Targeting, Overtime Rule Changes

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No football fan in their right mind wants a referee trying to determine intent.

Did anyone here see the Texas A&M vs. LSU game? Could that game have been more exciting? Did anyone outside of a Patriots fan think last Sunday's AFC Championship game ending was better? I say leave the OT rules alone.
 
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99gator said:
Overtime rules need to mirror the NFL.

Targeting rule (because it’s here to stay) should not lead to ejection. I don’t think it’s a good idea having them guess intent

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Not a fan of NFL overtime rule at all. Really think the team on D first deserves a chance to match.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
So there will basically be a 2 try shoot out then play an extra quarter? I'm missing something.
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No, same rules currently in place for the NCAA just you must go for two with a TD score. If the game is still Tide after two OT periods the third OT would be NFL rules. You know the NFL OT rules, correct?
 
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College OT, just start at the 50 or kickoff from the 10. Only 2 pt conversation.

NFL OT, both get ball.

Targeting, no ejection unless they are hitting with the crown of their helmet.

Inadvertent targeting due to the offensive player lowering their head creating helmet to helmet no penalty.

Illegal formation and offsides should all stop the play like false starts.

There shouldn’t be “free” plays.
 
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If the refs called targeting consistently across every game for every team, Bama wouldn't have a defense to put on the field. They seem to lead with their helmets and make head to head contact almost every tackle. Other teams can have a good clean hit with the shoulder, and that player is gone.
 
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99gator said:
That possibility is there with any personal foul though.

A d-lineman going for a qb’s knees doesn’t get ejected.

I can see the other side.

My issue is that the vast, vast majority of targeting calls were not what was intended to be eliminated. It’s not a safety lining up a kill shot on a wr.

It’s typically guys trying to make a tackle and in a split second the offensive player moves or something happens and it’s a helmet to helmet hit.

So, it’s been very rare where I saw a game and thought the player needed to be tossed.
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they could easily remove auto ejection from targeting rule and cover egregious stuff with unsportmanlike conduct? but targeting rule is leading to very sloppy tackling because defenders are always worried what if this guy dips his head? If the offensive player dips his head it ain't targeting but most of the targeting plays I have seen are exactly that defensive player had already committed then offensive player drops his shoulder/head bracing for blow.
 
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99gator said:
Overtime rules need to mirror the NFL.

Targeting rule (because it’s here to stay) should not lead to ejection. I don’t think it’s a good idea having them guess intent

JMO
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Mirror the nfl?? Those are the most ridiculous OT rules by far3
 
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CTVolsfan14 said:
The targeting rule is, IMO, the worst rule in all of sports. They must do something about the injections piece of it.

And to be honest, I know I'm in the minority here, but I think the college OT needs to be twerked. I personally would keep the same format as it seems to be popular, but move the ball back to the 50 for both teams. At least make the teams earn a field goal.
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THERE'S NO TWERKING IN FOOTBALL!!!

lol
 
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VetVol said:
"Apparently, the NCAA is semi coming to their senses. They have an oversight committee that will explore the possibility of adjusting rules that govern targeting and overtime. Looks like the may categorize hits. Were they maliciously or unmaliciously intentional? "

So are you saying that these plays will no longer be considered illegal?


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What about this?

 
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Maybe NCAA could use the old OT rule for flag football. Put the ball on the 50 and alternate offensive plays until each team has ran 4. After 4 plays each if the ball is on your side of the 50, you lose! lol
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
They need to leave the overtime rules alone
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It might be better to have them start at the 30 or 35 yard line, but the basic format is good. In a somewhat related area, I think that if a team has timeouts remaining at the end of the half or end of regulation for a game going into overtime, they should be able to carry one (and only one) timeout into the next period.
 
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99gator said:
What I don’t like about college OT rules is that you are no longer playing football at that point. You are doing something else. There’s no special teams (other than Fg). Defense is already playing with the offense in scoring territory, etc.

NFL rules more resemble typical game play.
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My crazy idea that will never get adopted.... Every OT period starts with the defense punting from the goal line.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
I think that they should start from the 30 and kick the extra point, 2nd should start from the 25 and go for 2, 3rd should start from the 20 and go for 2, etc. I think that if you start far enough back, you give the D a chance to stop for a long field goal and that the field goal would be long enough to make it difficult. Could have OT's ending with only 3 points scored and 8 plays run. Short and sweet.

Or adopt the Pro Rules and let ties happen except in championship games and playoffs.
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I think about 35 because that would be a 52 yard FG if team can’t get a 1st down.
 
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If a game ends in a tie, then give BOTH teams a loss. You be amazed how few games end that way.
 
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Zues1 said:
No, same rules currently in place for the NCAA just you must go for two with a TD score. If the game is still Tide after two OT periods the third OT would be NFL rules. You know the NFL OT rules, correct?
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I do but not sure you do....
 
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TVOL71 said:
It might be better to have them start at the 30 or 35 yard line, but the basic format is good. In a somewhat related area, I think that if a team has timeouts remaining at the end of the half or end of regulation for a game going into overtime, they should be able to carry one (and only one) timeout into the next period.
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I'm good with starting from midfield. Otherwise leave it alone.

Interesting idea on the timeouts
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Apparently, the NCAA is semi coming to their senses. They have an oversight committee that will explore the possibility of adjusting rules that govern targeting and overtime. Looks like the may categorize hits. Were they maliciously or unmaliciously intentional? Overtime will be looked at for ways to avoid having games go into extended overtime sessions where player safety would be in jeopardy.

Not sure why I seem to smell some Saban in the OT thing. Cause I have a VERY vague recollection of him whining about it.
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it's just easy to blame Saban for everything wrong in the NCAA when you can't beat him.....

But a lot of folks don't like the format. Now we don't like sudden death, and we don't like 5 OT games.....

I say keep the format but eliminate FGs during the OT period. No team wins until a TD is scored.
 
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MikeVol44 said:
it's just easy to blame Saban for everything wrong in the NCAA when you can't beat him.....

But a lot of folks don't like the format. Now we don't like sudden death, and we don't like 5 OT games.....

I say keep the format but eliminate FGs during the OT period. No team wins until a TD is scored.
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With no FG it takes some of thinking out of it. Kind of like the DH in baseball.
 
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