If we get “Will Grier’d“ in the upcoming years

#77
#77
Heck, we even had guys mail it in for the last game (I am talking at you Tyler Bray) so they wouldn't have to play in a bowl game.
 
#78
#78
As fans, most don’t know the first thing about the true cost of playing D1 football or what they have at stake when deciding to play or not yet evidently some here feel imminently qualified to decide upon whom they will bestow the coveted VFL status.

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#79
#79
If your gonna sit out a bowlgame why play games 9 thru 12. Just as likely to get hurt. Why have bowl games if they are meaningless as some are saying. Bunch of pussified skinny jean wearing hipsters.
 
#80
#80
Why don’t we ask Jaylon Smith who almost lost his career and chance at millions (and did lose millions) because he played in a meaningless bowl game.

Maybe if the NCAA correctly paid these players what they are worth this wouldn’t be an issue. But they don’t. So yes you should sit out. Coaches get 5 digit incentives if they win a bowl game. Players get maybe $1,000 worth of swag. How the hell is that fair?

We can say 'what if' they were healthy about any professional athlete. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Joe Montana missed whole season's due to injury. Ken Griffey Jr. might have been the best all-time.
 
#81
#81
We can say 'what if' they were healthy about any professional athlete. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Joe Montana missed whole season's due to injury. Ken Griffey Jr. might have been the best all-time.

Your point makes no sense. All those guys already made their millions when they got hurt. Jaylon Smith hadn’t.
 
#82
#82
I would seriously question the mentality of NFL-caliber players who did choose to play in meaningless bowl games (virtually all of them). The concept of "VFL" is total BS by the way.
 
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Heck, we even had guys mail it in for the last game (I am talking at you Tyler Bray) so they wouldn't have to play in a bowl game.

Studies have shown that "talking at" someone isn't as effective as speaking with someone.
 
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#85
I predicted this growing phenomena years ago. When ESPN pushed for a 4-team playoff system, I said the "lower bowls" would basically become obsolete (except for the TV revenue) and players with immediate NFL potential would opt out. Why play and risk a career-ending injury? Just start early preparing for the combine. If the NFL truly appreciated and respected the pipeline of college football, they would look down on/comment on players leaving their team with the season undone. Besides that, if they do it in college - why not do it in the pros? If your pro team is sitting at 8-7 with little chance of making the playoffs, why play that 16th game? Do what you did in college.
 
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#86
Lower bowls have always been meaningless. Only bowls that really mean that anything before BCS was the teams that were being voted on for NC.
 
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#87
Anyone ever consider that teammates or coaches might want somebody not to play for the good of them? Not saying this is always the case but every scenario is different in my opinion. Also if somebody has been playing banged up I don’t blame them at all for taking the bowl game off to physically get ready for the combine and pro days
 
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#88
As long as it isn’t a playoff or title game I don’t care if they sit. Bowl games are meaningless. There are too many and at that point the season has been decided and many of the players that do play aren’t giving their all. It’s a free vacation and some free gear.
These are kids that are putting their hopes and dreams on the line for free and asking them to risk a shot at being a high draft pick or even any shot to make the NFL for an exhibition game is just stupid. Let the seniors that have no shot at the NFL and the under class get some playing time. Don’t bash those that have a lifelong dream and millions of dollars at risk for not wanting to play in a game that means absolutely nothing.
 
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#89
The thing about this argument that makes no sense to me, if you are so worried about getting hurt why don't you sit out every game after your team loses it's second game? At that point you are basically eliminated from playoff contention so why take the risk of playing another 3-4 or so extra meaningless games? If the low tier bowl is a worthless games then aren't the games to get to said bowl equally meaningless?
 
#91
#91
IT depends on the bowl. If we are playing in a new years 6 or in the playoffs, then yes would be upset. If we are not in those, then I don't blame someone who is a 1st or 2nd rounder for not taking chances. Besides I think for a bowl game when you are 6-6 or 7-5 you should use that time to get reps for the players that will be there the next year.
 
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#92
I believe the NCAA needs to make a rule to cover this situation.

Example...If a player, Junior or Senior, is projected to be drafted in the 1st or 2nd round of the NFL draft or if the player is a graduating Senior that has no more playing time left then those players deserve to have some guaranteed protection in place in case of a injury that will prevent them from playing for 6 months or more.

In that case then the BIG $$$$ boosters of that school are allowed to buy a insurance policy of at least $2 Million or more to give the player(s) some assurance of a good lifestyle for their future.

With at least $2 Million, tax free cash in the bank then anyone can manage that cash to be taken care of and not suffer for the rest of their life.

The BIG $$$ boosters won't even feel the minor cost of a insurance policy and the players and their families can relax, enjoy the bowl game and know that if something really bad happens then they're all going to fine.

In some cases a larger insurance policy coverage can be taken care of by the BIG $$$ boosters if that's deemed needed.

This is the easiest way I can think of to make everyone happy.

I don't like seeing college players sitting out because it disrespects their teammates, coaches and fans.

I also understand that the players may fear losing BIG $$$ if they should get hurt badly.

Get the kids some insurance and tell them to go strap it up and show all the NFL people that will be watching how much higher they should be selected in the NFL draft.

VFL...GBO!!!
 
#93
#93
I understand why they do this, because playing in an ultimately meaningless bowl game gives you a chance at a bad injury that could either hamper your ability in the combine and pro day, or worse... It is frustrating, but if it's not for a national championship game or something else highly meaningful, I am okay with it because if I was in their shoes, a "nothing to gain and everything to lose" should be avoided.

I can understand to a point of them sitting out a bowl game. But on the other hand they would not be in a position to get drafted in nfl if it were not for getting a scholarship to play football. So in a sense I feel they owe it to the team. They wouldn't be where they are without them.
 
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Basically if we have a star player sit out the bowl game, and it ends up costing us the game, how we will view that player going forward? Will we still refer to them as “VFL”? Does it depend on the extent of the bowl?

Just curious as to how the masses of VN will feel, because I’m sure it’s going to happen to us at some point.

While you can't exactly "enslave" or force a player to play; as far as I'm concerned, it is an act of bad faith by players. Maybe the bowls should put in some clauses giving them the right to dis-invite or otherwise penalize a team if the absence of key players makes the team unrepresentative of the team that was worthy of the bowl invitation. Think of what might happen if concert goers went to see "Star" of "Star and the No Talents" if Star decided not to show up ... to rest his/ her voice for something better.
 
#95
#95
Basically if we have a star player sit out the bowl game, and it ends up costing us the game, how we will view that player going forward? Will we still refer to them as “VFL”? Does it depend on the extent of the bowl?

Just curious as to how the masses of VN will feel, because I’m sure it’s going to happen to us at some point.

Are you referring to Jalen Hurts pending transfer to BYU?
 
#96
#96
I believe the NCAA needs to make a rule to cover this situation.

Example...If a player, Junior or Senior, is projected to be drafted in the 1st or 2nd round of the NFL draft or if the player is a graduating Senior that has no more playing time left then those players deserve to have some guaranteed protection in place in case of a injury that will prevent them from playing for 6 months or more.

In that case then the BIG $$$$ boosters of that school are allowed to buy a insurance policy of at least $2 Million or more to give the player(s) some assurance of a good lifestyle for their future.

With at least $2 Million, tax free cash in the bank then anyone can manage that cash to be taken care of and not suffer for the rest of their life.

The BIG $$$ boosters won't even feel the minor cost of a insurance policy and the players and their families can relax, enjoy the bowl game and know that if something really bad happens then they're all going to fine.

In some cases a larger insurance policy coverage can be taken care of by the BIG $$$ boosters if that's deemed needed.

This is the easiest way I can think of to make everyone happy.

I don't like seeing college players sitting out because it disrespects their teammates, coaches and fans.

I also understand that the players may fear losing BIG $$$ if they should get hurt badly.

Get the kids some insurance and tell them to go strap it up and show all the NFL people that will be watching how much higher they should be selected in the NFL draft.

VFL...GBO!!!


That is a very good idea.
 
#97
#97
I believe the NCAA needs to make a rule to cover this situation.

Example...If a player, Junior or Senior, is projected to be drafted in the 1st or 2nd round of the NFL draft or if the player is a graduating Senior that has no more playing time left then those players deserve to have some guaranteed protection in place in case of a injury that will prevent them from playing for 6 months or more.

In that case then the BIG $$$$ boosters of that school are allowed to buy a insurance policy of at least $2 Million or more to give the player(s) some assurance of a good lifestyle for their future.

With at least $2 Million, tax free cash in the bank then anyone can manage that cash to be taken care of and not suffer for the rest of their life.

The BIG $$$ boosters won't even feel the minor cost of a insurance policy and the players and their families can relax, enjoy the bowl game and know that if something really bad happens then they're all going to fine.

In some cases a larger insurance policy coverage can be taken care of by the BIG $$$ boosters if that's deemed needed.

This is the easiest way I can think of to make everyone happy.

I don't like seeing college players sitting out because it disrespects their teammates, coaches and fans.

I also understand that the players may fear losing BIG $$$ if they should get hurt badly.

Get the kids some insurance and tell them to go strap it up and show all the NFL people that will be watching how much higher they should be selected in the NFL draft.

VFL...GBO!!!
I like your idea since I’m not a big shot booster. Spending other people’s money is fun. Wait a minute, does that make me a socialist ??
 
#99
#99
Basically if we have a star player sit out the bowl game, and it ends up costing us the game, how we will view that player going forward? Will we still refer to them as “VFL”? Does it depend on the extent of the bowl?

Just curious as to how the masses of VN will feel, because I’m sure it’s going to happen to us at some point.

Will has a baby and milf to feed...
 
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