Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[Chief Vol 13]

Dooley was arrogant and dumb. Butch was insecure and dumb.

I think Dooley was pretty smart football wise. I think Jones was well below average at this level from a football IQ standpoint.

 

[Aesius]

I think Dooley was pretty smart football wise. I think Jones was well below average at this level from a football IQ standpoint.

Dooley has some football IQ and knows Xs and Os a bit but he couldn't manage the team or his role as a head coach for ****. Jones from 2013-2015 at least had the program on an upswing and seemed to field a disciplined, hard-nosed team. But ultimately he felt he didn't belong with the big boys and his decision making was due to that insecurity. Haney's article was actually spot-on.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

Just means he’s due

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

Dooley has some football IQ and knows Xs and Os a bit but he couldn't manage the team or his role as a head coach for ****. Jones from 2013-2015 at least had the program on an upswing and seemed to field a disciplined, hard-nosed team. But ultimately he felt he didn't belong with the big boys and his decision making was due to that insecurity. Haney's article was actually spot-on.

A big part of that was Dave Lawson. Biggest mistake Butch made was parting ways with him.

 

[scvolfan7]

Dooley has some football IQ and knows Xs and Os a bit but he couldn't manage the team or his role as a head coach for ****. Jones from 2013-2015 at least had the program on an upswing and seemed to field a disciplined, hard-nosed team. But ultimately he felt he didn't belong with the big boys and his decision making was due to that insecurity. Haney's article was actually spot-on.

Hmmm I don’t know about disciplined. Truly disciplined teams don’t blow big leads like that 2015 team did. 2013 loss to Vandy was pathetic too

 

[scvolfan7]

No doubt in my mind that from a pure football standpoint, Dooley was a better coach

For sure. I really like his offense at Mizzou. Very creative

 

[jakez4ut]

I've decided the worst thing about either of our two pervious coaches is that they were both bad enough to NOT stop taking about.

 

[BleedorangeinGA]

And I'll add, we have to expect this to be a blowout. So, while it's happening Saturday can we please not do our usual meltdown acting like it's not supposed to happen. If it turns out better than expected we can be pleased.

As much as we are seeing improvements across the board, Vegas will only have Tennessee favored in 1 of their last 6 games. Still a ways to go but for sure can see it heading in a good direction.

 

[Vols4us]

For sure. I really like his offense at Mizzou. Very creative

Dools was quoted that he changed nothing in the offensive scheme at Mizzou during one of their games covered by SECN. He has emphasized running the ball more that Heupel. I think it has helped their overall offense. What I see regressing is Locke's play and I don't know if that's on Dools or their QB coach if they have one.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

You're not going to change a culture by leaving bullets in the chamber.

Guarantee CJP plays whomever is healthy enough to play.

And if a couple of important guys get hurt doing it...VN will show no mercy.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

This is an SEC game, man...you plan and play it TO WIN IT, whether you can or not. Ceding anything to ANYONE beforehand is for the biggest losers, in the world of sports.

I don't think the argument anybody was making was about "ceding" and just not trying at all to compete. I thought guys were saying to handle the game smart enough that we come out of this game healthy enough to compete in the games we actually can win.

 

[scvolfan7]

Dools was quoted that he changed nothing in the offensive scheme at Mizzou during one of their games covered by SECN. He has emphasized running the ball more that Heupel. I think it has helped their overall offense. What I see regressing is Locke's play and I don't know if that's on Dools or their QB coach if they have one.

Lock looks about the same to me. His stats (really all Mizzou’s offensive stats) were boosted against horrible teams last year. Odom is a puss and runs up the score on bad teams. Dooley is better than Heupel scheme change or not. They’ve been able to score on good/mediocre teams consistently this year lol

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

Jmo, but I think Lock feasts on the cupcakes on their schedule but when it comes to actual competition in the SEC he gets knocked down a few notches...thats been his whole career.

 

[Smokey123]

No doubt in my mind that from a pure football standpoint, Dooley was a better coach

While that very well might be true, more goes into coaching than simply “knowledge” “football iq” “x and o’s”, ect. I’m not sure Swinney would be top 5 coach if that was the case. Give me Butch

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

Is Hubbs the one that sounds like he has a mouth full of mashed potatoes at the beginning of almost every question he answers on the pod cast?

He sounds like a fat guy.

 

[scvolfan7]

While that very well might be true, more goes into coaching than simply “knowledge” “football iq” “x and o’s”, ect. I’m not sure Swinney would be top 5 coach if that was the case. Give me Butch

You want the guy that was in charge of 4 of the 6 worst losses in UT history and the worst season in UT history?

Butch is so lucky he got Dobbs. He would have been fired middle of 2015 without him

 

[engineerVOL]

@nicksjuzunk ya got family in Arizona?

 

[engineerVOL]

Dools made superior hires than Butch.

 

[Rishvol]

@nicksjuzunk ya got family in Arizona?

My man. I hear you can eat snake meat raw also

 

[Rishvol]

Why you morans still bishin about ex's

 

[engineerVOL]

My man. I hear you can eat snake meat raw also

The Juzunk family boils their tea in snake meat I heard.

 

[SpringBokVol]

I ride with Pruitt. He is the real deal.

I am all in.

 

[Rishvol]

The Juzunk family boils their tea in snake meat I heard.

Marinades their steaks in venom

 

[volfanCLT]

Butch was the better HC

Think Dools might be a better OC but not really sure either way

Pruitt will teabag them both

 

[Aesius]

I ride with Pruitt. He is the real deal.

I am all in.

Auburn win gets even more impressive the more I think about it. Hadn't won an SEC game since Nov. 19 2016 and we just rolled into Auburn and dominated them. Despite giving up an early lead and having no success on offense outside of third downs.