Upon further review, Jeremy Pruitt is wisely handling offensive coordinator search

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Behr said:
Earlier you said if you were wrong you would be the first to call yourself "Idiot", I disagree but that's beside the point.

You don't know if Pruitt told Briles he couldn't bring his OL coach with him, no one reported that as far as I know. I saw one tweet that said " one potential snag", and you're freaked out over that.

I honestly have no clue, not even a gut feeling who we end up with, but I'm excited about the possibility of being surprised.
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That’s cool. We can all make a decision on how to approach this. You are choosing excitement at the possibility of being surprised. I am frankly done giving this program the benefit of doubt. They have done nothing over the last 12 years for me to continue to do that. I’m sick of everything involving this program being ridiculously complicated with the end result virtually always bad. And the fact that this situation appears to have caught Pruitt & Co. flat footed is mind boggling. He should always have a working short list of coaches that he could turn to in the event he loses a coordinator, etc. No one can tell me this process seems remotely functional and well managed.
 
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tennesseekilt said:
Upon further review, Jeremy Pruitt is wisely handling offensive coordinator search

Smart take on UT OC search, and something we should all be mindful of, especially if it continues to drag on.
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While the article makes no more salient points than many posts on VN, I for one am encouraged that we appear to be going after proven in Power 5 OC's. Briles or Yurich would be excenllent hires IMO.

Now if i can just get ADPF or CJP to give me a ring I'll pass on my approval and we can wrap this thing up.
 
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volfannbama said:
Your argument might be more effective if you would skip the personal insilts and make the argument that over the last 4-5 years Tennessee has earned the right to deserve trust in their process of hiring coaches?
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It's not meant as an attack, just saying if he is so emotionally invested that the past has really caused him to be apathetic to any news even no news, then he should likely take a step back. I understand being pessimistic from the past experiences, but only ones that are at clinical levels of BVS are ignoring the facts, and ranting about rumors, from an otherwise tightlipped ship that Pruitt runs. I mean seriously I dont know of too many real rumors coming out of the team until after the season, all we heard from the team was in the way of positive. Why would anyone that still thinks rationally, just immediately assume that Pruitt is playing hiring roulette?
 
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ptcarter said:
Battered Vol syndrome alive and well here.. Butch, Davenport, Currie, Hart, Hamilton.... all are gone, yet we expect same type of decisions or worse from those currently in charge. Ten years from now, Freak can pull up this post and history may show the Fulmer/Pruitt were exactly the same as Hart/Butch. But that's premature. This needs time to unfold. Not enough time has passed. Too early to knee jerk.
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This is my point, everyone is assuming that it's the same old story with no actual facts. But this is a new AD, new coach, that seems to be going through traditional hiring practices.
 
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BloomuVol said:
It's not meant as an attack, just saying if he is so emotionally invested that the past has really caused him to be apathetic to any news even no news, then he should likely take a step back. I understand being pessimistic from the past experiences, but only ones that are at clinical levels of BVS are ignoring the facts, and ranting about rumors, from an otherwise tightlipped ship that Pruitt runs. I mean seriously I dont know of too many real rumors coming out of the team until after the season, all we heard from the team was in the way of positive. Why would anyone that still thinks rationally, just immediately assume that Pruitt is playing hiring roulette?
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You are the one that asserted ot was effecting him, not him.
I also see you cant/ wont make the argument.
 
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BloomuVol said:
Seriously, you just admitted that unproven conjecture from media sources has such an effect on you personally that you have developed apathy towards a team you are supposed to be a supporter of. I'm not trying to be a d!ck, but maybe this is when you need to take a look at that, professionally.
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NO....let me say this again. The ACTUAL track record of the UTAD and the ACTUAL decisions made by Fulmer and Pruitt inform my expectations. I have no idea what is happening right now. Neither do you. The media is spinning this, but who knows what is actually happening. I will say the UTAD is also pretty bad at media control - they never seem to be in control of the message.

As for the ad hominem, well, that kinda proves my point.
 
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volfannbama said:
Your argument might be more effective if you would skip the personal insilts and make the argument that over the last 4-5 years Tennessee has earned the right to deserve trust in their process of hiring coaches?
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Damn, volfannbama, that left a mark. Well said.

Bloomuvol,

I am in no way emotionally invested in this. In fact, over the past 10 years my emotional investment in UT football has plummeted, to the point where half the games I DVR and if we get blown out I never even watch. Sad, but true
 
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VolInNW said:
NO....let me say this again. The ACTUAL track record of the UTAD and the ACTUAL decisions made by Fulmer and Pruitt inform my expectations. I have no idea what is happening right now. Neither do you. The media is spinning this, but who knows what is actually happening. I will say the UTAD is also pretty bad at media control - they never seem to be in control of the message.

As for the ad hominem, well, that kinda proves my point.
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What actual track record? Fulmer has only hired one football coach as an AD and he is still there. And this is the first replacement hire pruitt has had to make, oh by the way the last guy he hired for that spot was just hired as a Head Coach at a program that has a history of Head Coaches that go on to further success. So please show to me how Fulmer and Pruitt have shown bad decisions in the hires they have made in the positions they are in.
 
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BloomuVol said:
What actual track record? Fulmer has only hired one football coach as an AD and he is still there. And this is the first replacement hire pruitt has had to make, oh by the way the last guy he hired for that spot was just hired as a Head Coach at a program that has a history of Head Coaches that go on to further success. So please show to me how Fulmer and Pruitt have shown bad decisions in the hires they have made in the positions they are in.
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Noone said Pruitt and Fulmer, but rather the university as a whole. Do you not remember how we got to the hiring of Pruitt and Fulmer.
I dont care what the BOT tweets out. If you think them and boosters are not influencing hires you are a fool.
 
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volfannbama said:
Noone said Pruitt and Fulmer, but rather the university as a whole. Do you not remember how we got to the hiring of Pruitt and Fulmer.
I dont care what the BOT tweets out. If you think them and boosters are not influencing hires you are a fool.
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Reread the post I quoted, he specifically said Fulmer and Pruitt.
 
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BloomuVol said:
Reread the post I quoted, he specifically said Fulmer and Pruitt.
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My bad, regardless he gave no indication that it made him miserable and you have no argument that UT should be trusted to hire people. Fulmer and Pruitt have yet to prove they are good hires. Of course Fulmer has equity with most people so we assume he is a good hire. Pruitt has not proven to be a good hire at all.
 
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VolforFootball said:
Yeah because we're such a well-ran organization.
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New people running the hire, it's not normal practice to just grab the biggest name when you are rebuilding a culture. They have to fit, and if that means some big names take other offers, oh well, they may not have fit as well as other candidates. Occams Razor, it doesnt always have to be some evil behind the scenes power play, the answer could be as simple as a head coach trying to find the best fit for the direction he has for his program. I'm not saying to have blind faith, but let it play out, and dont believe the rumors even if it is inticing to believe all the drama.
 
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volfannbama said:
My bad, regardless he gave no indication that it made him miserable and you have no argument that UT should be trusted to hire people. Fulmer and Pruitt have yet to prove they are good hires. Of course Fulmer has equity with most people so we assume he is a good hire. Pruitt has not proven to be a good hire at all.
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As I just stated in another post, I'm not saying to blindly trust them. But the answer to why it's taking a while could be as simple as a head coach knowing this hire is important for helping him establish the culture he wants, and doing his due diligence on the chosen candidates while also trying to being in an elite level recruiting class after a not so great year.
 
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gives Pruitt the feeling that we can take our time and lose even a second of recruiting time because we don’t have our new OC hired yet? I’m pretty sure offensive players want to know who their coordinator is before they sign LOI papers!!!!
 
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