QB choice biggest mistake all season.

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#127
lifeisdeep said:
So I looked up stats. Rick Clausen played two seasons for UT, the same as JG thus far. Clausen's stats are first, followed by JG's:

total yards passing: 2390 to 2765
14 TDS to 15 TDS
11 INTS to 4
58.5 COMP to 63.2
6.95 YPA to 7.66
12 sacks to 47

It should be noted that Clausen's weaker year was his second one, and that was 2005, which was the worst season in over two decades (5-7). So he was not playing with a world-beater squad that year.

47 sacks in two years = not a good QB.
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The lines RC had would stomp a mud hole in the two JG has had to play with ..... your stats are meaningless
 
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#128
#128
k-town_king said:
You made the comparison psycho.
You wanted to use Big Ben as some example of perfect qb play and things JG can't do.

Then he did several things that you are complaing about when it comes to JG.

So Big Ben can't read a defense either then? He got hit a ton. Got hurt and came back. Missed a couple wide open passes, even threw a pick in the endzone to end the game.

I guess Rothlisberger is terrible too. No qb ever has a bad game.



Most teams would be excited to have a qb with a 62.2%, 140 plus rating, 4/1 td/int ratio season as a sophomore with two wins over top 25 teams against the toughest schedule in the country,with a terrible team around him, back.



Rick Clausen had much more talent around him and was worse in literally every single passing stat. JG is better than a ton of qbs we have had.
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I think we would have done better with Dormandy this year. That is how bad I believe JG is.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Ok.... while the JG story has yet to be fully written.... he has some good traits and some bad ones ..... but any of you guys that think Ricky rag arm was a better QB needs to be evaluated for a traumatic case of the dumb
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I laffed...

Folks, it's going to be hard to get A++ level QBs here for a while, especially until we get a legit OL.

We need to be realistic about what we can get for the time being, and maybe consider appreciating what we have (while acknowledging that they might not go down in history books as exemplar quarterbacks.)

What we should be hoping for in the very short term is a QB with a lot of raw talent who has been overlooked/ underdeveloped/ whatever. It would be nice to get a Heisman candidate, but for now, I'd be pretty damn happy with a diamond in the rough.
 
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lifeisdeep said:
But he's just not good enough. He's not even close. If they stick with him we're really sunk because he's the worst QB UT has fielded in my lifetime and I'm 52.
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That guy who played in around 79-80....Jeff Oshellpski (sp?) was worse.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Numbers do not tell the whole story. Watching a QB with a "Deer in the headlights" look on almost every passing play does.
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Your feelings, like many other emotional fans, are clouding you evaluation.

Playing with a historically bad line and getting sacked 2 times per game while completing 62.2% and a 4/1 td/int ratio is not "deer in the headlights."

maybe last year when he took over 5 sacks a game.
 
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#141
k-town_king said:
Your feelings, like many other emotional fans, are clouding you evaluation.

Playing with a historically bad line and getting sacked 2 times per game while completing 62.2% and a 4/1 td/int ratio is not "deer in the headlights."

maybe last year when he took over 5 sacks a game.
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Hey he probably had that look in at least 9 for the 11 games this year even against some of the lesser opponents like ETSU. Many Vol fans are in agreement with my position from what I read this year. You are part of the minority position on JG but I guess your smarter than everyone else.
 
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Freak said:
You mangled his name. I’d correct it but I can’t spell it either. Lol.
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Yes, we used to sing out...O-sh*t-ski, but I know it isn't spelled that way. lol....he wasn't very good.

We can work with JG. Must get him some blocking first. Then, we can see what he can do.
 
#143
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k-town_king said:
Your feelings, like many other emotional fans, are clouding you evaluation.

Playing with a historically bad line and getting sacked 2 times per game while completing 62.2% and a 4/1 td/int ratio is not "deer in the headlights."

maybe last year when he took over 5 sacks a game.
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LOL, not "Deer in the Headlights" . Did you just listen to radio broadcasts this year and not watch any games on TV ?
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
LOL, not "Deer in the Headlights" . Did you just listen to radio broadcasts this year and not watch any games on TV ?
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Obviously you didn't as the people who cover the team have constantly reaffirmed for the dummies that the sacks are due to missed assignments.

2 sacks per game. Not even in the bottom half for sack rate. Over a 140 rating first year starting with the toughest schedule in the country. Yep a real deer in the headlights.
 
#145
#145
k-town_king said:
Obviously you didn't as the people who cover the team have constantly reaffirmed for the dummies that the sacks are due to missed assignments.

2 sacks per game. Not even in the bottom half for sack rate. Over a 140 rating first year starting with the toughest schedule in the country. Yep a real deer in the headlights.
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Yep a real deer in the headlights.[/QUOTE]

I knew you would come around. I'm glad you agree.
 
#146
#146
UTK said:
JG is the best QB we have like it or not. Chryst is a turnover machine. You ain’t winning that way either.
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Chryst has played his last game of football. Why not let this subject die and look forward to Spring practice and see who comes out the best QB. Who knows, we may have to wait to see if the incoming Freshman from Florida may be the starter this Fall.
 
#147
#147
k-town_king said:
Obviously you didn't as the people who cover the team have constantly reaffirmed for the dummies that the sacks are due to missed assignments.

2 sacks per game. Not even in the bottom half for sack rate. . Yep a real deer in the headlights
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Over a 140 rating first year starting with the toughest schedule in the country.
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I checked the strength of schedule yesterday because I was interested in UCF's schedule. You throw out details as facts but it turns out you are not posting credible information in some cases. Our strength of schedule was somewhere in the 30's with Vandy one spot ahead of us.
 
#149
#149
Nobody and I mean nobody in the current QB stable needs to be on any depth chart. I might sound like a broken record but there are better QBs on my kid's HS team. I got to add the high school turned out Drew Brees, Nick Noles, current U of Texas QB. Bottomline recruit and play a freshman ....it's the VOLS's only hope for 2019
 
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#150
orange plasma said:
IMO being stubborn about keeping JG at the helm was the biggest mistake all season. I realize that it's easy to blame the QB but he's clearly not capable of generating sufficient offense for Tn to be competitive consistently. Allowing Chryst to get more reps and gel with this offense earlier in the season would I believe made the difference in a few games like South Carolina and possibly Vandy. JG got tons of grace from throwing up a few 50 50 balls successfully. The guy is really is not very dynamic and has NO RUNNING ABILITY. Itll be extremely discouraging to see him at the top of the depth chart next season. Thoughts on the chances are that Pruitt moves to start a freshman next seaon?
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If JG has discipline issues or injury issue, then we see another QB. Other than that NO
If JG were on crutches, Pruitt would still play him. Pruitt loves him that much.
 
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