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MR_VOL said:
Although the OP touched on many issues that seem to get entangled in every coaching search, in my opinion, the main issue was not mentioned. It seems the main problem for me and several others is the simple fact that UT cannot close the deal on the first (and usually the best) candidate. Missing out on the first candidate is bad, but to continue to not close the second, third, or fourth candidate is simply ridiculous making us have to settle and hire a less-qualified "left-over" candidate (which should not be hired in the first place). Also, by this time the media is involved bashing us on the inability to hire a coach or repeatedly saying "another coach has turned down Tennessee yet again making a total of 6 coaches to date." I would simply like to see UT have a pecking-order very short coach list (no more than 3 candidates) for every position and then simply hire one of the three candidates on the list within a few days.
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?I know that happened with the last head coaching search , but I just don't know that that has happened in this search. All I have heard is some vague media reports and fan rumors. Its unknown if Freeze was ever someone that was wanted , and it's unknown how many guys he has spoke with. The hire may have already been made for all we know. I will hold judgement until we know who is hired
 
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Devo182 said:
No idea, but his offense ends in few sacks and he runs north and south. Says he hates horizontal running because it can create negative plays. Like music to my ears. Have seen waay too many drives killed by TFLs allowed recently.

But I would doubt his Baylor, FAU, Houston teams just had elite OLs either. Those aren't exactly common stops for blue chip linemen.

In fact, Baylor never recruited a 4 star OL when he was there. A couple of 87.5 rated guys were the best there and they ran all over people.
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Sounds like his offenses are based on speed and CJP likes power running. One article that I haven't yet read refers to a "strange alliance" if Briles were to come to UT. Seems like they'd have to commit to winning and hash out their philosophical differences ASAP. It would be workable but I give it about 40% chance of the hire happening. UT needs to build their lines up to a competitive level 1st and foremost.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
I realize how harsh I am with those guys and it's on purpose as it's the only way to treat them on a message board. I've been posting on message boards since Gridscape, DawgVent, Tiderinsider and SwampGas were the sites everyone got their info from, none of this is new to me as I've done these little callouts hundreds of times over the years. The monikers love the NegaVols and the banter because they create traffic, I enjoy letting the NegaVols know they are simple minded and can't see the light intelligently.
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I thank you for clarifying your position there. For a minute it seemed as though you were lumping everyone who thought Freeze was the best hire in the same category with NegaVols which of course are opposites. On my part anyway, I didn't want Freeze in order to saddle the program with baggage. I thought he was the proven winner of the names listed as considered viable candidates. I've also seen the kind of Nega you're talking about who just trashes any thread which could be deemed positive no matter the merit of the topic discussed for what appears to be no reason other than just being negative. That is what I consider Nega. That is different from someone who has a position on an issue that is important to the success of the program, the fans, the school, the team, the staff, the admin, the state, and everyone. So I believe it's important to make that distinction clear so that no one is confused into thinking that you were calling Freeze hire supporters Nega Vols or idiots or whatever insult you reserved for those who are just negative for the sake of being nega. Agree?
 
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MR_VOL said:
Although the OP touched on many issues that seem to get entangled in every coaching search, in my opinion, the main issue was not mentioned. It seems the main problem for me and several others is the simple fact that UT cannot close the deal on the first (and usually the best) candidate. Missing out on the first candidate is bad, but to continue to not close the second, third, or fourth candidate is simply ridiculous making us have to settle and hire a less-qualified "left-over" candidate (which should not be hired in the first place). Also, by this time the media is involved bashing us on the inability to hire a coach or repeatedly saying "another coach has turned down Tennessee yet again making a total of 6 coaches to date." I would simply like to see UT have a pecking-order very short coach list (no more than 3 candidates) for every position and then simply hire one of the three candidates on the list within a few days.
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I feel It would be great if it were just that easy. These are multi year multi million dollar deals. Every coach "rumored" to be interviewed may or may not be on this so called list, maybe we can't hire or release the name now because the coach is in the NFL, maybe he's currently coaching hs, could be any number of reasons, and we aren't so different than other programs, neither Bama Auburn or FSU have hired an OC at this stage and they should be able to snap their fingers and get whoever they want according to many. I think coaches have an idea who they would like to hire and also there are coaches that apply for the positions out of the blue. As for hiring the best out there who is to say that they are even interested. Kiffin will have you believing that Briles is a perfect fit for the Vols, oh yeah, Kiffin is one of social media's biggest troll of all time! Best to just sit back and wait, kinda like Christmas morning, the gifts are never better just because you opened them xmas eve!
 
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OneVolNation said:
I thank you for clarifying your position there. For a minute it seemed as though you were lumping everyone who thought Freeze was the best hire in the same category with NegaVols which of course are opposites. On my part anyway, I didn't want Freeze in order to saddle the program with baggage. I thought he was the proven winner of the names listed as considered viable candidates. I've also seen the kind of Nega you're talking about who just trashes any thread which could be deemed positive no matter the merit of the topic discussed for what appears to be no reason other than just being negative. That is what I consider Nega. That is different from someone who has a position on an issue that is important to the success of the program, the fans, the school, the team, the staff, the admin, the state, and everyone. So I believe it's important to make that distinction clear so that no one is confused into thinking that you were calling Freeze hire supporters Nega Vols or idiots or whatever insult you reserved for those who are just negative for the sake of being nega. Agree?
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Absolutely agree!
 
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I know the suspense is killing us concerning this O C hire. However, in 2007, Cowher resigned from Steelers and it took the Rooney's 17 days to hire Tomlin. I think Tomlin is a good hire, even though he was not a big name at the time.
I would rather them take their time and get it right as opposed to rushing and making the wrong hire.
 
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KBVol said:
Don’t know specifically about the “Freeze or bust” guys, but I think aparthy has set in for a lot of fans, so I’d guess that’s a big reason. Only so much of this stuff you can take over and over and over again. I personally went from being very excited about this hire at first to now not caring the least bit. Im spent and honestly don’t care.
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You shouldn't stop caring, just should not get so worked up over it!
 
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That's what's up. Blessed are the peacemakers. Coach Pruitt has my trust in hiring a phenomenal OC just like Coach Fulmer did when he hired Coach Pruitt to be Head Coach. I agree that it's time for some more positivity in support of our leader who is working to get the job done. Once he sees the right man for the job, he isn't the type to tippy-toe and let him pass on him. He'll wrap up and bring him down to Vol Town. Then we can get the scoring machine party started.
 
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OneVolNation said:
That's what's up. Blessed are the peacemakers. Coach Pruitt has my trust in hiring a phenomenal OC just like Coach Fulmer did when he hired Coach Pruitt to be Head Coach. I agree that it's time for some more positivity in support of our leader who is working to get the job done. Once he sees the right man for the job, he isn't the type to tippy-toe and let him pass on him. He'll wrap up and bring him down to Vol Town. Then we can get the scoring machine party started.
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I'm with you all the way on that way of thinking!
 
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Rudy123 said:
I know the suspense is killing us concerning this O C hire. However, in 2007, Cowher resigned from Steelers and it took the Rooney's 17 days to hire Tomlin. I think Tomlin is a good hire, even though he was not a big name at the time.
I would rather them take their time and get it right as opposed to rushing and making the wrong hire.
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I'm a Steelers fan too, they've got it right a bunch of times over the years by being patient and doing due diligence in hiring coaches and drafting players, all while keeping their historical good character, they are definitely a good model for our admin to look towards.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
I do think people care about what others think of them, yes I do. The folks that go around saying "I don't care what people think of me, I'll do and say what I want" are simple minded folks I feel.
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So, Pruitt is simple minded? I fell the opposite, I feel he is tricked skinned and self secure.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
So, Pruitt is simple minded? I fell the opposite, I feel he is tricked skinned and self secure.
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Pruitt absolutely cares about what people think of him! Don't go lapping him into that group of folks. He's NOT going to care what the negative Nancy NegaVols think about the hire because I'm guessing he really could care less what those imbocils think of the hire!
 
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majic73 said:
Freeze may have been a good hire based on his talent . I would have been willing to give him a chance. On the flip side , he would give some really successful teams some negative recruiting ammo. He most likely would have been one and done . When a guy with his baggage comes into your program so do the eyes of the NCAA . They could come in at any time an start flipping over rocks. So there was a down side to him.

I am hoping for a solid hire and a guy that can recruit. Freeze isn't the only one. That tells me more about the proposed success of failure of CJP than the W's and L's to this point
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We didn’t need Freeze to have negative recruiting said about our team.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
When did I say Briles was the answer?
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You didn't say he was the answer, you said people were acting like he was untouchable because he just signed a big contract extension and you implied if we wanted him his new contract would not matter and all we would have to do is throw buyout money at him. You just mentioned him in your previous post did you not?
 
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A message to all you negavols
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While the idea was initially exciting as he has proven to be such a great offensive coach...the more I though about it the less excited I was. He runs a spread offense and it usually takes a couple of years to get the right personnel in place and "coached up", but freeze almost certainly wouldn't have lasted here more than a year.
So I really landed on briles almost immediately. He's a younger more exciting option than freeze imo. He was lane kiffin oc and has had one of the best offenses for he last 5 years now at three different schools. And being that big time programs probably won't be beating down his door to hire him as head coach just yet...you could very well get a couple of years out of him. He's a younger, hungrier, version of freeze that could be here for a while. We have to make this happen. It's the homerun hire we've been hoping for.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Pruitt absolutely cares about what people think of him! Don't go lapping him into that group of folks. He's NOT going to care what the negative Nancy NegaVols think about the hire because I'm guessing he really could care less what those imbocils think of the hire!
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Butch Jones cared what people think about him, he was very insecure. Pruitt and Jones are polar opposites
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
You didn't say he was the answer, you said people were acting like he was untouchable because he just signed a big contract extension and you implied if we wanted him his new contract would not matter and all we would have to do is throw buyout money at him. You just mentioned him in your previous post did you not?
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If Briles wants the Tennessee job then, yes that's all they have to do.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Butch Jones cared what people think about him, he was very insecure. Pruitt and Jones are polar opposites
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There is a big difference in caring what people think of you and being insecure! Gym coach Jones was a joke day 1 and always a terrible hire and you are right, Pruitt is the exact opposite of him, doesn't mean Pruitt doesn't care what people think of him!
 
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