Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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nicksjuzunk said:
Forgive me for skipping the past 34 pages, but I’ve got limited battery the next 36 hours while traveling and know it’s 90% tears and moans from ESD.

Can anyone give me anything worth hearing from the last 8 hours?

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We gained nothing.
But we didn't lose anything either.

There were literally no surprises fire us today, good or bad.

Fitz is staying.
 
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I feel good about this class. We’ll add Gray tomorrow. By all accounts it seems that Crouch is signing with us on Friday. We are way out front for Wright. We add those guys we have the 2nd best class in the east and we still have several spots left to fill with some other big targets out there. This will be a really good class come February and better than the other classes in the east imo except for GA.
 
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SLICKYINC said:
I agree with this. I feel like Neids and the QC guys do more work than the position coaches. Something seems weird with that...
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Yeah. And I think that's one reason he wants a good recruiter for OC.

As good as a lot of these guys are, it seems there's ground to make up here. And I think Pruitt knows it.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Yea, I meant to add that this is not a bad team. They've been good this year and are very well coached.
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Barnes was singing their praises the other night on Vol Calls. I mean when he was throwing shade at Penny.

This team went the distance with Belmont losing 99-93. Same Belmont team beat UCLA.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I feel good about this class. We’ll add Gray tomorrow. By all accounts it seems that Crouch is signing with us on Friday. We are way out front for Wright. We add those guys we have the 2nd best class in the east and we still have several spots left to feel with some other big targets out there. This will be a really good class come February and better than the other classes in the east imo except for GA.
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Truth. This class is about needs.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Forgive me for skipping the past 34 pages, but I’ve got limited battery the next 36 hours while traveling and know it’s 90% tears and moans from ESD.

Can anyone give me anything worth hearing from the last 8 hours?

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We signed who we had committed today.

Kept Fitz.

OC search...
we_aint_found_shit.gif
 
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jakez4ut said:
Yeah. And I think that's one reason he wants a good recruiter for OC.

Add good as a lot of these guys are, it seems there's ground to make up here. And I think Pruitt knows it.
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Yup, they might be great coaches but something just isn’t adding up. Especially considering all of the relationships they supposedly had with a bunch of the bigger targets.
 
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coskramer said:
Does anyone know why Harris and Cox didn't sign today? Cox rearrirmed his commitment to TN a few days ago. We know why on Henry. Some have said Cox might not be part of the class. Did the TN staff tell Cox not to sign today?
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Cox is probably a blue shirt candidate in this class.
 
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I think there's probably some specific people that need to a better job recruiting. And some tweaking of some overall strategy.

Obviously I don't know what their board looks like. But I think if you get to the last weekend and you're reaching for positions of need like we were, something went sideways.

How did we not get Noah Cain on campus before now? How did we get that far in to bogles recruitment without accounting for the family tie issue? Was that time spent what maybe cost us eboigbe?

Siap regarding Brown and Anderson, and how they were handled.

Any way just some thoughts. I don't think it's the type of players we target. Had a lot more to do with "the how".

And obviously we have some really good recruiters... But they all need to be on the same page if they're going to get better results across the board.

I think CJP touched on this in his press conference by saying that they would look at quality control to see who signed for what reason and who didn't sign and why.
 
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millst987 said:
If we get the big 3 we have left, that’s a really really good class
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What really ****ing sucks is that the rich just keep on getting richer*

On its face, we need top-5 classes just to sniff their jocks. Therefore, a solid foundational class like the one we're signing (5 OL, multiple JUCO DL with 3 years' eligibility, plus 2 other DL) doesn't look all that impressive in comparison, even if it's exactly what we need.

That's one point, and the simplest one that I'm sure a lot of Rocky Top is feeling today. The asterisk below will be a counter point:

*Someone on r/cfb a few years ago (before they started sucking each others a$sholes for cheap fun) posted SEC attrition rates from 2002 through 2013. Basically if you didn't graduate or go pro a year early, it counted as attrition. Even the mighty Alabama saw attrition in the 30-40% range. LSU in their days of making hay, and USCe when they were finishing 10-2 under Spurrier saw attrition rates in the 40-50% range.

Not all of the monsters other schools are signing will stick. They'll add depth, for a while at least, but wait until the foundation gets a little crumbly in spots here and there. These teams (outside of Alabama and maybe UGA--- UGA is still a 'maybe') will always have an achilles heel.. Hell, Bama has an achilles heel as their kicking game, it just doesn't matter.

If we go slow and steady and keep overall attrition low ('low' being in the 25%-35% range), with this coaching staff and similar teachers as our current position coaches get plucked away for bigger jobs, we'll be okay. It's just going to take a few years. Like, Bailey should have a good squad as he assumes the role from JG as a true sophomore in 2021.

Enjoy the ride. We beat Auburn this year. Once we get on the right side of Vandy, Kentucky, and Carolina consistently, it'll get fun.
 
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ChismsHeadband said:
What really ****ing sucks is that the rich just keep on getting richer*

On its face, we need top-5 classes just to sniff their jocks. Therefore, a solid foundational class like the one we're signing (5 OL, multiple JUCO DL with 3 years' eligibility, plus 2 other DL) doesn't look all that impressive in comparison, even if it's exactly what we need.

That's one point, and the simplest one that I'm sure a lot of Rocky Top is feeling today. The asterisk below will be a counter point:

*Someone on r/cfb a few years ago (before they started sucking each others a$sholes for cheap fun) posted SEC attrition rates from 2002 through 2013. Basically if you didn't graduate or go pro a year early, it counted as attrition. Even the mighty Alabama saw attrition in the 30-40% range. LSU in their days of making hay, and USCe when they were finishing 10-2 under Spurrier saw attrition rates in the 40-50% range.

Not all of the monsters other schools are signing will stick. They'll add depth, for a while at least, but wait until the foundation gets a little crumbly in spots here and there. These teams (outside of Alabama and maybe UGA--- UGA is still a 'maybe') will always have an achilles heel.. Hell, Bama has an achilles heel as their kicking game, it just doesn't matter.

If we go slow and steady and keep overall attrition low ('low' being in the 25%-35% range), with this coaching staff and similar teachers as our current position coaches get plucked away for bigger jobs, we'll be okay. It's just going to take a few years. Like, Bailey should have a good squad as he assumes the role from JG as a true sophomore in 2021.

Enjoy the ride. We beat Auburn this year. Once we get on the right side of Vandy, Kentucky, and Carolina consistently, it'll get fun.
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Read first part then skipped.

If you haven't noticed. Kids are transferring like crazy now. The rich didn't get richer. The system is changing. If we sign our last big 3 then we will have had a very successful class.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I feel good about this class. We’ll add Gray tomorrow. By all accounts it seems that Crouch is signing with us on Friday. We are way out front for Wright. We add those guys we have the 2nd best class in the east and we still have several spots left to feel with some other big targets out there. This will be a really good class come February and better than the other classes in the east imo except for GA.
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I agree. If it plays out that way, I really don't see how anybody could expect better. That class adds another half dozen or more major contributors to go with the half dozen last season. They can take a big step forward next season if it all comes together.
 
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SLICKYINC said:
Yup, they might be great coaches but something just isn’t adding up. Especially considering all of the relationships they supposedly had with a bunch of the bigger targets.
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I think a couple guys may be struggling with the transition of position coach vs coordinator in terms of recruiting and how those relationships differ. Same for Pruitt as the head coach vs coordinator.
 
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Wasn't able to check in today. Jumped through the last pages after reading the commit thread that Freak set up.

My hot take: Pruitt isn't as great of a recruiter (as many of us hoped) without the backing of a NC-ready program (and a great head coach). Dude has power but he swings for the fences on every at bat. Unfortunately he bats a .237 and his on base percentage is .253.

Still waiting to see that he has the capacity for strategy, i.e. having a plan B and C when the coveted commit doesn't commit. Not sure that recruiting has the equivalent of an onside kick. If it did, I'd expect that we'd see it between now and February.
 
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