Pruitt gets 3 Years

#27
#27
If three years starts now, then it seems reasonable. Lettuce not forget that CJP took over, what, in December? He didn't get much of the recruiting cycle. Heck, he was still putting together a staff and on the heels of recruiting for the red menace.
Three years from now? O.K.
 
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cbatey1 said:
Those are reasonable expectations except year 3. Yes he will have some recruits under his belt but they will be young to very young and just starting to "maybe" fill the shoes he has for them. When his recruiting classes are juniors and seniors, we can come to a much clearer conclusion.

If I had to put a number on it, i'd say 8 wins will be great in year 3
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8 wins great for who? If you mean the players, golf clap for those rascals. If you mean Pruitt, it's probably not good enough to get him a better job at a successful program. If you mean the fans, I wager that the prospect of maybe getting to 8 whole wins in a season is not going to drive ticket sales to particularly lofty heights. The economic times are changing; they are cyclical and the cycle is turning down. UT tickets are going to become less of a staple and more of a discretionary purchase. 8 doesn't get it.
 
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It sucks that we're having this discussion before year 1 is complete. After 3 years, he'll have 2 full recruiting classes and so his job will depend on freshmen and sophomores plus the class he threw together and Jones guys. I think 3 full recruiting cycles minimum is reasonable. Particularly when you're changing schemes on both sides of the ball. He's not even able to run the full complement of plays that he has. We're running vanilla schemes as it is. I don't want to be an apologist, but you said reasonable. Geez.......what's unreasonable?
 
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I40flyer said:
Boy butch was unable to do a "rebuild" in five years-in fact he did a deconstruction of anything that was left; however, CP will field a much improved team next season, by year three-we'll be a top 25 all season.
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I agree..
 
#34
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I don't want to hear any serious talk about an extension until after the 2021 season, assuming CJP lasts that long. Bonuses are fine, maybe even a raise, but let's please not get drawn in to another knee jerk extension that could cost us millions more in stupid tax.
 
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He'll most likely get 4 at the least, and also, probably won't see substantial 2nd-year growth like most "successful" college coaches, given what we are seeing in year one.

Year 4 of his 6-year contract is make or break for him, he can either ask for a raise and an extension if he is having success by then, or Fulmer is going to have to start looking elsewhere if that's not the case.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I don't want to hear any serious talk about an extension until after the 2021 season, assuming CJP lasts that long. Bonuses are fine, maybe even a raise, but let's please not get drawn in to another knee jerk extension that could cost us millions more in stupid tax.
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They'll be talking extension at the end of next season if he just makes a bowl game.
 
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BeardedVol said:
He'll most likely get 4 at the least, and also, probably won't see substantial 2nd-year growth like most "successful" college coaches, given what we are seeing in year one.

Year 4 of his 6-year contract is make or break for him, he can either ask for a raise and an extension if he is having success by then, or Fulmer is going to have to start looking elsewhere if that's not the case.
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Fulmer's tenure is tied to Pruitts, Fulmer won't get another chance at hiring a HBC if CJP has to be fired.
 
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jakez4ut said:
you'd know mr. 6 years......lol.
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And you know what? You'd love to be in Kentucky's position right now. Too bad your fanbase has ruined the program calling for coach's head. Hint: that's why elite coaches don't come to UT- Unrealistic expectations like the OP.
 
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McCat said:
And you know what? You'd love to be in Kentucky's position right now. Too bad your fanbase has ruined the program calling for coach's head. Hint: that's why elite coaches don't come to UT- Unrealistic expectations like the OP.
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blah blah blah.

one hit wonder shows up to talk football.

ya'll don't pucker up in Knoxville in a couple weeks. y'all come down here nad lose....betcha we won't see you our your ilk around here to well in to bball season........lol.

and if you win....big deal, we suck remember?

lol....go bounce a ball.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
• First year I expected an up & down season with improvement. I think Pruitt has fairly managed that well by beating Auburn.

• Second year I expect to be competing on a consistent basis. No, I’m not saying we should beat Bama & Georgia. I’m expecting to be competitive with the likes of Mizz, SC, UK, and Vandy.

• Third year I expect 9 or 10 wins the most by having a chance to win the East. Pruitt will have two recruiting classes under his belt with the players he wants in his system. If he’s not winning on a consistent basis by then, his seat will and should get warmer.

I’m not asking to be National Champs but I expect to be in the SEC Championship (Winners of the East) sometime from now.

Seems pretty reasonable to me.
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Not to be snarky, but under your scenario Johnny Majors would have been fired before he got us to 10 wins, Mark Stoops would have been gone before Ky was where they are today and on and on. Majors had a major rebuild on his hands, as does Pruitt. I believe Coach Fulmer will know if the path is correct and give the time needed. People need to just chill and enjoy being around to watch this. I watched the Majors rebuild and though there were many tough losses, Bama 81 for example, their were some great ones too, 86 Sugar Bowl, for one. This is the first time since Doug Dickey retired that I feel comfortable with the Athletic Dept. Go Big Orange...
 
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#43
Substantive debate from an intellectual giant.

One hit wonder has been here at VN since 2005, so there's that.

jakez4ut said:
blah blah blah.

one hit wonder shows up to talk football.

ya'll don't pucker up in Knoxville in a couple weeks. y'all come down here nad lose....betcha we won't see you our your ilk around here to well in to bball season........lol.

and if you win....big deal, we suck remember?

lol....go bounce a ball.
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Year 4, the 18 recruiting class is what it is, middle of the pack in SEC. Add another year for real change so Im saying 4 years to show up.
 
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beamerman said:
Not to be snarky, but under your scenario Johnny Majors would have been fired before he got us to 10 wins, Mark Stoops would have been gone before Ky was where they are today and on and on. Majors had a major rebuild on his hands, as does Pruitt. I believe Coach Fulmer will know if the path is correct and give the time needed. People need to just chill and enjoy being around to watch this. I watched the Majors rebuild and though there were many tough losses, Bama 81 for example, their were some great ones too, 86 Sugar Bowl, for one. This is the first time since Doug Dickey retired that I feel comfortable with the Athletic Dept. Go Big Orange...
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Different eras, you can't compare then to now.
 
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there will be circumstances where this would not apply, but generally speaking, a new coach should probably get 4 cycles to recruit his players, develop and coach.

at the end of year 4, you should have a ver clear idea of what the coach is, and what the next 2-4 years would look like.

and that's what you make your decision on....generally speaking anyway.
 
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McCat said:
And you know what? You'd love to be in Kentucky's position right now. Too bad your fanbase has ruined the program calling for coach's head. Hint: that's why elite coaches don't come to UT- Unrealistic expectations like the OP.
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Joker Phillips?
 
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McCat said:
And you know what? You'd love to be in Kentucky's position right now. Too bad your fanbase has ruined the program calling for coach's head. Hint: that's why elite coaches don't come to UT- Unrealistic expectations like the OP.
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We have a lot of fans disappointed and surprised John Gruden didn’t come here. Look at the Raiders and the turmoil there. Congrats on your season and good luck against Ga. Please beat them and then still be thinking about that when we beat you. You beat Ga, win the East and still can lose to UT. Win for all. That’s my hope. You guys are still gonna lose to Bama because everyone does and that is no shame.
 
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