QB choice biggest mistake all season.

#51
#51
VolsGrad1989 said:
It is AT LEAST DEBATEABLE!!! JG has not shown me anything. A lot of the balls JG completed vs Auburn were 50/50. He still throws a lot of passes behind the WRs, checks down all the time when not necessary, and stares down one receiver and doesn't go through progressions most of the time with this being his third year as a college QB. I am not one to blame the O performance on JG alone. But, I am tired of the OL and play calling being ALL THE BLAME. JG IS NOT EVEN A GOOD SEC QB, MUCH LESS ELITE!!! You don't get to Atlanta with a below average to average on the best days QB!!!
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Too much logic.
 
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lifeisdeep said:
My hazy memory does not recall this person. Based on the stats I just found on Wikipedia, he may be the winner for worst QB here.
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I had the misfortune of attending UT my first 2 years while he was our QB. Really really bad.
 
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The problem is Coach dug his grave going with JG. He really did not have a choice though. KC just had one year and not suited for helton offense. Now looking at next year with Nothing in the cupboard. Sad
 
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Last game of the season and I had to finally turn the channel in the 3rd. Waited for 9 months and staring another 9 months in the face. Nothing. Next year likely as poor as this one.
 
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dgcarter43 said:
A good place to start next season would be with a new OC. Play calling is terrible and too easy to defend against.
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The plays to be called are controlled by the head coach not the offensive coordinator. If the offensive line does not get better then I think we are going to see the same offense next year as we saw this year.
 
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MurphyVol said:
JG/KC debate is finally dead. Let the JG/Shrout debate begin
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This all day... no more KC discussions required moving forward.

Shrout is a better dual threat than JG and will be able to move out of that dam landfill when it caves in... has a good arm. Needs practice time to gain confidence... that should come this spring. Bring it on!
 
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NEVolFan said:
This all day... no more KC discussions required moving forward.

Shrout is a better dual threat than JG and will be able to move out of that dam landfill when it caves in... has a good arm. Needs practice time to gain confidence... that should come this spring. Bring it on!
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But, but, but Pruitt doesn't want JG looking over his back. How'd that work out. Don't need to hear coach talk another year from Pruitt about competition. NEXT MAN
( QB) up
 
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orange plasma said:
IMO being stubborn about keeping JG at the helm was the biggest mistake all season. I realize that it's easy to blame the QB but he's clearly not capable of generating sufficient offense for Tn to be competitive consistently. Allowing Chryst to get more reps and gel with this offense earlier in the season would I believe made the difference in a few games like South Carolina and possibly Vandy. JG got tons of grace from throwing up a few 50 50 balls successfully. The guy is really is not very dynamic and has NO RUNNING ABILITY. Itll be extremely discouraging to see him at the top of the depth chart next season. Thoughts on the chances are that Pruitt moves to start a freshman next seaon?
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Give it a rest bruh..... Drew Brees couldn't have done much with the Exlax
 
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NEVolFan said:
Pruitt will need to grow a pair, and if JG gets his feelings hurt, tough sheet.
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As people lose interest in Tennessee football it will become apparent and Pruitts DRY answers will be to his determent. People will overlook it and give him a chance to start with as they have this year. Next year could be troublesome. Defense especially was his. How can he sign his name to that. Then again, Alabama didn't seem to miss him at all.
 
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utfan72408 said:
Yeah the overreactions on JG are out in full force tonight. I'm done going to bat for the guy, I think he's average at best, but he's absolutely not worse than Rick Clausen and he is ABSOLUTELY not worse than Justin Worley.
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He is average and every other SEC team had above average to great QB play with a couple others being questionable
 
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orange plasma said:
IMO being stubborn about keeping JG at the helm was the biggest mistake all season. I realize that it's easy to blame the QB but he's clearly not capable of generating sufficient offense for Tn to be competitive consistently. Allowing Chryst to get more reps and gel with this offense earlier in the season would I believe made the difference in a few games like South Carolina and possibly Vandy. JG got tons of grace from throwing up a few 50 50 balls successfully. The guy is really is not very dynamic and has NO RUNNING ABILITY. Itll be extremely discouraging to see him at the top of the depth chart next season. Thoughts on the chances are that Pruitt moves to start a freshman next seaon?
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Hindsight is 20/20. IMO, Pruitt looked at a guy with physical ability but what appeared to be poor development and made a choice to invest this season in him rather than a guy like KC.

What we saw of KC vs Mizzou wasn't an anomaly. He did some good things. I've argued the good things he did point to the weaknesses in JG's game. But he did some really, really bad things too plus he's physically limited. At times, KC looked like a coach's kid... savvy, heady, smart. Other times his decisions were just headscratchers. That is what cost him the starting job at Stanford too... and there he had a great run game and OL.

JG not being a great option... doesn't mean that KC was.

I'll get slammed for saying this... but the QB position would have been more "interesting" if Dormady had not left.
 
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VolsGrad1989 said:
It is AT LEAST DEBATEABLE!!! JG has not shown me anything. A lot of the balls JG completed vs Auburn were 50/50. He still throws a lot of passes behind the WRs, checks down all the time when not necessary, and stares down one receiver and doesn't go through progressions most of the time with this being his third year as a college QB. I am not one to blame the O performance on JG alone. But, I am tired of the OL and play calling being ALL THE BLAME. JG IS NOT EVEN A GOOD SEC QB, MUCH LESS ELITE!!! You don't get to Atlanta with a below average to average on the best days QB!!!
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We have no idea what this offense is supposed to look like or what JG has been told. He's obviously doing what the coaches tell him, because they've been more than complimentary and haven't pull the plug on him. You are just frustrated and looking to blame SOMETHING.
 
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Volumnus 2011 said:
Ridiculous.
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So I looked up stats. Rick Clausen played two seasons for UT, the same as JG thus far. Clausen's stats are first, followed by JG's:

total yards passing: 2390 to 2765
14 TDS to 15 TDS
11 INTS to 4
58.5 COMP to 63.2
6.95 YPA to 7.66
12 sacks to 47

It should be noted that Clausen's weaker year was his second one, and that was 2005, which was the worst season in over two decades (5-7). So he was not playing with a world-beater squad that year.

47 sacks in two years = not a good QB.
 
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utfan72408 said:
I don't understand how anyone comes away from these games thinking Keller Chryst would have made a demonstrable difference for us at QB. Do we go 6-6 instead of 5-7 with Chryst instead? I severely, severely doubt that. I get it, JG is nothing special at all, but it's not like it would have made a difference.

1) What games would we have won with Chryst that we lost this year?
2) Would we have still won the games we did win this year, with Chryst starting instead?
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Just for clarification, i am not in no way debating which qb is better. They both have their issues but i do believe KC moves the ball better.
 
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utfan72408 said:
Yeah the overreactions on JG are out in full force tonight. I'm done going to bat for the guy, I think he's average at best, but he's absolutely not worse than Rick Clausen and he is ABSOLUTELY not worse than Justin Worley.
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Rick Clausen was not a very good QB and at this point I believe the exact same thing can be said for JG. JG has the upper hand in stats but based on what we have seen thus far does anybody believe that JG would have been able to execute a comeback @ Death Valley similar to what Clausen did ? That alone gives Clausen the upper hand in my book. Again , both mediocre Qb’s but at least Clausen gave those of us old enough to remember anything pre- Kiffin that highlight.
 
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chattavol420 said:
Some fans I swear man. What in the hell have you been watching? He set the record for one because a handful of terribly thrown passes were misplayed by defenders and secondly...he checks down everything. Ive never seen a TN qb take less chances with the ball. We never ever throw down the middle of the field. Every throw is right at or just beyond the line of scrimmage. Since your so into stastics look into how many yards pr pass completion jg averages. I guarantee it's one of the lowest in TN history.
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Per completion dont know off hand but per attempt is over 8, which is in fact among the best in UT history. Sorry that your bias prevented you from seeing him for the efficient qb that he is.
 
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