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Bassmaster_Vol said:
That was Mike Bobo's offense not Friend
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He might not have been calling plays but he still had a major hand in that offense. It's no different than saying it wasn't Pruitts defense at Alabama but Sabans.

But that's the type of offense I think Pruitt wants to run, and that plays in Friends favor. It's not like we're at a point where a major OC is the difference between a 9 win season and a conference championship. Having some stability on the offensive side is needed IMO with the lack of development our players have had
 
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BJHSVol said:
He might not have been calling plays but he still had a major hand in that offense. It's no different than saying it wasn't Pruitts defense at Alabama but Sabans.

But that's the type of offense I think Pruitt wants to run, and that plays in Friends favor. It's not like we're at a point where a major OC is the difference between a 9 win season and a conference championship. Having some stability on the offensive side is needed IMO with the lack of development our players have had
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112th in the nation...you want to stay stable?
 
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BJHSVol said:
He might not have been calling plays but he still had a major hand in that offense. It's no different than saying it wasn't Pruitts defense at Alabama but Sabans.
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Sounds almost exactly what we had with Helton.

And Pruitt called Bama's, UGA's, and FSU's defense. No comparison.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
He’s the associate head coach, had been OC at Arky and HC at Central Michigan. Locksley is likely the new Maryland HC and Enos will be moved up.

There’s no reason for him to come here. He’s more likely to get a HC job as the associate head coach at Alabama than the OC at Tennessee running a struggling offense.
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This doesn't make any sense considering Helton just got a HC job while running a struggling Tennessee offense.
 
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I think people are overrating Hurts quite a bit. He was an athlete that played behind an NFL line at Bama, and usually didn't see anyone on the defense until he was 5 yards past the line of scrimmage. He isn't a very good passer, and would not have anything close to the space behind our OL that he did at Alabama.

Would I take him over JG? Yes. But I don't think he's a sure-fire difference maker.
 
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BJHSVol said:
He might not have been calling plays but he still had a major hand in that offense. It's no different than saying it wasn't Pruitts defense at Alabama but Sabans.

But that's the type of offense I think Pruitt wants to run, and that plays in Friends favor. It's not like we're at a point where a major OC is the difference between a 9 win season and a conference championship. Having some stability on the offensive side is needed IMO with the lack of development our players have had
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Pruitt called the defensive plays though. I'm not sure that Friend did.
 
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SeanJean said:
I think people are overrating Hurts quite a bit. He was an athlete that played behind an NFL line at Bama, and usually didn't see anyone on the defense until he was 5 yards past the line of scrimmage. He isn't a very good passer, and would not have anything close to the space behind our OL that he did at Alabama.

Would I take him over JG? Yes. But I don't think he's a sure-fire difference maker.
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He has improved greatly as a passer in the last year under Enos. And he is vastly superior to anyone we have and it isn't close. That dual threat ability alone makes him a big time difference maker. I guarantee you, that even with Helton here, if he was our QB, our offense would not have ranked 112th.
 
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SeanJean said:
I think people are overrating Hurts quite a bit. He was an athlete that played behind an NFL line at Bama, and usually didn't see anyone on the defense until he was 5 yards past the line of scrimmage. He isn't a very good passer, and would not have anything close to the space behind our OL that he did at Alabama.

Would I take him over JG? Yes. But I don't think he's a sure-fire difference maker.
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He adds QB run to the playbook. That is something that can take a lot of pressure off of the RBs and OL. Being able to roll out and force one of the defenders play "spy" is very important.

Also gives the QB the ability to run it if a pass play breaks down.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
He has improved greatly as a passer in the last year under Enos. And he is vastly superior to anyone we have and it isn't close. That dual threat ability alone makes him a big time difference maker. I guarantee you, that even with Helton here, if he was our QB, our offense would not have ranked 112th.
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He has improved as a passer? Do you have practice footage? He hasn't even thrown 60 passes this year, and he is throwing to NFL wideouts in mop up duty.

I totally agree, he's better than what we have, of course. I'm just not seeing him as some huge offseason difference maker like Cam Newton or something.
 
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butchna said:
Wouldn’t have mattered if he’d smashed it here. No HC wants his name associated with keeping an assistant away from advancing...optics schmoptics.
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That’s a fair point, but it’s not much different from an AD locking up a HC. Bottom line is if you’re a coordinator who doesn’t want to have a potential buyout hanging over your head when looking to land a HC job, then you just need to negotiate up front for that to not be an issue later. But in economic terms, there should be a cost to that in terms of lower salary (or something else), because there is value to having that buyout on the school’s side.
 
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bignewt said:
112th in the nation...you want to stay stable?
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We went from a spread zone type offense to a more multiple man-run offense. Other than against Bama and UGA, most of our offensive struggles came from mental mistakes or poor play calling. Our play caller is gone and as players can start to actually play and not think execution will get better.
 
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VEKZY said:
He adds QB run to the playbook. That is something that can take a lot of pressure off of the RBs and OL. Being able to roll out and force one of the defenders play "spy" is very important.

Also gives the QB the ability to run it if a pass play breaks down.
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No question. I completely agree. Our complete inability to deal with any pressure whatsoever on the QB this year was such a massive weakness.
 
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therickbol said:
The truth is BS?
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I just think it's typical to blame it all on the QB. He wasn't good enough to overcome one of the worst offensive lines in Vols history (for 2 years in a row lol!)..... that we can agree on. I'm not trying to make the case that he was this excellent QB. He got his face blown off by defensive ends about 6 times per game. And just kept getting up playing the next play.

He gave his all for this program this year and to act like he's a moron whose head would explode because of running the RPO offense is ridiculous and bs in my opinion.

But whatever. Message boards are gonna message board I suppose. This is why I can't stay in here for more than a day. Y'all make me too mad.
 
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