Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[Vols4us]

The speed of the game has changed through the years, it is much faster. However, the technique with tackling has deteriorated. It's all about make the big hit now. Until they whiff or the ballcarrier bounces off and keeps running. Back in the 60's, 70's and 80's players were trained to keep their heads up no matter the situation or side of the ball. On D you would square up if you had the angle, head up and to the side of the chest area, and wrap while driving through the tackle with your legs. Running backs/receivers/QB's were trained to never lower their heads - ever. They do it more times than not now.

It's all in the rules, coaching, and how the officials enforce it. They can change it back if they want to bad enough. It's ridiculous how they handle it all now.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I think Matt Campbell has a great future ahead of him. He would not have been a bad hire, maybe the wrong hire at the wrong time, but not a bad hire. This dude is a good football coach.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

The speed of the game has changed through the years, it is much faster. However, the technique with tackling has deteriorated. It's all about make the big hit now. Until they whiff or the ballcarrier bounces off and keeps running. Back in the 60's, 70's and 80's players were trained to keep their heads up no matter the situation or side of the ball. On D you would square up if you had the angle, head up and to the side of the chest area, and wrap while driving through the tackle with your legs. Running backs/receivers/QB's were trained to never lower their heads - ever. They do it more times than not now.

It's all in the rules, coaching, and how the officials enforce it. They can change it back if they want to bad enough. It's ridiculous how they handle it all now.

Tackling is still taught to either have your facemask in the ball carriers, ball side or in the center of the ball carriers chest while wrapping up and driving through the ball carrier.

The kids just aren’t doing it. A lot of kids go low for the legs. Because of how big players are nowadays.

 

[Orange Studs]

@SamRebel35 Sam I’ve been meaning to ask you is your profile pic Leon Russell?

I was going to ask the same thing. lol I believe it is.

 

[SamRebel35]

Not really. Don't be an a**hat. Pretty easy. The penalty happened during the play, so must be assessed as such. Why can't kids just act like they have been there before? Act like it's just business? You don't have to showboat. Be civil, celebrate with your team and go on.

There isn't a single other unsportsmanlike penalty that factors in the location of the penalty. They are always assessed after the play. It is arbitrary, dumb, and inconsistent with the other rules on the same topic. Add to it that it is disproportionately harsh. Taking points away during a play in which the taunt made no difference in the outcome of the play is arbitrary and pointless.

 

[engineerVOL]

Leon Russell is good stuff.

I had no idea who he was. I had a job to perform an inspection at his house in Hermitage. Very cool house. Afterwards I looked him up, it’s pretty easy listening. Before my time, but classic sound. He died in 2016.

 

[kayakonthefly]

I do agree about that, negating the TD is stupid. The penalty should have been enforced on EP or kickoff.

Penalty happened before the touchdown (around the 15 to goal line), so theoretically it shouldn't count as a touchdown. Unsportsmanlike on celebrations are after the touchdown, so the touchdown stands. Don't know if anything exists where a offensive penalty occurs before a touchdown and the touchdown counts. If it does than maybe it should count.

Edit: Welp, should have read ahead. This is already discussed. Carry on.

 

[SamRebel35]

@SamRebel35 Sam I’ve been meaning to ask you is your profile pic Leon Russell?

Yes it is. Loved that guy's music.

 

[Orange Studs]

I had no idea who he was. I had a job to perform an inspection at his house in Hermitage. Very cool house. Afterwards I looked him up, it’s pretty easy listening. Before my time, but classic sound. He died in 2016.

Saw him perform in the outfield of Ingle Stadium when I was in my real early teens.

 

[InVOLuntary]

What a catch.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

This targeting crap in this game is stupid stupid stupid..these refs are garbage.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Sorry I'm watching about an hour behind you guys.

 

[SamRebel35]

Huh.. I would call you an idiot but that would get my comment deleted for name calling.

Compelling argument. I imagine you're currently congratulating yourself for being able to come up with such a sick burn.

 

[orangesoda]

I hope Yurcich doesn’t go to Ohio state.

Yurcich was never coming here!!!

 

[BearCat204]

Yurcich was never coming here!!!

Quoted for future use

 

[orangesoda]

Quoted for future use

Yep!

 

[InVOLuntary]

Quoted for future use

Screen shot it and post it just for good measure.

 

[SamRebel35]

Yes..... but in reality that was said because I had a post deleted earlier for name calling where I said idiot. I don't agree with your sentiment but don't feel like typing it all out so I will agree to disagree.

Generally, the one claiming to not want to waste effort typing a rebuttal, and then saying "agree to disagree" does not have a position founded on solid reasoning. You may agree to disagree, but I'm just going to go ahead and claim the "W" on this one. Thanks. And don't bother responding. We're done here.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I love San Antonio.

 

[volatil]

Screen shot it and post it just for good measure.

Got it. Just in case this thing goes sideways we have proof.

 

[SamRebel35]

Got it. Just in case this thing goes sideways we have proof.View attachment 185922

So self deprecating.

 

[VolsFan-TX]

Tackling is still taught to either have your facemask in the ball carriers, ball side or in the center of the ball carriers chest while wrapping up and driving through the ball carrier.

The kids just aren’t doing it. A lot of kids go low for the legs. Because of how big players are nowadays.

Some coaches, like Carroll in Seattle, are teaching a style of rugby tackling. While watching the Seattle vs Dallas game this year, the Seahawks defense made a number of terrific stops. I don’t watch Seattle often, but I thought their tackling in that game was excellent. VN discussed this type of tackling before and I think some links were posted, but here are two about Seattle’s style.

The Seahawks' dominating defense uses a safer rugby style of tackling, and it could change the NFL

 

[Sleegro]

Got it. Just in case this thing goes sideways we have proof.View attachment 185922

Looks like it already went sideways.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Some coaches, like Carroll in Seattle, are teaching a style of rugby tackling. While watching the Seattle vs Dallas game this year, the Seahawks defense made a number of terrific stops. I don’t watch Seattle often, but I thought their tackling in that game was excellent. VN discussed this type of tackling before and I think some links were posted, but here are two about Seattle’s style.

The Seahawks' dominating defense uses a safer rugby style of tackling, and it could change the NFL

That is not just rugby style tackling though. That is how tackling was always supposed to be taught. That’s exactly how I was taught to tackle.

 

[VolsFan-TX]

That is not just rugby style tackling though. That is how tackling was always supposed to be taught. That’s exactly how I was taught to tackle.

A lot of kids are taught to place your facemask
on your opponents chest and then slide it to one side while wrapping up.