Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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McGeesPub said:
You’re harping on a false equivalence, essentially. The only time the rabidity of the fan base has affected anything in the last ten years is the Schiano thing. So unless you think that was a negative, the administration hasn’t been held hostage at any point in our spiral by the rabidity of the fan base.

Where the fan base does come in is in the amount of revenue. So what is really a danger is fan apathy, not rabidity. Your message of “F— You Fanbase” is actually quite a bit more injurious to the program than enabling fan rabidity.
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You’re right. Fans will vote with their feet and stop paying to see ballgames if dissatisfied. And all I’m saying is ignore that if it happens too early in a coach’s tenure before he’s gotten on solid footing (i.e., look past it). Look past the inevitable media hot seat noise too.

Pick a guy who is ultra competitive, a hard worker, loves recruiting and that understands the conference and give him 6 years and look past the noise in the early years. I’m certain you won’t be disappointed that you did. Half of being successful in this conference is just surviving.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
There was a big turn on this board. The first half of the coaching search was everyone saying that Currie is a ninja, a superstar, who wouldn’t let money stop him from hiring the best coach in the world. Heck, we might even get Gruden. If not Gruden, we’ll pay Chris Petersen 10 mil to coach here! We were confident.

Then there was the other half after we learned that Currie was an incompetent fraud being ordered around by Haslam and his ilk and that he didn’t care about winning at all, just money and buildings. During the Schiano/borin Doeren debacle, we would have taken almost anyone else. We went from confident to desperate real quick. Thankfully papaw Phil saved us.
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JohnD13 said:
You must have been a different board than the rest of us...
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Uh, no. Pretty much what Bass said is pretty much exactly what happened. You must have been over in the FF.
 
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vol2002 said:
You’re right. Fans will vote with their feet and stop paying to see ballgames if dissatisfied. And all I’m saying is ignore that if it happens too early in a coach’s tenure before he’s gotten on solid footing (i.e., look past it). Look past the inevitable media hot seat noise too.

Pick a guy who is ultra competitive, a hard worker, loves recruiting and that understands the conference and give him 6 years and look past the noise in the early years. I’m certain you won’t be disappointed that you did. Half of being successful in this conference is just surviving.
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I don’t mean to keep picking at it because you are making your point with civility, but I just don’t think that strategy can work in practice with how the business has evolved. Fulmer would probably have more credibility to pull it off than Currie, Hart, et al though.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
They interviewed that Celina Summers on Ainge's show yesterday. She studied, maybe wrote a book about ShiaNO. Said it changed the landscape of how universities make high profile hiring decisions. Said it makes them accountable. Said the days of showing up with signs is over and that colleges everywhere took notice.
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She's a great follow on Twitter.
 
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McGeesPub said:
I’ll be honest, I had an easier time figuring out what predecessor meant than this post.
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Sorry. I got alerts that two of my posts were deleted from that thread. So many CBs were rolling in for us for Khafre Brown that people started joking about it. Since most of us are extremely sophomoric, you can probably imagine what kind of jokes were being made. I am now going to go google predecessor.
 
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vol2002 said:
Tennessee is a place where if it were possible, it could be viewed as a hidden gem in the coaching world. Great proximity to talent, great facilities, beautiful campus. Hasn’t been consistently good in a while so there’s a chance to distinguish yourself. People have won big here before.

But the problem is that it has millions of rabid fans, many of whom watch and love to second guess every move. It has a local media presence that rivals an NFL team that is constantly drumming around for content both good and bad to pass off to that rabid fanbase. And the traditional schedule is terrible, as it is frontloaded with elite inconference programs and has a permanent game against Bama in a series our fans expect to turn quickly (and smugly believe we will win 7 straight against soon just like before - “it’s streaky!”).

I can see the hesitancy to put your career on the line to step into this volatile mess.

I think that is what Currie faced as much as anything.
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John did what his bosses who got him hired told him to do. It wasn’t illegal so he could not go there. It was a combination of events and miscalculations. But the bottom line is he did what his bosses told him to do and it backfired and he was the scrape goat. Most of us would’ve done the same thing if our employer told us to do it. Personally, I would’ve resigned before hiring Schiano. I also would’ve not been hired in the first place as a yes man. But that is exactly what happened to John. He was a pencil pusher AD. Not what we needed. Glad he is gone but he was a puppet and wouldn’t have got the job if he had not agreed to it. Now back to my hole.
 
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bignewt said:
I just used it as a comparison. Jake said the vocal chowder heads of our fanbase are the minority and I say they are more than likely the majority.
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you know it is kinda funny. i think about conversations i have with my brother and my dad about TN football and i find myself getting increasingly annoyed with them.

maybe i am wrong. i'm pretty sure im the only rational ut fan in my family..........there is something to the notion of why "hot takes" rule the world these days...most people are fairly uneducated about whatever it is they feel the need to opine about. and being ignorant isn't stopping folks from blabbering on about it.......

i still think the majority are probably more rational.

but that majority may not be as "overhwhelming" as i originally thought. there are a lot of morans out there.
 
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