the ones arguing that CNN wasn’t tipped off.)

I agree with your observation that it’s excessive. Just not sure I see it as evidence of some big conspiracy like others are saying.

A lot of the stuff people complain about happening to the Trump campaign/conspiracy staff are systemic problems. They happen to nearly everybody accused of a crime. They need to be fixed but they were largely created by the same people who voted for Trump so once he’s gone the outcry for criminal law reform will end.

Every case where I’ve seen police serve a warrant in a home looked like this one, I had the same eye roll reaction to a couple of them, but all of them seemed more reasonable at their inception than reenacting a Tom Clancy Novel to go get Roger Stone, who appears physically harmless.

Basically saying I don’t know what the internal policy is. Might be that every take down is done this way. Also not sure whether they had any legit evidence that he was planning to flee. Seems unlikely since he was given bail.
 
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Velo Vol said:
How's everyone's Saturday night going?

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Still afraid of real tweets and using pay BOTs. Tsk tsk. Don’t fear the real tweet since we all pretty much believe as fact you’re a serial Trump stalker 😂

And since it’s still up I’ll call your “I’m afraid he will delete it 😥” FOS excuse the BS it is!

 
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RockyTop85 said:
Well, that would explain why We’ve got Sherlocks coming out of the woodwork practically saying Mueller picked up the phone and called this CNN guy personally, but they’re the same posters who don’t credit circumstantial evidence against the Trump campaign. (And also explains the ones arguing that CNN wasn’t tipped off.)

I agree with your observation that it’s excessive. Just not sure I see it as evidence of some big conspiracy like others are saying.

A lot of the stuff people complain about happening to the Trump campaign/conspiracy staff are systemic problems. They happen to nearly everybody accused of a crime. They need to be fixed but they were largely created by the same people who voted for Trump so once he’s gone the outcry for criminal law reform will end.

Every case where I’ve seen police serve a warrant in a home looked like this one, I had the same eye roll reaction to a couple of them, but all of them seemed more reasonable at their inception than reenacting a Tom Clancy Novel to go get Roger Stone, who appears physically harmless.

Basically saying I don’t know what the internal policy is. Might be that every take down is done this way. Also not sure whether they had any legit evidence that he was planning to flee. Seems unlikely since he was given bail.
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RockyTop85 said:
We’re either speaking different languages, have a very different recollection of Baghdad Bob, or you’re trying too hard.
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Lol I quoted the wrong quote. 😂 I was reading thru the chain and got a “This is the way they’ve always done it” vibe from you but in your wall of text you’re not espousing that theme, rather seemed to think it was excessive but perhaps was policy.

I don’t agree with the policy speculation, but it’s just that speculation. That kind of force response sets the prosecution’s desired perception of the defendant. Luckily in Stone’s case he can’t keep his mouth shut ever so we’ll get LOTS of multiple takes before his first appearance!
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Lol I quoted the wrong quote. 😂 I was reading thru the chain and got a “This is the way they’ve always done it” vibe from you but in your wall of text you’re not espousing that theme, rather seemed to think it was excessive but perhaps was policy.

I don’t agree with the policy speculation, but it’s just that speculation. That kind of force response sets the prosecution’s desired perception of the defendant. Luckily in Stone’s case he can’t keep his mouth shut ever so we’ll get LOTS of multiple takes before his first appearance!
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Yeah I’m totally speculating on the policy. Local law enforcement probably wouldn’t bother arresting a non-violent older rich white guy who isn’t dealing drugs, like Roger Stone, unless it made the news and he wasn’t turning himself in.

The more I think about it, the more I think it was probably set up to be a spectacle. I read that they had to ask the judge for some special procedure to keep it sealed until they served it on him because he’s a flight risk or might destroy evidence, but then the judge let him out on bond which means he’s not a flight risk. Can’t imagine there’s a ton of evidence in his house.

I have 0 sympathy for Roger Stone. He’s basically the political version of a sleazy televangelist. This does look like the OSC was being petty, at best.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Yeah I’m totally speculating on the policy. Local law enforcement probably wouldn’t bother arresting a non-violent older rich white guy who isn’t dealing drugs, like Roger Stone, unless it made the news and he wasn’t turning himself in.

The more I think about it, the more I think it was probably set up to be a spectacle. I read that they had to ask the judge for some special procedure to keep it sealed until they served it on him because he’s a flight risk or might destroy evidence, but then the judge let him out on bond which means he’s not a flight risk. Can’t imagine there’s a ton of evidence in his house.

I have 0 sympathy for Roger Stone. He’s basically the political version of a sleazy televangelist. This does look like the OSC was being petty, at best.
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I find the signature note release pretty significant. That tells me the judge sees zero risk there.

And he’s been under investigation for two years. If they get a treasure trove of information from that bust he’s the stupidest white collar criminal ever.
 
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Watching “This Week” on ABC right now.
David Bossie is on a tear about the DNC paying for the fake dossier. Sitting immediately to his left with a stone face, Donna Brazile 🤣🤣🤣
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I find the signature note release pretty significant. That tells me the judge sees zero risk there.

And he’s been under investigation for two years. If they get a treasure trove of information from that bust he’s the stupidest white collar criminal ever.
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A Dirty tricksters might just keep leveraging materials.
 
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