The QB Debate - post South Carolina (merged)

[Zues1]

It really is funny to me to hear the uproar and concern about the Quarterback position within the fan base but hear national media praising JG. QB is the last of our issues this year.

Yeah well the national media also thought Schiano would be a good hire, so there's that.

That literally has nothing to do with this conversation.

Hmmm, you sure about that? Seems the national media was mentioned in this thread as some type of authority on the subject when history shows us they know squat and are nothing more than talking suits looking for ratings.

 

[DVols33]

The one silver lining in the Tennessee season: The emergence of Jarrett Guarantano
The losses keep piling up in Knoxville, but there is hope on the horizon. Specifically, there’s hope with QB Jarrett Guarantano. “That is one tough SOB,” one SEC coach said. “I don’t know how, if you’re playing on that team, you see that kid giving everything and don’t say, yeah, I gotta play like that, too.” In four games since an absolutely horrific performance against Florida (who on Tennessee didn’t play poorly against the Gators?), Guarantano has completed 65 percent of his passes for 741 yards, with 6 TDs and 0 INTs. This despite poor pass protection (10 sacks, 8 hurries, countless knockdowns). “If I’m (Tennessee coach) Jeremy (Pruitt), I’m pretty excited about the guy under center,” the SEC coach continued. “He may not be you’re a big-time (NFL) first-rounder, but he has talent and you cannot intimidate him. He does not get shaken.”


https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/what-im-hearing-about-sec-teams-in-week-10/

This is a JOKE, right. JG lacks the basic instincts to play QB and gets shaken when blitzed. He has a good arm, when not rushed, and as many times as he's hit the ground who wouldn't get shaken. But to say he is a silver lining when he has no vision of the field, can't read a D, Squats on drop back, has happy feet, doesn't get the job done and shows NO leadership on the field is a JOKE.

Stats padded by 5yrd routes and screen passes are misleading.

And coaches sing his praise is why we'll be looking for new coaching in just 2 years.

 

[DVols33]

It's pointless at this stage, let em keep crying for the backup, they just look dumber by the day. Hey NegaVols, guess who our starting QB is going to be the next 2 1/2 years!

What's Dumb is staying with the same old same old and LOSING.

 

[DVols33]

I hear something.....

Its the loud collective force of mouth-breathing goobers typing, "wE sHOulD sTIlL stART KC"

You know the number of JG fans is growing. He is the most loved player of ever team we play.

 

[DVols33]

It really is funny to me to hear the uproar and concern about the Quarterback position within the fan base but hear national media praising JG. QB is the last of our issues this year.

The amount of animosity some "fans" on this forum show toward JG is just mind-boggling. If there has ever been anyone that believes in giving his all for Tennessee, it is JG. Each and every game, he takes it to heart as he slaps the sign heading out into the tunnel. Does he have areas he needs to improve upon? Absolutely, but that can be said for about 99.99% of the college QBs playing this year. Will he improve? With our current coaching staff, I have no doubt he will continue to improve. He has made tremendous strides this season. Will another QB take his starting spot next year? Possibly, but the coaches will decide that based on practice, skill sets, and leadership abilities.

There is a difference between being a fan and a fanatic. Our players need more fans and less fanatics.

Don't care how much commitment he has.... He ain't winning. And isn't that the priority?
And it's not putting him down to ask to see other QB's show what they can do. And at this point it's not like we's lose more games with a different QB.
Why are some so afraid of giving another QB a chance?

 

[DVols33]

I like JG but is one really good game considered an emergence?

The real question is would we be better off with KC? We'll never know cause apparently playing JG is more important than winning.

 

[Sin City Vol]

I like the kid and think he does a good job on a bad team. Chryst came in and played well at the end of the Bama game. JG is probably the toughest QB we’ve ever had and there’s not many QBs in this country who could take the punishment he’s take and still keep going

 

[volfannbama]

The real question is would we be better off with KC? We'll never know cause apparently playing JG is more important than winning.

Dont know, I have no control over that so I dont worry about it. Backup qb is always a popular position when a team struggles.
My guess is playing KC does nothing to help us next year and everyone knew this year.wasnt gonna be good.

 

[Sin City Vol]

Don't care how much commitment he has.... He ain't winning. And isn't that the priority?
And it's not putting him down to ask to see other QB's show what they can do. And at this point it's not like we's lose more games with a different QB.
Why are some so afraid of giving another QB a chance?

What do you expect from him???? I mean Jesus he can’t play D or play on the o-line or rush the passer. This team has soooooooo many issues and JG has been a bright spot on this team

 

[Duckyvol59]

I'm sure there are 8 SEC coaches the next 2 seasons that would love to tell us how great he is and that we need to keep him on the field. I just don't see the IT factor. A career in the MMA is very possible with the way he takes hits.

 

[VolFaninFla]

The amount of animosity some "fans" on this forum show toward JG is just mind-boggling. If there has ever been anyone that believes in giving his all for Tennessee, it is JG. Each and every game, he takes it to heart as he slaps the sign heading out into the tunnel. Does he have areas he needs to improve upon? Absolutely, but that can be said for about 99.99% of the college QBs playing this year. Will he improve? With our current coaching staff, I have no doubt he will continue to improve. He has made tremendous strides this season. Will another QB take his starting spot next year? Possibly, but the coaches will decide that based on practice, skill sets, and leadership abilities.

There is a difference between being a fan and a fanatic. Our players need more fans and less fanatics.

I am not trying to call you out or challenge you. Just curious what the difference is between a fan and a fanatic.

 

[Doberman]

I see a lot of folks (including this SDS writer), making a martyr out of a tackling dummy with a good chin.

I see others making the kid into one of the worst QBs to ever see a field.

The reality is in between. He’s meh.

May not lose you many, but won’t win you many either. He just is.

 

[InstrumentalVol]

Lol you JG haters should go read @SECMike's twitter feed about how good JG is. Mike is roasting you haters.

 

[DVols33]

Dont know, I have no control over that so I dont worry about it. Backup qb is always a popular position when a team struggles.
My guess is playing KC does nothing to help us next year and everyone knew this year.wasnt gonna be good.

Your point is hard to argue with but not giving play time to other QBs when current QB isn't winning might hurt us in recruiting QBs.

 

[VolInNorthCack]

Some people....

Look, Guarantano is on his 3rd Offensive coordinator.
He's really on his 1st QB coach.
He's working behind a patchwork line.
We can't run the ball consistently to take some of the rush pressure off of him.
He is going from a RPO Spread something or other offense of Jones to the Pro-style of Helton.
AND he's probably been sore as hell since September.
All of that and he's done almost everything asked of him with only two INT's.

Yeah, he needs more work on reading and deciphering defenses so he can get the ball out a little sooner to the right read. But jeez... cut the 20-year old kid some slack. I've never been the guy's biggest fan, but i'm not blind to see his progression this year and the prospects of what he could be next year with another Spring under his belt and a solid O-line. I wouldn't have minded seeing what Chryst could have done in some games, but I think that time has passed and the team is JG's barring an injury or complete meltdown.

 

[DVols33]

What do you expect from him???? I mean Jesus he can’t play D or play on the o-line or rush the passer. This team has soooooooo many issues and JG has been a bright spot on this team

I don't expect anymore than he has given. Hustle doesn't make up for a lack of certain skills. I would expect a coach to try something else rather than lose. Many teams will run in another QB to try and spark some life into a team and when JG went down against bama some of us thought now we'll get to see. And we saw 2 TD drives that bama couldn't defend. But then in the second half the coach gave up and went to the run to slow the game down.

I have also given up on Pruitt seeing how he never gave KC another chance after the bama game and how he elected to take a knee with 45 secs, a time out and good field position. Some coaches and QBs simply win and others play to not lose or not lose badly.

 

[USMC-TNVOL]

Lol you JG haters should go read @SECMike's twitter feed about how good JG is. Mike is roasting you haters.

Nobody cares. But yeah, let's stick with the QB who has 8 passing TDs over 8 games, while the backup has 3 TDs in about 4 quarters, or maybe it's less than that? Also, it was against Alabama and Florida. Decent teams I'd say.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

I don't expect anymore than he has given. Hustle doesn't make up for a lack of certain skills. I would expect a coach to try something else rather than lose. Many teams will run in another QB to try and spark some life into a team and when JG went down against bama some of us thought now we'll get to see. And we saw 2 TD drives that bama couldn't defend. But then in the second half the coach gave up and went to the run to slow the game down.

I have also given up on Pruitt seeing how he never gave KC another chance after the bama game and how he elected to take a knee with 45 secs, a time out and good field position. Some coaches and QBs simply win and others play to not lose or not lose badly.

“KC torching Bama’s defense” is so overrated considering he was not facing the same defense that JG was beginning of the game.

Saban clearly took his foot off the gas.

 

[USMC-TNVOL]

“KC torching Bama’s defense” is so overrated considering he was not facing the same defense that JG was beginning of the game.

Saban clearly took his foot off the gas.

Yet everyone says none of our players would even be backups on Alabama's team, but since KC played them they must be trash.

 

[DVols33]

“KC torching Bama’s defense” is so overrated considering he was not facing the same defense that JG was beginning of the game.

Saban clearly took his foot off the gas.

1st of all that same D with their foot off the gas put JG out of the game.
2nd I would say that Bama's 2nd is better than SC.
And finally that's a lame excuse for not playing KC at least 1 series in the SC game.

Still can't understand what the JG lovers are afraid of by letting KC play. It's not like it will affect the outcome of the game.... Or maybe we win rather than lose... maybe that's what the JG lovers are afraid of... KC wins where JG loses?

 

[VolFreakJosh]

1st of all that same D with their foot off the gas put JG out of the game.
2nd I would say that Bama's 2nd is better than SC.
And finally that's a lame excuse for not playing KC at least 1 series in the SC game.

Still can't understand what the JG lovers are afraid of by letting KC play. It's not like it will affect the outcome of the game.... Or maybe we win rather than lose... maybe that's what the JG lovers are afraid of... KC wins where JG loses?

Pruitt thinks JG gives us the best chance to win.

Yes, he makes mistakes but he’s been pretty consistent this season so far.

It has nothing to do with people who support JG, being afraid of KC because most of us ain’t.

 

[Volhoops]

Is this the same national media that praised Butch and Dooley ? What are they now 8 games into the season. Stats I found show JG with only 8 TD passes with 174 passing attempts. Mean while Chryst with only 28 attempts has 3 TD while playing very limited times. Sorry but can't get excited about a starting QB with only 8 passing TD this far into the season. Doesn't look like very good production which is reflected in the team record.

 

[thehill98]

1st of all that same D with their foot off the gas put JG out of the game.
2nd I would say that Bama's 2nd is better than SC.
And finally that's a lame excuse for not playing KC at least 1 series in the SC game.

Still can't understand what the JG lovers are afraid of by letting KC play. It's not like it will affect the outcome of the game.... Or maybe we win rather than lose... maybe that's what the JG lovers are afraid of... KC wins where JG loses?

How many points did KC lead them to after halftime of the Bama game? What were his stats after halftime?

 

[Volinnooga]

That's not what OP implied...at all.

Come on; don't get in the way of someone with an agenda.

 

[Volumnus 2011]

1st of all that same D with their foot off the gas put JG out of the game.
2nd I would say that Bama's 2nd is better than SC.
And finally that's a lame excuse for not playing KC at least 1 series in the SC game.

Still can't understand what the JG lovers are afraid of by letting KC play. It's not like it will affect the outcome of the game.... Or maybe we win rather than lose... maybe that's what the JG lovers are afraid of... KC wins where JG loses?

Ok, listen. We get it. You don't like Pruitt or JG. I looked at your profile and your posts. 95% of them are talking about about Pruitt or our starting quarterback. It's getting old. Express your opinion, fine, but you've posted nearly 200 times and they've all got the same theme. Give it a rest.