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HankHill said:
Ticket prices are ridiculous anyway for a family of 4 to watch a game at Neyland you’ll be laying grand. Then it’s an all day event. Why do that when you can have friends over and play 100$ for all the pizza and beer you can drink and watch other games too?
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Trust me, I really am thinking about that.
 
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butchna said:
Year. Best EVER requires more. And I’d counter that the TD record that Moss beat (barely) in 16 games where Belichick was playing his starters full games after they’d clinched long before, all in the pursuit of an undefeated season and Brady’s record as well? Rice set that record in 12 games due to the strike...sobering.
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Agree. But you also have to consider who rice QBs were.
 
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SLICKYINC said:
2 teams from the south have to travel to California for the championship game. Fans aint got time for that.

They should somehow figure a more central location in the future.
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Back to back travel weeks which include airfare is just not going to happen for me.
 
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triadvolfan said:
That and they're being asked to travel back to back weeks. Even if fans have the money some of them have to go back to work. Having teams play in 2 neutral site playoff games is a bit ridiculous.
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I remember several years ago when a playoff and its details were being debated. One of the concerns was asking fans to travel back to back (to back) weeks. Would they do it in sufficient numbers? On the other hand, I don't think this is a fair reasonable test. If it was in the southeast as most bowl games are there would be no problem.

And then there's this: why are we judging a game based on the unfilled expectation that AFTERMARKET ticket prices are in the thousands of dollars? Currently the average is ONLY five-hundred and something. I get it. But it's sad that some would deem it a failure because fans won't pay ridiculously jacked-up prices. When I attended our NC game in AZ in 99, I bought my ticket there. I paid face value, $100. That game was not a failure. Perhaps somebody has gotten a little greedy.
 
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HankHill said:
Ticket prices are ridiculous anyway for a family of 4 to watch a game at Neyland you’ll be laying grand. Then it’s an all day event. Why do that when you can have friends over and play 100$ for all the pizza and beer you can drink and watch other games too?
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Yeah, I normally sell my tickets every year....at least this past year and the 17 season. When you have a nice tv and room to watch football, it just seems easier and more comfortable to watch them at home and grill.
 
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HankHill said:
One year the defense could tackle someone, one year they couldn’t.
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Losing six starters on D for most of the year had something to do with that. However, critical parts of a few games the O went to crap when they needed to put the game away or score at the end had much more to do with the frustration than overall stats.
 
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engineerVOL said:
SIAP...



Between this and the massive ratings drop I’d say college football is not meant for playoffs. I’ll be glad when it’s changed. More games is not the answer.
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Having the same championship game year after year after year is not a good way to go about it, either. But, the NCAA gets what they want.
 
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engineerVOL said:
These title games always seems to have lame crowds too. Who can afford to travel like this for more games? I want to go back to one game and preserve the integrity of the other bowls.

Naming a champ shouldn’t be this demanding. There’s over a 100 teams, dozens of conferences. Conference championships are the most important thing. I don’t like playoffs.

And if we’re honest college football is a bad product outside of the conferences.
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Every major sport is pricing themselves out of the market especially the NBA and MLB. I took my son to see the Braves play, which is one of the cheapest tickets in all professional sports, and it cost me about $300 for the day for a crappy day game opponent. If you wanted to take a family to an NBA/NFL to a decent game with decent seats would easily cost $1k in total expenses. Most people simply cannot afford that and quite frankly it’s much more comfortable/convenient/affordable to watch from home. Don’t tell the players that though because salaries haven’t really adjusted and neither have TV contracts but they will eventually
 
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landscapingvol said:
Every major sport is pricing themselves out of the market especially the NBA and MLB. I took my son to see the Braves play, which is one of the cheapest tickets in all professional sports, and it cost me about $300 for the day for a crappy day game opponent. If you wanted to take a family to an NBA/NFL to a decent game with decent seats would easily cost $1k in total expenses. Most people simply cannot afford that and quite frankly it’s much more comfortable/convenient/affordable to watch from home. Don’t tell the players that though because salaries haven’t really adjusted and neither have TV contracts but they will eventually
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Price isn’t the issue. The whole thing with the natty is location.

Both fan bases have to fly across country and stay in a hotel in the most expensive city in the country.
 
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JacketVol said:
Put in 17. Still in the fans minds.
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landscapingvol said:
Every major sport is pricing themselves out of the market especially the NBA and MLB. I took my son to see the Braves play, which is one of the cheapest tickets in all professional sports, and it cost me about $300 for the day for a crappy day game opponent. If you wanted to take a family to an NBA/NFL to a decent game with decent seats would easily cost $1k in total expenses. Most people simply cannot afford that and quite frankly it’s much more comfortable/convenient/affordable to watch from home. Don’t tell the players that though because salaries haven’t really adjusted and neither have TV contracts but they will eventually
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I keep waiting for the prices to crash. Some of us just don't have that kind of money. It is sad that I can't afford to take the whole family to a game anymore. I remember when I could ( and often did ). Always thought I would have season tickets as an adult. That dream died some time ago.
 
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jakez4ut said:
emmet, emmit, who cares. :) i'd love to say he sucked, but even i can't get myself to go there. so like i said, Payton is the best i've ever seen. Emmet, with an e, is #2. i just don't think emmet is the HOF'er he turned out to be w/out the rest of that offense around him.

that doesn't mean he's not great. but let's be honest....it's not a stretch to say that great TEAMS are made up of great PLAYERS.

take that O line away, take the WR's and Troy away....is Emmet even in this discussion? no way to know, but imo, he's not. Payton on the other hand...special on his own, and did it on some not so good Bears teams for a farily long time.
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You take that OL away, and he’d have made others just as good. Was at Kirtland AFB arguing with others (actual Cowboys fans) who wanted Steve Buerlein as the starter. Cowboys could have won a Super Bowl with Buerlein...prolly not 3. Irvin was great...even better because defenses got beat up by the running game. They win that first Super Bowl and Jerry played hardball with Emmitt In negotiations...never got close to the end of an Aikman contract...Emmitt sits out first two games of the season and the other running backs can’t combine for 50 yards behind that great OL and that great team flounders in two bad losses...missing only ONE player. Paid the man his money and they had their dynasty. As a Bears fan, it’s funny being educated about Walter Payton. No doubt greatness. We’re not dealing with IF’s. If the Bears had their **** together before 84 and could have put a playoff team around him? Who’s to know what the numbers would be? He did get sole focus of the offense because there was no one else. Main reason he got the carries to get those yards. Getting those carries and yards in WINNING efforts didn’t start til 84 and halfway through the Super Bowl season he wasn’t the focus of the offense anymore and was a virtual decoy by the Super Bowl. The unknown. IF medical technology wasn’t medieval concerning knees, maybe Gale Sayers has an insurmountable number of yards in that short HOF career. Original question was who would you take. No quarrel with anyone choosing Sanders. Mine is with the completely wrong mindset that Emmitt Smith was the beneficiary of greatness instead of the provider. I doubted the man every step of his career. Visited my sister in Pensacola when her husband was stationed there, the summer before Smith’s freshman year at Florida. My bro in law predicted failure for the local legend and knew he’d be exposed at the next level...dominated immediately! Doubled down when it came time for that draft and the Cowboy fanatic my sister married was lock step again with me and convinced that Jimmy Johnson was clueless. Hated the Celtics, hated Bill Walsh’s Niners, hated the Cowboys with Emmitt and hate the Bill Belichick/Tom Brady Patriots now. I don’t argue with historical greatness.
 
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butchna said:
You take that OL away, and he’d have made others just as good. Was at Kirkland AFB arguing with others (actual Cowboys fans) who wanted Steve Buerlein as the starter. Cowboys could have won a Super Bowl with Buerlein...prolly not 3. Irvin was great...even better because defenses got beat up by the running game. They win that first Super Bowl and Jerry played hardball with Emmitt In negotiations...never got close to the end of an Aikman contract...Emmitt sits out first two games of the season and the other running backs can’t combine for 50 yards behind that great OL and that great team flounders...missing only ONE player. Paid the man his money and they had their dynasty. As a Bears fan, it’s funny being educated about Walter Payton. No doubt greatness. We’re not dealing with IF’s. If the Bears had their **** together before 84 and could have put a playoff team around him? Who’s to know what the numbers would be? He did get sole focus of the offense because there was no one else. Main reason he got the carries to get those yards. Getting those carries and yards in WINNING efforts didn’t start til 84 and halfway through the Super Bowl season he wasn’t the focus of the offense anymore and was a virtual decoy by the Super Bowl. The unknown. IF medical technology wasn’t medieval concerning knees, maybe Gale Sayers has an insurmountable number of yards in that short HOF career. Original question was who would you take. No quarrel with anyone choosing Sanders. Mine is with the completely wrong mindset that Emmitt Smith was the beneficiary of greatness instead of the provider. I doubted the man every step of his career. Visited my sister in Pensacola when her husband was stationed there, the summer before Smith’s freshman year at Florida. My bro in law predicted failure for the local legend and knew he’d be exposed at the next level...dominated immediately! Doubled down when it came time for that draft and the Cowboy fanatic my sister married was lock step again with me and convinced that Jimmy Johnson was clueless. Hated the Celtics, hated Bill Walsh’s Niners, hated the Cowboys with Emmitt and hate the Bill Belichick/Tom Brady Patriots now. I don’t argue with historical greatness.
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holy paragraph batman!!
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Price isn’t the issue. The whole thing with the natty is location.

Both fan bases have to fly across country and stay in a hotel in the most expensive city in the country.
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Maybe not this game per se but it is definitely a major issue in declining attendance for all major sports. It’s a trend not a blip on the radar.
 
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