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Vols4us said:
More a function of when they played - first half versus second half. When you look at the expanded stats, over two thirds of the sacks occurred in the first half with JG, probably the hurries and hits as well. Once adjustments are made at half time it gets much better. Some of it is the average time in getting the ball out of JG's hands. Chryst is quicker. A big part is who Helton has started at G each game, which is where most of the breakdowns are occurring in the first half.
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It's shows the opposite of what you are saying and I would have thought the same
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Man... just looked out my back door to see a couple of feet of large cobra colored snake heading around the corner.

Reluctantly, I head out the front door, cage the dog, and grab the hoe and machette... not really looking forward to this. I round the corner just long enough to see about 3 feet of snake drop into a large hole my dog digs under the foundation of the house. Now... I'm really not looking forward to this. This is a big snake. So far, it's looking brownish / blackish and very cobraish. Dang... is your boy about to die here?

I'm waiting, and nothing, so I go inside the house to look out the window right above the hole to see if I can see which way he exits, left or right, and plan the less stupid of things after that.

After a few seconds, he emerges, and begins to head to the back of the house again. Fortunately, I get a good look at it, and can positively identify it as a keelback, not a cobra. Non-venomous, so there is no need for us to throw hands on this day. That was about 5 feet of snake. As I type this, I look out my window, and I kid you not, it has appeared again and literally raises a foot of it's body from over the other side of my wall and looks at me before lowering itself out of sight again.
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Me and snakes down don't go well together. I would be inside the house screaming like a girl and showing my wife where it is so she can go kill it!
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Man... just looked out my back door to see a couple of feet of large cobra colored snake heading around the corner.

Reluctantly, I head out the front door, cage the dog, and grab the hoe and machette... not really looking forward to this. I round the corner just long enough to see about 3 feet of snake drop into a large hole my dog digs under the foundation of the house. Now... I'm really not looking forward to this. This is a big snake. So far, it's looking brownish / blackish and very cobraish. Dang... is your boy about to die here?

I'm waiting, and nothing, so I go inside the house to look out the window right above the hole to see if I can see which way he exits, left or right, and plan the less stupid of things after that.

After a few seconds, he emerges, and begins to head to the back of the house again. Fortunately, I get a good look at it, and can positively identify it as a keelback, not a cobra. Non-venomous, so there is no need for us to throw hands on this day. That was about 5 feet of snake. As I type this, I look out my window, and I kid you not, it has appeared again and literally raises a foot of it's body from over the other side of my wall and looks at me before lowering itself out of sight again.
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Laser Beams Are the Answer
 
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roosterjbh said:
Small sample size, but a stat I thought was interesting from an article in The Athletic:
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Hank be like...

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Vols4us said:
More a function of when they played - first half versus second half. When you look at the expanded stats, over two thirds of the sacks occurred in the first half with JG, probably the hurries and hits as well. Once adjustments are made at half time it gets much better. Some of it is the average time in getting the ball out of JG's hands. Chryst is quicker. A big part is who Helton has started at G each game, which is where most of the breakdowns are occurring in the first half.
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If thats true then Chryst should be getting hit/ pressured alot less.
 
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Eye test says JG gets crushed more than any QB not named Peterman than I have ever seen. I don't need stat on small sample sizes to tell me he could be doing something better to keep that from happening. Even be a second faster in his drop and release will keep some of these hits from happening because they would be penalties.

Eye test also says Chryst sees it coming and gets ball out. And run game appears to be more consistent. Again small sample size so not fair to judge.

I can only judge that JG takes more hits that anyone I've ever seen minus Peterman. And we are not the only team in America with a bad OL
 
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Atlanta VOL said:
Also I struggled with the news today... I had to be vague due to the sensitive nature of the medical side of it. I also wanted to respect the process the university has around news as sensitive as that as well as his family. He is a GREAT KID and has been amazing to get to know which also made it hard for me...trust me when I say this kid will do great things no matter if it is in football or not....he is that special of a person.

That being said for those of you that don’t understand it and didn’t respect how I tried to relay the message please just put me on ignore...much easier for us all. GBO
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Brillovol said:
Hank be like...

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Those stats are meaningless. I can set back there for 8 seconds, and then a rusher is in my face and hits me when i throw...thus attributing to a QB hurry and a hit.

Everyone saw against bama that chryst has a quicker release and internal clock. Threw it away quickly a few times etc. I’ve said it since fall camp opened and now some finally seen it/admit it.

Whether you choose to is on you.
 
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HankHill said:
Those stats are meaningless. I can set back there for 8 seconds, and then a rusher is my face and hits me when i throw...this attributing to a QB hurry and a hit.

Everyone saw against bama that chryst has a quicker release and internal clock. Threw it away quickly a few times etc. I’ve said it since fall camp opened and now some finally seen it/admit it.

Whether you choose to is on you.
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Then you are holding on to the ball too long. Not sure this proves your point that this is meaningless
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Eye test says JG gets crushed more than any QB not named Peterman than I have ever seen. I don't need stat on small sample sizes to tell me he could be doing something better to keep that from happening. Even be a second faster in his drop and release will keep some of these hits from happening because they would be penalties.

Eye test also says Chryst sees it coming and gets ball out. And run game appears to be more consistent. Again small sample size so not fair to judge.

I can only judge that JG takes more hits that anyone I've ever seen minus Peterman. And we are not the only team in America with a bad OL
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Exactly. This is spot on. If you are slow in your drop and you don’t move well inside the pocket you get destroyed. Watch Tua play. The guy can’t be much faster than JG but the way he moves inside the pocket to avoid defenders and extend plays is brilliant. We gave him a dirty pocket to throw out of multiple times and he stepped up and out of it a lot. If you need a clean pocket to be able to produce then you aren’t a good QB.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Man... just looked out my back door to see a couple of feet of large cobra colored snake heading around the corner.

Reluctantly, I head out the front door, cage the dog, and grab the hoe and machette... not really looking forward to this. I round the corner just long enough to see about 3 feet of snake drop into a large hole my dog digs under the foundation of the house. Now... I'm really not looking forward to this. This is a big snake. So far, it's looking brownish / blackish and very cobraish. Dang... is your boy about to die here?

I'm waiting, and nothing, so I go inside the house to look out the window right above the hole to see if I can see which way he exits, left or right, and plan the less stupid of things after that.

After a few seconds, he emerges, and begins to head to the back of the house again. Fortunately, I get a good look at it, and can positively identify it as a keelback, not a cobra. Non-venomous, so there is no need for us to throw hands on this day. That was about 5 feet of snake. As I type this, I look out my window, and I kid you not, it has appeared again and literally raises a foot of it's body from over the other side of my wall and looks at me before lowering itself out of sight again.
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Keep it for the rodents. It's what I do. Got one living in my walls. I stepped outside back door one day and seen one about 2 1/2 ft from my head hanging down from a crease. I knew I was not going to bother me. Had a mouse problem when I first moved in. Have not seen one in a long time now. 😁
 
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HankHill said:
Those stats are meaningless. I can set back there for 8 seconds, and then a rusher is in my face and hits me when i throw...thus attributing to a QB hurry and a hit.

Everyone saw against bama that chryst has a quicker release and internal clock. Threw it away quickly a few times etc. I’ve said it since fall camp opened and now some finally seen it/admit it.

Whether you choose to is on you.
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So according to you, Chryst gets the ball out quicker, yet still gets pressured the same. Stats are stats.

You’re such an easy punching bag.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Man... just looked out my back door to see a couple of feet of large cobra colored snake heading around the corner.

Reluctantly, I head out the front door, cage the dog, and grab the hoe and machette... not really looking forward to this. I round the corner just long enough to see about 3 feet of snake drop into a large hole my dog digs under the foundation of the house. Now... I'm really not looking forward to this. This is a big snake. So far, it's looking brownish / blackish and very cobraish. Dang... is your boy about to die here?

I'm waiting, and nothing, so I go inside the house to look out the window right above the hole to see if I can see which way he exits, left or right, and plan the less stupid of things after that.

After a few seconds, he emerges, and begins to head to the back of the house again. Fortunately, I get a good look at it, and can positively identify it as a keelback, not a cobra. Non-venomous, so there is no need for us to throw hands on this day. That was about 5 feet of snake. As I type this, I look out my window, and I kid you not, it has appeared again and literally raises a foot of it's body from over the other side of my wall and looks at me before lowering itself out of sight again.
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I'd be dropping some serious fireworks or a quarter stick of dynamite in that hole if I were you.
 
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