Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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Pruitt isn't looking for someone to open up his offense. He wants someone to run what he wants to run how he wants to run it. If he wanted to be challenged or deal with a different offensive philosophy, we wouldn't be replacing Helton.
 
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UTProf said:
I remember that too. When all those stories were coming out I expected a lot more but the only real conclusion was: Hugh Freeze is weird.
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A friend of mine played for Freeze at Lambuth back when he was there. He seems to speak highly of him but there's no denying he's a freak
 
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BruinVol said:
Sure.
If he's Guilty I am glad we ruined it
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"Ruined his career" is a bit dramatic. He's still making close to or exceeding a million dollars as a DC, which is the same position he had prior to our AD offering him a job.

I've argued about this ad nauseum with a friend of mine. The main reason why he's not our HC is that he was going to be yet another in a long line of mediocre HC's and, that alone, was nearly an impossible pill to swallow for this fanbase. Add in that there still exists suspicion about whether he witnessed, and failed to report, Sandusky violating a child...f*** him and his reputation. The suspicion alone should have been enough for ANY AD worth his salt to cross him off their list, but no...we wanted to promote him.

/Rant
 
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i2amavol said:
It's not like Dobbs was a 3 time all-american passer or anything. Sometimes you have to realize the good old days weren't really all THAT great. Hurts does alot with his legs. I never said he was a geat passer, but I think he was on Dobb's level as a runner - not that I watched every Bammer game to find out.

Edit: I'm not down on JG. It's just that the fact he doesn't move much, and then he gets obliterated, with our current OL.
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Dobbs set records. Those times were pretty great.
 
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orangeblood79 said:
I've argued about this ad nauseum with a friend of mine. The main reason why he's not our HC is that he was going to be yet another in a long line of mediocre HC's and, that alone
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Some people saw it that way but others saw a guy that has performed miracles at Rutgers and hopefully learned through a failed NFL head coaching job. I absolutely loved his resume
 
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orangeblood79 said:
"Ruined his career" is a bit dramatic. He's still making close to or exceeding a million dollars as a DC, which is the same position he had prior to our AD offering him a job.

I've argued about this ad nauseum with a friend of mine. The main reason why he's not our HC is that he was going to be yet another in a long line of mediocre HC's and, that alone, was nearly an impossible pill to swallow for this fanbase. Add in that there still exists suspicion about whether he witnessed, and failed to report, Sandusky violating a child...f*** him and his reputation. The suspicion alone should have been enough for ANY AD worth his salt to cross him off their list, but no...we wanted to promote him.

/Rant
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You’ve not truly argued as nauseum until you begin this argument with Bruin. You’re about to be puking your guts out from it
 
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LA Vol said:
Pruitt isn't looking for someone to open up his offense. He wants someone to run what he wants to run how he wants to run it. If he wanted to be challenged or deal with a different offensive philosophy, we wouldn't be replacing Helton.
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Help me understand why ANY OC would go to a play were they cant run there own offense. Why would a coordinator come in that capacity. Just never understood this process
 
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LA Vol said:
Pruitt isn't looking for someone to open up his offense. He wants someone to run what he wants to run how he wants to run it. If he wanted to be challenged or deal with a different offensive philosophy, we wouldn't be replacing Helton.
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This sounds like Pruitt isn't going to allow an OC to do his job
 
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UT didn't create or expose Schiano's backstory-- it was already there. But the Schiano situation, coupled with the Bruce Pearl and Donnie Tyndall fiascos, the Title IX lawsuit, the AJ Johnson trial and the ridiculous trail of botched hirings and firings-- all high-profile and negatively perceived-- contribute to UT's desire to distance the university from any association with scandal, NCAA investigations and bad publicity. The Helton situation was "handled" to the benefit of all.
 
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drvenner said:
Dobbs set records. Those times were pretty great.
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Yes, and Hurts has done pretty well for himself as well. He has led championship teams.

Obviously, Hurts has/had a great supporting cast, but he did alright. Who knows what he would be able to do for us, but he's not exactly hot garbage. He just got beat out by a Heisman Trophy winner.

That is my opinion. Everyone has a right to theirs.
 
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BruinVol said:
Some people saw it that way but others saw a guy that has performed miracles at Rutgers and hopefully learned through a failed NFL head coaching job. I absolutely loved his resume
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The people who were excited about a possible Schiano hire were the same people who were excited about Butch Jones...
 
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BruinVol said:
This sounds like Pruitt isn't going to allow an OC to do his job
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This is how bad rumors get started. All HCs have a philosophy of what they want and have input. Doesn't mean he won't let an OC call his own plays or have input or bring multiplicity. He just wants someone he can trust that will run an offense with physicality and pro style. There are so many ways to do this in today's game. Pruitt is aggressive as heck on defense and special teams. You don't think that translates to offense either? He showed he will go for it often if it makes sense. It seem certain guys want to paint Pruitt a certain way and I have my doubts they know everything like they think they do. Pruitt doesn't spew everything he thinks to everyone
 
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Get Hurts in here next year with what we'll still be a struggling o line, and I think we'd have a shot at a pretty solid season. Running game should be pretty strong, defense should be a good bit better.
 
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LA Vol said:
Pruitt isn't looking for someone to open up his offense. He wants someone to run what he wants to run how he wants to run it. If he wanted to be challenged or deal with a different offensive philosophy, we wouldn't be replacing Helton.
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This kind of concerns me...
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
This is how bad rumors get started. All HCs have a philosophy of what they want and have input. Doesn't mean he won't let an OC call his own plays or have input or bring multiplicity. He just wants someone he can trust that will run an offense with physicality and pro style. There are so many ways to do this in today's game. Pruitt is aggressive as heck on defense and special teams. You don't think that translates to offense either? He showed he will go for it often if it makes sense. It seem certain guys want to paint Pruitt a certain way and I have my doubts they know everything like they think they do. Pruitt doesn't spew everything he thinks to everyone
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Good post.

This will make a good conversation after this is done but what we know about him wanting to play downhill prostyle virtually the only hire he can make is CJM. If he hires Lindsey or someone similar it really seems odd to
Hire a "air raid" guy and expect them to run a different type style
 
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reVOLution33 said:
Why did he hire him in the first place then.
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1.2 million dollars for year one is a respectable salary, probably can overcome a whole heap of coaching philosophy. Name recognition and resume may be more important than we realized for recruiting purposes. I don't know though. What LA Vol is suggesting is a bit disconcerting. I think there is some basis for the tenor of is observations. The commentary on our coach's attitude has a bit of the ring of an "infallible system" claim. I don't know what to make of all of this.

Am going to take a more wait a see attitude. Am not hearing many "leaks" about the process, interviews, agents comments, etc. Surely for purposes of a contractual process with a state entity some not insignificant level of due diligence is underway.
 
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LA Vol said:
Pruitt isn't looking for someone to open up his offense. He wants someone to run what he wants to run how he wants to run it. If he wanted to be challenged or deal with a different offensive philosophy, we wouldn't be replacing Helton.
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If he's that rigid he will fail here. But I have to wonder why a guy with a defensive background would have such a hardened offensive philosophy to begin with. He hasn't publicly expressed much of one and Saban changes OC's and offensive styles these days like shoes so I don't understand where that's coming from. Are folks just assuming that because he came from BAMA and people still think BAMA runs the same offense from 10 years ago (they don't) that he somehow demands that offense?
 
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