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Me reading this thread since last night.
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Its going to be what its going to be. Win, lose, or draw. Pruitt will be here for the foreseeable future however the season plays out. And he is going to be a hell of a coach that will build us a great football team. We really dont have many other options other than let it play out.
 
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SugarCC said:
Absolutely, my man!

My problem is, from the Admin to the coaches, to the players to the fans, we all have been in such disarray for far too long now, and last year and coaching search was such an epic disaster...I truly believe we have found the man in Pruitt, and everything is now in place, to get us back to a top 5 program; and I'm just a bit defensive and always on guard against what I may sometime percieve, wrongly sometimes, someone trying to tear it down, before it even gets started, you know. If that makes any sense...
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Even if we lose and I claim this year was a failure that doesn't mean I want to tear it down. In fact I say the effect on the future is minimal. I just think if we lose the clock
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Darth_Shiveman said:
So what do y’all think are our bigg st questions heading into Saturday?

IMO:

1. Will the defense play competently like they did against Auburn and UK or will we see the unit who played against USCe and Mizzou?

2. Will the OL get things going like they did against USCe and UK or will they look like they did against Charlotte and Mizzou?


If we can win in the trenches, I think we win this one prettt comfortably.
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I think it all comes down to "want to". We've seen what they're capable of. Do they play for the chance at a bowl? Do they play for pride? Have they flushed the toilet on the season and are ready to put it behind them? What is their motivation? We know there are some bad attitudes on this teams, do those bad apples spoil the whole bushel?

I think we'll know pretty early in the game.
 
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Chief Vol 13 said:
Some of you people are incredible. So you must think Kentucky is a top 15 team because the polls say they are. My opinion, which is most likely reality, is that they're not a top 15 football team. That what you think? He said Tennessee had THE most difficult schedule, he didn't say top 5. That's incorrect. Stop moving the goal posts.
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You love you.
 
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if we lose the clock Ticks quicker on Pruitt with the locals - This assumes the locals can tell time which I doubt is possible for some.
 
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Volator said:
if we lose the clock Ticks quicker on Pruitt with the locals - This assumes the locals can tell time which I doubt is possible for some.
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no, it's an assumption that there's a majority out there already ready to string him up, and moreover, are waiting for a reason to.

there's not.

it's the same as it's always been, a vocal minority that can't help themselves. they love to hear themselves talk.

it's the reason they say the same things over and over again, regardless of what's going on. responses are as predictable as a pavlovian response. it's the same reason it's the same people that call in to the local radio shows. you hear them every day. they have the same basic message, and it rarely ever changes.

if that's how we're defining locals, then there's a point. if it's meant in some broader view, it misses the mark.
 
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AngryButchJones said:
SB Nation's SOS has the Vols' schedule as the toughest in all of college football.
Résumé S&P+, a better CFB strength of schedule ranking

ESPN's FPI doesn't do overall SOS that I can find, just "remaining SOS," but UT has played 7 teams in the top 30 of the FPI.
Tennessee 2018 FPI - Volunteers - ESPN

Sagarin ratings has the Vols' schedule as the 4th-toughest in college football.
College Football Ratings Page

That enough citations for you, Chief?
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What about him saying Tennessee had the toughest schedule in college football is so hard to understand? He didnt say one of, didn't say top 5, he said it was the toughest. You found one article here. You'll find more who do not have Tennessee at the top. That's the bottom line.
 
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Chief Vol 13 said:
Good ol Moses just keeps coming back for more butt whippings. Well you dialed it back on your first point, as you should have. Most of the "experts" said Arkansas and Vanderbilt were the two worst teams in the league prior to the season. So, no other coach has had two signature wins in their first season, making it "decades" since it last occurred. So Kiffin's wins against South Carolina and Georgia in his first year weren't signature wins? Because by your definition, they would be. Wrong again. I also haven't crapped on the Kentucky or Auburn wins, as I've stated on numerous occasions that they were very nice wins. Especially the Auburn win. Don't know why you're chasing that rabbit. And as you and I both said, it's at best debatable to say he's gotten "every last ounce" out of this team. If he loses to Vanderbilt to finish 5-7, that's going to be a no. The strength of schedule argument is exactly that. An argument. You said we played the toughest schedule in all of college football. That's another homeristic opinion, that isn't backed up by anything. Because just about every list and SOC ranking I've looked at, does not have Tennessee's schedule ranked as the toughest. So really just about every point I've touched on is either an opinion by you, or it's just wrong.
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Ok, man; whatever you have to tell yourself to get to sleep on the nights mama isn't there to tuck you in.

I've told you what I heard, myself, the "experts" say, coming into this season. As I said, I heard 2 or 3 of them flat out say they expected us to go winless again this year; and if we went winless again this year, what does, or should, that tell you.

No, I don't consider Kiffin's win over UGA in '09 a signature win, considering: UT was favored in that game, it was at home, and UGA was not ranked, nor were they ranked at the end of the year. We we're supposed to win it. If you don't believe me, do your research, and look it up.

And you have been shown by me, and a few others in here, about the schedule; but, by all means, keep flailing about.

I can see how much "winning" these debates you worm yourself into means to you, and what they seem to mean for your manhood... so be my guess, take one on me.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I guess. CJP opened himself to criticism over last year's signing day by chosing to stay with Bama and collect a $234,000 bonus drom the Tide for coaching the BCS championship game. Maybe if he'd given us 100% of his time he might have brought in a couple more guys who could've made the difference against SC and, if necessary, Vandy. I'm not seeing a top 10 class this cycle either. We need some positive momentum.
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Chip Kelly wouldn’t leave the ESPN studio to get started with his team and the class he inherited dropped about 10 spots and this upcoming one’s a Hail Mary away from top 80! Home run hires yo...😎
 
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BruinVol said:
Even if we lose and claim this year was a failure that doesn't mean I want to tear it down. In fact I say the effect on the future is minimal. I just think if we lose the clock
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Totally agree.
 
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BruinVol said:
Even if we lose and claim this year was a failure that doesn't mean I want to tear it down. In fact I say the effect on the future is minimal. I just think if we lose the clock
Ticks quicker on Pruitt with the locals
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My take on it as well. Vandy is a winnable game and there's a ton on the line. Go win that game. Auburn and UK were good wins, but so what? Now we're in position to take the next step. Just have to beat a bad Vandy team. We have more talent than them, although they have more consistency and continuity.

But all that said, a loss won't be disastrous. I'm not sure that 15 bowl practices mean all that much in the grand scheme of things. Although I could see Pruitt barely gameplanning for whoever our opponent is and instead using them to develop the team across the board, which is probably the right way to do it when you're rebuilding a program. No one remembers if you won the Liberty Bowl in year one.
 
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SugarCC said:
Ok, man; whatever you have to tell yourself to get to sleep on the nights mama isn't there to tuck you in.

I've told you what I heard, myself, the "experts" say, coming into this season. As I said, I heard 2 or 3 of them flat out say they expected us to go winless again this year; and if we went winless again this year, what does, or should, that tell you.

No, I don't consider Kiffin's win over UGA in '09 a signature win, considering: UT was favored in that game, it was at home, and UGA was not ranked, nor were they ranked at the end of the year. We we're supposed to win it. If you don't believe me, do your research, and look it up.

And you have been shown by me, and a few others in here, about the schedule; but, by all means, keep flailing about.

I can see how much "winning" these debates you worm yourself into means to you, and what they seem to mean for your manhood... so be my guess, take one on me.
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Now it's two or three said Tennessee would go winless. In your original post, you said most had Tennessee pegged as the worst team in the SEC. Moving the goalposts. Not sure about us being favored in the 09 UGA game. You might can find some bum Egypt article that suggests that, but in large part, that was seen as a signature win. I'm going based off of what you said regarding the schedule. Once again, YOU said we had the toughest schedule in CFB. Most SOC rankings suggest otherwise.
 
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SpringBokVol said:
Going 5-7 sucks.

Going 6-6 sucks

Going 7-5 sucks

But that’s where we are as a program.

Pruitt is the right guy for the rebuild. And I believe that this is the worst year he will have here.

It should be.

But this year and next year it is about silver linings.

That’s just the reality.
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The only way he doesn't get it done here is if he gets taken down by a scandal or something. He's everything you want in a coach, personality-wise. He's singularly focused on winning football games. The last three guys weren't.
 
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Chief, I have a question.. I dont think I will be using it how you think I will but here it goes... Where are you in age? low, mid, high 20s, 30s, what? I think you've said it before.
 
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Chief Vol 13 said:
Good ol Moses just keeps coming back for more butt whippings. Well you dialed it back on your first point, as you should have. Most of the "experts" said Arkansas and Vanderbilt were the two worst teams in the league prior to the season. So, no other coach has had two signature wins in their first season, making it "decades" since it last occurred. So Kiffin's wins against South Carolina and Georgia in his first year weren't signature wins? Because by your definition, they would be. Wrong again. I also haven't crapped on the Kentucky or Auburn wins, as I've stated on numerous occasions that they were very nice wins. Especially the Auburn win. Don't know why you're chasing that rabbit. And as you and I both said, it's at best debatable to say he's gotten "every last ounce" out of this team. If he loses to Vanderbilt to finish 5-7, that's going to be a no. The strength of schedule argument is exactly that. An argument. You said we played the toughest schedule in all of college football. That's another homeristic opinion, that isn't backed up by anything. Because just about every list and SOC ranking I've looked at, does not have Tennessee's schedule ranked as the toughest. So really just about every point I've touched on is either an opinion by you, or it's just wrong.
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Kiffin didn't beat a ranked UGA team in '09. UGA was 3-2 entering that game. They had been ranked #18 2 weeks prior to the UT game, but had lost to LSU the week prior to UT and had fallen out of the top 25 (and finished the regular season 7-5). It was a good win for Kiffin/UT because it was a rival and first year Kiffin defeated the veteran Richt, but it was not a signature win.
 
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