2018 Midterm Election Thread

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05_never_again said:
@lawgator1 - to your point about why it is Republicans always being the ones to "not want to count votes" - it is because this stuff always seems to happen in counties/precincts where the total number of votes could actually change the election (i.e., urban, densely-populated, Democratic areas). Conveniently.
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It’s just like all dead voters seeming to always vote Democrat . I think if We look hard enough We can find a link to both of those things 🤔
 
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tumscalcium said:
Republicans want one vote for one eligible person. It’s not hard.
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hog88 said:
Voting should take some effort and be secure.
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05_never_again said:
In this case, isn't it more like trying to figure out where about 78k ballots came from 2 days after the election?
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Every vote will be linked to a number reflecting a registered voter. It ought to be easy to make sure that every vote they are counting is in fact linked to a voter. As they are electronically recorded, you can see when and where they were recorded.

If you want to claim that the systems within these counties are doing a poor job of compiling the data quickly and efficiently, fine. But that is no reason not to count a vote, linked to a registered voter, and electronically recorded as having been cast at a place and time that counts.

Trump, Rick Scott, and you, are just flat out making up the claim that votes are being created after the fact. It is disgusting. It is decidedly un-American and anti-democratic.

If you, or they, have some proof that the votes being counted are not linked to registered voters or are not recorded as to time and place, I'm all ears.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Every vote will be linked to a number reflecting a registered voter. It ought to be easy to make sure that every vote they are counting is in fact linked to a voter. As they are electronically recorded, you can see when and where they were recorded.

If you want to claim that the systems within these counties are doing a poor job of compiling the data quickly and efficiently, fine. But that is no reason not to count a vote, linked to a registered voter, and electronically recorded as having been cast at a place and time that counts.

Trump, Rick Scott, and you, are just flat out making up the claim that votes are being created after the fact. It is disgusting. It is decidedly un-American and anti-democratic.

If you, or they, have some proof that the votes being counted are not linked to registered voters or are not recorded as to time and place, I'm all ears.
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What do you mean making it up? Those totals came from the Broward County Supervisor of Elections office. How do you count 634k ballots on election night, then 2 days later report you have over 700k total counted, with "an unknown number" remaining?

I'm not saying that the votes were created after the fact. I'm not saying or suggesting fraud took place. I just don't know how you don't get everything counted on election night, and here we are 3 days later supposedly with more left to count. It could be pure incompetence, perhaps some intentional incompetence, to drag this thing out. And of course it is occurring only in a couple of counties where it could make a difference.
 
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05_never_again said:
What do you mean making it up? Those totals came from the Broward County Supervisor of Elections office. How do you count 634k ballots on election night, then 2 days later report you have over 700k total counted, with "an unknown number" remaining?

I'm not saying that the votes were created after the fact. I'm not saying or suggesting fraud took place. I just don't know how you don't get everything counted on election night, and here we are 3 days later supposedly with more left to count. It could be pure incompetence, perhaps some intentional incompetence, to drag this thing out. And of course it is occurring only in a couple of counties where it could make a difference.
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Well then what are you saying?

Don't count a vote because the pollworkers were slow in getting the results in? What about the servicemen and women whose absentee ballots are coming in and are allowed to for up to ten days?

It is far too simplistic for the apparent victor to say that "Oh, that's it, game over" when the first tally flashes across the tv screen. And again, if you want to criticize them for having a system, that is slow in counting all ballots, fine. Good point. But not a reason to ignore a properly cast ballot when we are well within the lawful period of time for counting of ballots.
 
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05_never_again said:
What do you mean making it up? Those totals came from the Broward County Supervisor of Elections office. How do you count 634k ballots on election night, then 2 days later report you have over 700k total counted, with "an unknown number" remaining?
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I think it’s because Broward started having issues with their system Tuesday night. Which stalled the voting.

My problem is they’ve left everyone in the dark and completely refused to answer questions, which is a violation of Florida law. Votes started pouring in early Wednesday morning and not many people knew why
 
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lawgator1 said:
Well then what are you saying?

Don't count a vote because the pollworkers were slow in getting the results in? What about the servicemen and women whose absentee ballots are coming in and are allowed to for up to ten days?

It is far too simplistic for the apparent victor to say that "Oh, that's it, game over" when the first tally flashes across the tv screen. And again, if you want to criticize them for having a system, that is slow in counting all ballots, fine. Good point. But not a reason to ignore a properly cast ballot when we are well within the lawful period of time for counting of ballots.
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It seems like BS, that's what I'm saying. Intentional foot-dragging, intentional incompetence. Not suggesting fabricated votes.

Election night comes and goes, Nelson more or less concedes (though not explicitly), and everyone seems prepared to move on, then 2 days after the election highly populated, heavily Dem counties say they have "an unknown" number of ballots left to count. How in the hell does that happen? Do they at least have a reason why 78k+ ballots weren't counted on election night, or really early Wednesday morning? Because they aren't really saying anything at the moment.
 
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n_huffhines said:
You're calling me a fake libertarian because I called out conservatives on national debt. Think about this long and hard, then get back to me.
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What is a Conservative?
Conservatives are for the Constitution, except the 4th and 10th amendments.

Conservatives are against a big federal government, except all the programs that currently exist as shown by their explicit unwillingness to cut any programs while controlling the presidency and Congress.

Conservatives are the party of fiscal responsibility except for the 1 trillion dollar deficit and piling on the 21 trillion dollar national debt.

Conservatives are for free trade except for tariffs any item or activity that offends their delicate sensibilities.

Conservatives worship the founders of this country except the idea we would stay out foreign entanglements and adventures.

Conservatives are for lower taxes. They want a top marginal tax of 37% as opposed to a rate of 37.0000000001%.

Conservatives are basically liberals that are an election cycle behind.
 
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JCP201 said:
Nobody in our local election was a far left socialist candidate. Nobody in my local election has anything to do with whether Brett Kavanaugh assaulted a woman or not.

Personally, I think It would have been nice to have a centrist like Bredesen in our Senate. Unfortunately, the Abraham Lincolns of this country are being voted out because people hate simply due to your political affiliation and do no research or care. (See post above)

My wish is political parties end. Just think, bias news would have to end, too.
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Bredesen is not a centrist idealogically. He couldn't get away with advancing a socialist agenda in a state like Tennessee. He was bought and paid for by Chuck shumer and Micheal Bloomberg. He would have voted exactly as Chuck and Nancy told him to.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Bredesen is not a centrist idealogically. He couldn't get away with advancing a socialist agenda in a state like Tennessee. He was bought and paid for by Chuck shumer and Micheal Bloomberg. He would have voted exactly as Chuck and Nancy told him to.
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Who knows what his actual ideology is. I don't think many of them have an actual ideology - they are politicians who will morph into any position necessary to increase political power.

Bredesen was absolutely a centrist as governor, which makes sense in Tennessee where he had to bend to a State Legislature that is heavily Republican. I agree with you that as a US Senator, he'd vote exactly as the party told him to.
 
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05_never_again said:
Who knows what his actual ideology is. I don't think many of them have an actual ideology - they are politicians who will morph into any position necessary to increase political power.

Bredesen was absolutely a centrist as governor, which makes sense in Tennessee where he had to bend to a State Legislature that is heavily Republican. I agree with you that as a US Senator, he'd vote exactly as the party told him to.
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His favoritism for socialized medicine was all I needed to know.
 
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MG1968 said:
SIAP, but the democrats' "future" is getting a taste of reality

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, new youngest Congresswoman, says she can't afford D.C. apartment
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Just read this - the quote below shows she's building her narrative

"There are many little ways in which our electoral system isn't even designed (nor prepared) for working-class people to lead," Ocasio-Cortez tweeted Thursday, "This is one of them (don't worry btw - we're working it out!)."

Please, can't believe people buy into this BS.
 
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volinbham said:
Just read this - the quote below shows she's building her narrative

"There are many little ways in which our electoral system isn't even designed (nor prepared) for working-class people to lead," Ocasio-Cortez tweeted Thursday, "This is one of them (don't worry btw - we're working it out!)."

Please, can't believe people buy into this BS.
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Does she think she is working class?
 
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