QB choice biggest mistake all season.

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Volumnus 2011 said:
It's entirely too easy to make a statement like, "JG holds onto the ball too long" without knowing everything. And yes, there have been folks saying that, but once an opinion becomes popular, it gets repeated whether it's right or not. I don't go off of what others say, I think for myself. If JG had a competent offensive line, he wouldn't be sacked near as much either. And when Chryst saw playing time, he was playing in garbage time, save the Missouri game, when he wasn't sacked as much, but instead of standing in there to make throws, he was either throwing incomplete passes or interceptions. JG hung in there and delivered strikes just before getting blasted all year long. Think about the Auburn game. If he doesn't stand in there and get trucked, and instead gets rid of it fast, then Tennessee doesn't win that game. The offensive line has been unbelievably bad.

But that's ok. You enjoy the warmth of that blanket of like minded feelings.
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I don't know that other people think that or not but I damn sure know what I see. And that's a qb that absolutely holds the ball too long. He reminds me of matt Simms. Remember when he used to get hit all the time and fumble? Jg has terrible pocket awareness. A qb has to be able to feel the pressure and move around in the pocket some to buy time while keeping his eyes down the field. It's not easy to do but it's absolutely necessary to be a great qb.
 
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chattavol420 said:
I don't know that other people think that or not but I damn sure know what I see. And that's a qb that absolutely holds the ball too long. He reminds me of matt Simms. Remember when he used to get hit all the time and fumble? Jg has terrible pocket awareness. A qb has to be able to feel the pressure and move around in the pocket some to buy time while keeping his eyes down the field. It's not easy to do but it's absolutely necessary to be a great qb.
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47 sacks over 2 years... there's a stat the JG folks! Flat wore out Richmond to a point he could not block anymore.
 
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After our QB started the game not getting much going at all why would you not bring in the back up? Then if the back up gets something going then great. If not then bring the starter back in. In my opinion it looked like our starter was a little off to start the game and never got anything going or got in a rhythm.
 
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NEVolFan said:
47 sacks over 2 years... there's a stat the JG folks! Flat wore out Richmond to a point he could not block anymore.
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Again...sometimes the sack is on the qb. Simply moving around in the pocket many times will allow you to extend a play and complete a pass. Sometimes the pressure just comes so fast you can't do anything about it. I'd estimate that about half of the sacks were a result of holding the ball too long or not being athletic enough to avoid a 300 pound lineman you could see coming from a mile away. I can't recall a single play all year where jg avoided a rusher and then completed a pass
 
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chattavol420 said:
Again...sometimes the sack is on the qb. Simply moving around in the pocket many times will allow you to extend a play and complete a pass. Sometimes the pressure just comes so fast you can't do anything about it. I'd estimate that about half of the sacks were a result of holding the ball too long or not being athletic enough to avoid a 300 pound lineman you could see coming from a mile away. I can't recall a single play all year where jg avoided a rusher and then completed a pass
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There were great moments we saw in the KY game where JG moved up in the pocket as pressure came in and he completes passes. I believe that touchdown pass right before the end of the half was one. But after that game, we never saw him do that again. Back to being a statue.
 
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chattavol420 said:
Again...sometimes the sack is on the qb. Simply moving around in the pocket many times will allow you to extend a play and complete a pass. Sometimes the pressure just comes so fast you can't do anything about it. I'd estimate that about half of the sacks were a result of holding the ball too long or not being athletic enough to avoid a 300 pound lineman you could see coming from a mile away. I can't recall a single play all year where jg avoided a rusher and then completed a pass
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Have you forgotten the touchdown pass he threw at the end of the first half vs Kentucky to Calloway already?
 
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vols 30 said:
JG throws a terrible deep ball. Can't read defenses. Clueless about blitzes.

That's been all year long. He has had a few good moments, but not enough to be a Starting QB.
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This hits the nail on the head. No one expects JG to be anywhere in the same vicinity as Roethlisberger. But, I am tired of hearing he doesn't have time to complete a pass. He doesn't have a clue what to do presnap or after the snap besides stare down one receiver and check down a lot of the time he doesn't have to check down! Roethlisberger just threw a 97 yard TD off his back foot when under pressure with the lineman getting to him within 3 seconds. JG has lots of times where he has at least 3 seconds to get rid of the ball and can't find WRs that are open when they are. He isn't a gamer. He gets deer in the headlights look and a puzzled mind way too often!!! THERE ARE AT LEAST 50 GOOD POWER 5 QBs that can make good reads and throws that are more than 8 yards in less than 4 seconds, not JG!!! By they way Vols 30, I am a STEELERS FAN TOO. I have been for 41 years!
 
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VolsGrad1989 said:
This hits the nail on the head. No one expects JG to be anywhere in the same vicinity as Roethlisberger. But, I am tired of hearing he doesn't have time to complete a pass. He doesn't have a clue what to do presnap or after the snap besides stare down one receiver and check down a lot of the time he doesn't have to check down! Roethlisberger just threw a 97 yard TD off his back foot when under pressure with the lineman getting to him within 3 seconds. JG has lots of times where he has at least 3 seconds to get rid of the ball and can't find WRs that are open when they are. He isn't a gamer. He gets deer in the headlights look and a puzzled mind way too often!!! THERE ARE AT LEAST 50 GOOD POWER 5 QBs that can make good reads and throws that are more than 8 yards in less than 4 seconds, not JG!!! By they way Vols 30, I am a STEELERS FAN TOO. I have been for 41 years!
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Watched the Pitt game too. Before that he missed a wide open 20 yard pass that would have been a td. He and Keenum took a couole huge bitzes that yall would blame on the qb. I guess they cant read defense either huh? He took several big hits this game. Had to even go to the locker room for treatment. I guess Big Ben can't read a defense.

Compared to past UT qbs he has one of the highest single season ypa.
 
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dgcarter43 said:
A good place to start next season would be with a new OC. Play calling is terrible and too easy to defend against.
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oc is not going anywhere....Play calling was limited because of the personnel.....QBs were not reading defenses.....this will be JG's downfall if he loses the position.....
 
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He certainly wasn't great. But he was better than the alternative(s).

Always amazed at those who think that we have Heisman candidates parked in the attic, watching soap operas and doing needlepoint while waiting for The Call.
 
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k-town_king said:
Watched the Pitt game too. Before that he missed a wide open 20 yard pass that would have been a td. He and Keenum took a couole huge bitzes thst yall wouos blame on tgw qb. I guess they cant read defense either huh? He rpok several big hits this game. Had to even go to the locker room for treatment. I guess Big Ben can't read a defense.

Compared to past UT qbs he has one of the highest single season ypa.
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You are clueless and comparing apples to oranges. JG is terrible, period. That will be proven by this time next year!
 
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k-town_king said:
Watched the Pitt game too. Before that he missed a wide open 20 yard pass that would have been a td. He and Keenum took a couole huge bitzes thst yall wouos blame on tgw qb. I guess they cant read defense either huh? He rpok several big hits this game. Had to even go to the locker room for treatment. I guess Big Ben can't read a defense.

Compared to past UT qbs he has one of the highest single season ypa.
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LoL. You are beyond desperate. It's getting harder defending your boy
 
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MurphyVol said:
JG/KC debate is finally dead. Let the JG/Shrout debate begin
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Have not seen Shrout play but did not like his stat of over 20 interceptions in his senior year. That would be extremely hard to accomplish at any level of football. I hope a new recruit could come in and win the job as a Freshman. Then we would know for certain that he would be a pretty darn good QB.
 
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MurphyVol said:
JG/KC debate is finally dead. Let the JG/Shrout debate begin
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Have not seen Shrout play but did not like his stat of over 20 interceptions in his senior year. That would be extremely hard to accomplish at any level of football. I hope a new recruit could come in and win the job as a Freshman. Then we would know for certain that he would be a pretty darn good QB.
Volumnus 2011 said:
Are you being serious? You think JG is worse than Rick Clausen or Nick Stephens? Good Lord.
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Rick Clausen was better.
 
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orange plasma said:
IMO being stubborn about keeping JG at the helm was the biggest mistake all season. I realize that it's easy to blame the QB but he's clearly not capable of generating sufficient offense for Tn to be competitive consistently. Allowing Chryst to get more reps and gel with this offense earlier in the season would I believe made the difference in a few games like South Carolina and possibly Vandy. JG got tons of grace from throwing up a few 50 50 balls successfully. The guy is really is not very dynamic and has NO RUNNING ABILITY. Itll be extremely discouraging to see him at the top of the depth chart next season. Thoughts on the chances are that Pruitt moves to start a freshman next seaon?
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Really??? Someone thought it was a good idea to start a thread to debate JG vs KC? The season is over, debating which is better or could have won more games, is really a mute point now. Chryst is officially gone.
 
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VolsGrad1989 said:
You are clueless and comparing apples to oranges. JG is terrible, period. That will be proven by this time next year!
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You made the comparison.

You wanted to use Big Ben as some example of perfect qb play and things JG can't do.

Then he did several things that you are complaing about when it comes to JG.

So Big Ben can't read a defense either then? He got hit a ton. Got hurt and came back. Missed a couple wide open passes, even threw a pick in the endzone to end the game.

I guess Rothlisberger is terrible too. No qb ever has a bad game.

vols 30 said:
LoL. You are beyond desperate. It's getting harder at defending your boy
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Most teams would be excited to have a qb with a 62.2%, 140 plus rating, 4/1 td/int ratio season as a sophomore with two wins over top 25 teams against the toughest schedule in the country,with a terrible team around him, back.


ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Have not seen Shrout play but did not like his stat of over 20 interceptions in his senior year. That would be extremely hard to accomplish at any level of football. I hope a new recruit could come in and win the job as a Freshman. Then we would know for certain that he would be a pretty darn good QB.

Rick Clausen was better.
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Rick Clausen had much more talent around him and was worse in literally every single passing stat. JG is better than a ton of qbs we have had.
 
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