Pruitt gets 3 Years

#51
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
FWIW, Coaches Hot Seat rankings moved Pruitt from Safe for Now to Edge of Hot Seat, one spot below Kiffin.
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That's a bit ridiculous. He's safe for 3. He'll be judged fairly after year 2. Just needs to show improvement and not completely crap the bed. Butch would still be here if he could have pulled out 6 wins his last year.
 
#54
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VolFreakJosh said:
• First year I expected an up & down season with improvement. I think Pruitt has fairly managed that well by beating Auburn.

• Second year I expect to be competing on a consistent basis. No, I’m not saying we should beat Bama & Georgia. I’m expecting to be competitive with the likes of Mizz, SC, UK, and Vandy.

• Third year I expect 9 or 10 wins the most by having a chance to win the East. Pruitt will have two recruiting classes under his belt with the players he wants in his system. If he’s not winning on a consistent basis by then, his seat will and should get warmer.

I’m not asking to be National Champs but I expect to be in the SEC Championship (Winners of the East) sometime from now.

Seems pretty reasonable to me.
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The only person who gets to make that decision is named Haslam
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
• First year I expected an up & down season with improvement. I think Pruitt has fairly managed that well by beating Auburn.

• Second year I expect to be competing on a consistent basis. No, I’m not saying we should beat Bama & Georgia. I’m expecting to be competitive with the likes of Mizz, SC, UK, and Vandy.

• Third year I expect 9 or 10 wins the most by having a chance to win the East. Pruitt will have two recruiting classes under his belt with the players he wants in his system. If he’s not winning on a consistent basis by then, his seat will and should get warmer.

I’m not asking to be National Champs but I expect to be in the SEC Championship (Winners of the East) sometime from now.

Seems pretty reasonable to me.
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Reasonable right up to the point that the UT Admin doesn't give 2 sh*ts what you think is reasonable.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
You spelled 5 years wrong. Fulmer won't touch Pruitt for atleast 5 years as long as there are not any major scandals or issues like player safety or Pruitt having a motorcycle wreck like Petrino. Pruitt is guaranteed to do 2 things: recruit great classes and develop talent. Those are two things that Butch couldn't do in tandem and he got 5 years.

Fulmer knows better than anyone that Pruitt will at worst, leave the program (from a talent/development standpoint) in a hell of a lot better shape than he found it. Outside of fighting for bowl eligibility in year 3, he won't be close to the hot seat until year 4/5
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I agree. Fulmer knows as we all should that this program needs stability more than anything. Unless Pruitt gets caught in a scandal of some sort, or the team totally implodes on his watch, which no one expects, he will be the coach through 2022.
 
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Fulmer will also have to get support from the administration by year 3 for this ever to work out well. Pruitt or not, the boosters could be hiring another AD simultaneously if they are in control.
 
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McCat said:
And you know what? You'd love to be in Kentucky's position right now. Too bad your fanbase has ruined the program calling for coach's head. Hint: that's why elite coaches don't come to UT- Unrealistic expectations like the OP.
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If a regular season game where you're #11 and playing #6 is the "biggest game in school history" like some are saying, I know I wouldn't want that to be the biggest game in Tennessee's history.

Schools like Kentucky have to build up for years to have a season like this. Next year, you'll lose Snell, Allen, and some other guys. You can't really replicate seasons like this. You build up to a single one, blow your wad, then go back to just trying to make bowl games.

Also, I'm not sure how the fanbase has ruined the program by wanting coaches fired. The program was in obvious decline under Fulmer, Kiffin bolted, and it was obvious Dooley and Butch were failures when they were fired. I suppose an argument can be made for keeping Fulmer, but there was zero argument for keeping Dooley or Butch. Do you really think the program would be better off if either was given more time?
 
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McCat said:
And you know what? You'd love to be in Kentucky's position right now. Too bad your fanbase has ruined the program calling for coach's head. Hint: that's why elite coaches don't come to UT- Unrealistic expectations like the OP.
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You’re a good poster McCat.

Don’t take it personal but you cannot simply compare UK & UT and say that the expectations need to be similar.

UT has a rich tradition and the best facilities around. We have all the resources for a HC to be successful, however many years is on their contract.

UK can give Stoops 5+ years because they’re not known as a attractive job for big time coaches. Who are they going to get that’s any better? Exactly.

He’s done an excellent job getting UK into the running for the SEC Championship and landing a really good RB that didn’t have many big time offers in Snell.


The only thing I’ll give you is UK’s Administration is miles better than ours at the moment. The Haslams & their puppets don’t care about our athletics. They only care about the $$$ in their pockets.

But your statement is pretty much meaningless. No offense.

By that logic, Dooley should have gotten more time even though he flat out sucked as a HC.
 
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uvavol said:
Fulmer will also have to get support from the administration by year 3 for this ever to work out well. Pruitt or not, the boosters could be hiring another AD simultaneously if they are in control.
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The Administration never showed one ounce of wanting to can Butch until fans really got involved. Admin isn't gonna go up against Fulmer and "Fulmer Boosters".... Of course the administration are a bunch of pansies so I don't expect them all of the sudden grow a backbone.
 
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In case you haven't seen the last 4 UT coaching searches, UT isn't known as a attractive job for big time coaches either.
 
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We have zero talent. Mediocre qb, bad lines, god awful dbs. Mediocre athletes.

And our fan base is already griping about the coach lol. Can’t make this up.
 
#64
#64
3 years for going for it on 4th and 7 seems excessive to me.....
 
#65
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McCat said:
Get ready to fire him in 3 years then. You can't do a total rebuild in that time.
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Bullish!t. A good to average coach should be able to have us up to 9-10 wins by year 3. If he was great he’d do it by year 2.

OP isn’t asking for much. Hell, BJ almost got us in the SEC title game and he sucks.
 
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This is a 4 or 5 year rebuild to be a consistent 10+ win team. If Pruitt can show steady improvement I think he’ll get the time.
 
#69
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McCat said:
And you know what? You'd love to be in Kentucky's position right now. Too bad your fanbase has ruined the program calling for coach's head. Hint: that's why elite coaches don't come to UT- Unrealistic expectations like the OP.
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How the hell would you know what an elite coach looks like?

LMAO
 
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Elhanan said:
Bullish!t. A good to average coach should be able to have us up to 9-10 wins by year 3. If he was great he’d do it by year 2.

OP isn’t asking for much. Hell, BJ almost got us in the SEC title game and he sucks.
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Man, I just have to respectfully disagree. Maybe if TN played in the MAC or OVC a turnaround like that is possible. In the SEC, getting 9 to 10 wins would probably translate into a top 7-8 team, nationally. We play Alabama every year. UGA and UF aren't going away. Getting to 9-10 wins in three years, from where we are coming from and against UT's competition, would be a huge accomplishment. It's unrealistic expectations that are going to keep us in a cycle of mediocrity forever, I am afraid. Unless Pruitt just completely craps the bed, he is here through 2022. My opinion.
 
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You do realize you have to get the players in and they have to mature, you don't just start playing a bunch of freshmen and say they are your guys and expect to win. We will get better when we are not playing freshmen and sophomores. Listen to all the praise going around now for Stoops at Ky because they stuck with him and gave him 7 years. Now granted he has been close to being fired 2 during those years. We just have to be patient and support CJP.
 
#72
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McCat said:
Get ready to fire him in 3 years then. You can't do a total rebuild in that time.
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The hell you can’t. Perhaps not at a crap football program like Kentucky, but at Tennessee it can definitely be done with the right leadership in place. Matter of fact, it can be done, to a very large extent, in 2 years at blue blood programs like Tennessee.
 
#73
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VolFreakJosh said:
• First year I expected an up & down season with improvement. I think Pruitt has fairly managed that well by beating Auburn.

• Second year I expect to be competing on a consistent basis. No, I’m not saying we should beat Bama & Georgia. I’m expecting to be competitive with the likes of Mizz, SC, UK, and Vandy.

• Third year I expect 9 or 10 wins the most by having a chance to win the East. Pruitt will have two recruiting classes under his belt with the players he wants in his system. If he’s not winning on a consistent basis by then, his seat will and should get warmer.

I’m not asking to be National Champs but I expect to be in the SEC Championship (Winners of the East) sometime from now.

Seems pretty reasonable to me.
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Makes sense.

Think Year 2 really is the litmus test on most any head coach though. Generally seems to be the spot where most really good coaches makes the most improvement.
 
#74
#74
KBVol said:
The hell you can’t. Perhaps not at a crap football program like Kentucky, but at Tennessee it can definitely be done with the right leadership in place. Matter of fact, it can be done, to a very large extent, in 2 years at blue blood programs like Tennessee.
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Cool. keep firing them, then. We crap programs will reap the benefit.
 
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