Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[HankHill]

Release what??..These guys are literally ushering defensive players into the backfield..I mean it looks like they would accidentally block better than they do...There is an OL breakdown or multiple breakdowns on almost every freaking play. Watch the tape..it doesn't lie or cherry pick.

On JGs strip sack early in the game... the WR in the flat who is the primary option in this clear out pattern is open and the ball should’ve been out long before the hit occured. This is one of the examples that i said where he could do a better job anticipating and getting the ball out early and it would help our OL.

 

[CreiveHallVol]

That is not what she said?

Must have been pre-Madonna

 

[HankHill]

Like I said YPC don’t mean much for an Oline. Surely you don’t think Bama has an average Oline half of the years? I’m well aware of what they average, thanks

SEC leaders in Rush YPA

It’s not a fluke the top 10 is littered with players from teams with the best OL play...

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Look how dumb this comment is

 

[UT-Rex]

Page 1001. In.

 

[HankHill]

Look how dumb this comment is

I always wonder about stories like these that say quotes are from:

“Sec coach” “nfl executive” etc. lol they could be talking to the secretary or the intern like butch.

 

[drvenner]

How many times has JG thrown for 3 TD’s or even 200yards in the past 2 years?

You're not very good at comparisons. We get it. You hate JG. There is still no evidence that KC will be any better. I am not opposed to trying him out, but if the coaches don't think he's better, that's enough for me.

 

[Smokey123]

SEC leaders in Rush YPA

It’s not a fluke the top 10 is littered with players from teams with the best OL play...

And the last 2 years they were 6 and 7 in Pass YPA. #8 this year in YPC and went back to around average before Hurts again. Surely you don’t think Bamas Oline is average, right?

 

[Smokey123]

Mizzou lead the league in YA last year and was top 3 in YPC, returned all starters on Oline. What are you even arguing?

 

[drvenner]

Missouri, Pitt, or Vandy have not had better individual players on their OL that’s, nor the weapons we have. Jennings and Calloway would’ve started for every one of them. So would smith and Richmond.

If you are really going to say “biggest OL” .... lol. Because that matters. Those QBs have outplayed JG the entire time not just their last years. All while being at programs with lesser recourses and rosters.

Just stop finding every excuse possible

Are the QBs on those teams pressured like JG is? You're not answering the question because you want to convince everyone that KC should get a shot.

 

[Smokey123]

You’ve still yet to give a reason why Richmond would start at Mizzou or Pitt

Bump since apparently it keeps getting lost so Hank hasn’t been able to see it....

 

[drvenner]

KC:
For his career, he has thrown for over 1,900 yards to go with 19 touchdowns and only six interceptions.
2018 Johnny Unitas Golden Arm List
6'5''/ 239
Pro Style QB

I believe CJP prefers JG since he will have 2 more years eligibility. If KC wasn't a grad transfer, he would be the starting QB in Helton's pro style system.

Why do you all insist on thinking that our coaching staff would not start the players who they think give us the best chance to win.? That is the simplest explanation for why JG has started to this point.

 

[drvenner]

I have never blamed JG for this season. But all these post are like man if we had this, that, and the other then JG would be great.

The reason QB is the most important position in. Football is Bc it is their job to elevate others. All i said is there are things he could be doing better (like everyone else) to help our offense. Like being more mobile in the pocket, getting the ball out quicker (which I’ve given examples on specific plays where he could’ve) and not floating or under throwing deep balls.

It’s just no one likes to hear criticism on JG for whatever reason

It is not that we don't like to hear it. It is that you all are pushing your agenda that KC should start, despite the coaching staff's actions to the contrary to this point. That is the bottom line. They have believed that JG has been better to this point. If it changes, then we can debate whether he was given a fair shake or not. For the record, I think that they have given him a good opportunity and his results have been mixed, at best.

 

[HankHill]

And the last 2 years they were 6 and 7 in Pass YPA. #8 this year in YPC and went back to around average before Hurts again. Surely you don’t think Bamas Oline is average, right?

Their offensive line hasn’t been great the last couple of years. That’s why they have played some young guys and the one one that’s gotten drafted was Bozeman in like the 7th round.

 

[HankHill]

Are the QBs on those teams pressured like JG is? You're not answering the question because you want to convince everyone that KC should get a shot.

Idc who plays QB for us. I’ve said all long thatvwe are gonna be below average there either way. I think it’s worth a shot to change it especially considering JG is banged up.

 

[HankHill]

Bump since apparently it keeps getting lost so Hank hasn’t been able to see it....

Bc Richmond is really talented and athletic.... if you don’t think Missouri or Pitt would love to have Richmond you’re crazy. He’s just lazy.

 

[Smokey123]

Bc Richmond is really talented and athletic.... if you don’t think Missouri or Pitt would love to have Richmond you’re crazy. He’s just lazy.

That doesn’t mean he’d start lmao. Talented and Athletic players never start all the time and bust all the time. There’s zero reason an average at best SEC tackle would start at Mizzou this year or Pitt in 16. Both are two of the top Olines for their years, stop being lazy. Just because they are “bad schools” doesn’t mean they Have bad players at every position. Khalil Mack must have been God Awful at Buffalo, Corey Miller would have started over him IMO

 

[HankHill]

That doesn’t mean he’d start lmao. Talented and Athletic players never start all the time and bust all the time. There’s zero reason an average at best SEC tackle would start at Mizzou this year or Pitt in 16. Both are two of the top Olines for their years, stop being lazy. Just because they are “bad schools” doesn’t mean they Have bad players at every position. Khalil Mack must have been God Awful at Buffalo, Corey Miller would have started over him IMO

You’re right we have the worst players and unit in all of college football along the offensive line. You win.

 

[justwatch123]

That’s fair but the areas in which JG has an advantage in, he hasn’t really shown it or benefited from.

He’s more athletic but doesn’t really move around in the pocket and evade pressure. He has more arm talent but has often times underthrown and floated balls downfield.

I understand what your saying but why do you go so hard at JG. It’s obvious he has to be better than KC at this point. No way in the world these coaches wanna keep walking him out there when they know someone is better.

Same can be said about Dormady last year. As much as some wanted JG it became obvious at some point that QD was the best option

 

[Smokey123]

You’re right we have the worst players and unit in all of college football along the offensive line. You win.

Wheb did I say that say that? All I’m asking is for you to provide an argument of why Richmond would start at either school? Both had/has one of the best Olines in the country. just because theyre a bad school doesn’t mean crap. You can’t make a statement and not back it up with anything, I mean you can but it’s dumb and makes you look lazy

 

[HankHill]

I understand what your saying but why do you go so hard at JG. It’s obvious he has to be better than KC at this point. No way in the world these coaches wanna keep walking him out there when they know someone is better.

Same can be said about Dormady last year. As much as some wanted JG it became obvious at some point that QD was the best option

Because JG has the tools to be a much better QB. If he didn’t he would be a lost cause.

 

[HankHill]

Wheb did I say that say that? All I’m asking is for you to provide an argument of why Richmond would start at either school? Both had/has one of the best Olines in the country. just because theyre a bad school doesn’t mean crap. You can’t make a statement and not back it up with anything, I mean you can but it’s dumb and makes you look lazy

You said a teams Offensive line has nothing to do with their Yards per carry which is a direct stay in how effective they are at running the ball. You also think Missouri and Pitt have two of the best offensive lines in the country.

I told you I’m done arguing with you.

 

[mccrackb]

You're not very good at comparisons. We get it. You hate JG. There is still no evidence that KC will be any better. I am not opposed to trying him out, but if the coaches don't think he's better, that's enough for me.

I didn’t say KC would be any better. I just said JG stinks and hasn’t won a game and hasn’t thrown for 200 yard in two d***years.

 

[Smokey123]

Unless of course you’re arguing had Richmond signed there from the beginning there he would be starting. There’s no way of knowing how he’d progress

 

[Vols4us]

On JGs strip sack early in the game... the WR in the flat who is the primary option in this clear out pattern is open and the ball should’ve been out long before the hit occured. This is one of the examples that i said where he could do a better job anticipating and getting the ball out early and it would help our OL.

Quit using visuals - it doesn't fit the herd's narrative.

Yes, JG is doing and not doing things that make the O-line look worse than they are at times. If he would get the mental part done in the games, practice doesn't count, it helps the entire O including the line play. That would buy the O-line time to develop more. But if he never does that, how can he be the best option to start? It will be Groundhog Day every game.