Stick With Pruitt

[VolsSportsFan]

It took Dabo awhile at Clemson. Not saying Pruitt is Dabo, but a coach needs time

Dabo took Clemson to the ACC Championship his first full season, and won the ACC in his 3rd full year. I'm pretty sure if Pruitt got that done in his first 3 years, you're not going to have to worry about replacing him.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Remember this:

Year Prior to Nick Saban AL 6-6
Saban first Season AL 6-6

Year Prior to Pruitt TN 4-8
Pruitt first Season ?-?

Just saying! And NO I am not saying Pruitt is the next Saban!!

Don't know if Pruitt is the answer or not but he should get his 3 SEASONS and his own Team!

Then we will know.

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Then you had no reason to bring it up.

 

[volsportsfan]

@Titan05 should Pruitt be fired after year 3 if he has only 1 sec win? That's another tough call. And, it's very circumstantial. What if we take some of these sec teams to the wire and lose ( proving we are competitive ), but only manage to win 1 of them in year 3?

 

[VolsSportsFan]

@Titan05 should Pruitt be fired after year 3 if he has only 1 sec win? That's another tough call. And, it's very circumstantial. What if we take some of these sec teams to the wire and lose ( proving we are competitive ), but only manage to win 1 of them in year 3?

Reality should tell you if we only win 1 SEC game in his first 3 years that he's not surviving. That would me no bowl game for 3 years, and that would mean he did worse than Dooley.

 

[Doberman]

If the man wins an sec game year 3 I'd keep him. Year 4 and 5 we need to see a couple sec wins each year. Year 6 and 7 he needs to compete for the east and be in sec title contention. After year 8, if he has yet to put us in title game he is definitely gone. I'm willing to bet that with his potential, by year 8 this man would have us in the title game at least once. I'm willing to bet that given sufficient time, this man will show that he has built us up to be an sec title contender on a yearly basis

Jesus H Christ man.

 

[Titan05]

@Titan05 should Pruitt be fired after year 3 if he has only 1 sec win? That's another tough call. And, it's very circumstantial. What if we take some of these sec teams to the wire and lose ( proving we are competitive ), but only manage to win 1 of them in year 3?

Definitely should be fired under that scenario. Losing 32 of 33 SEC games would be a giant step backwards. 25 in a row would be a giant step backwards and he should be fired then as well.

 

[volsportsfan]

Reality should tell you if we only win 1 SEC game in his first 3 years that he's not surviving. That would me no bowl game for 3 years, and that would mean he did worse than Dooley.

Yeah, im not sure on all this discussion about x amount of wins proving progress. It's all very circumstantial. How competitive were we with the big dogs? Injuries, amount of and were they to key players? Things like this must be factored in.

 

[volsportsfan]

Definitely should be fired under that scenario. Losing 32 of 33 SEC games would be a giant step backwards. 25 in a row would be a giant step backwards and he should be fired then as well.

You are probably right. Like i said, not the original intent of my discussion anyway

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Yeah, im not sure on all this discussion about x amount of wins proving progress. It's all very circumstantial. How competitive were we with the big dogs? Injuries, amount of and were they to key players? Things like this must be factored in.

No, it won't matter. You win 1 SEC game in 3 years at UT, you're going to be shown the door. That would be legendary levels of bad for this program. We joke about Neyland being half full but I honestly believe in this scenario by year 3, at least against lesser opponents, you'd have empty seat levels this program hasn't seen.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

You are probably right. Like i said, not the original intent of my discussion anyway

But how is it not a huge part of your discussion? Your OP advocating Pruitt get 8-10 years, but you really think after 3 years and 1 SEC wins that wouldn't factor into how good of an idea it would be to keep him 5-7 more years after that?

 

[volsportsfan]

No, it won't matter. You win 1 SEC game in 3 years at UT, you're going to be shown the door. That would be legendary levels of bad for this program. We joke about Neyland being half full but I honestly believe in this scenario by year 3, at least against lesser opponents, you'd have empty seat levels this program hasn't seen.

Like i said on page 1, I'm not proclaiming 8 years with blind faith.

 

[volsportsfan]

But how is it not a huge part of your discussion? Your OP advocating Pruitt get 8-10 years, but you really think after 3 years and 1 SEC wins that wouldn't factor into how good of an idea it would be to keep him 5-7 more years after that?

Oh, it definitely is a part of the discussion, just not my main purpose.

The 1 win in the sec after 3 years was off the top of my head. Hadn't put much thought into the standard of progress year to year. That standard, to me, is very circumstantial. But yeah, 1 sec win after 3 years most likely won't cut it.

I've got a couple of my fellow vol bros to straighten me out on that point, or at least make me rethink it. Thanks

 

[Vfl2407]

The UT job is such a tough rebuild right now, and the fact that Pruitt has never been a head coach before makes it extraordinarily difficult.

This was a miscalculation by Fulmer in hiring him. Someone with experience rebuilding another program would have been ideal.

Pruitt may be fine in time, but right now in his private moments, he has to be wondering what the heck he has gotten himself into and he’s thinking that this job is much tougher than he ever imagined.

Dude, u r a cool visiting fan and I don’t think u come here to rub things in or be anti Vol.
But realize that most people here know a whole lot more about our program than you do just as you know much more about UF than we do.
That being said, Fulmer didn’t have a lot of great choices. The Haslams and their dutiful minions had screwed our coaching search into a national joke. Pruitt was far from our first choice. None of us know if he’s up to the job yet. He inherited a very sparse cupboard barren of much SEC caliber talent.

 

[FLVOL_79]

The UT job is such a tough rebuild right now, and the fact that Pruitt has never been a head coach before makes it extraordinarily difficult.

This was a miscalculation by Fulmer in hiring him. Someone with experience rebuilding another program would have been ideal.

Pruitt may be fine in time, but right now in his private moments, he has to be wondering what the heck he has gotten himself into and he’s thinking that this job is much tougher than he ever imagined.

Mmm I'd wager he is doing that on the sideline most of the time as well.

 

[hog88]

If the man wins an sec game year 3 I'd keep him. Year 4 and 5 we need to see a couple sec wins each year. Year 6 and 7 he needs to compete for the east and be in sec title contention. After year 8, if he has yet to put us in title game he is definitely gone. I'm willing to bet that with his potential, by year 8 this man would have us in the title game at least once. I'm willing to bet that given sufficient time, this man will show that he has built us up to be an sec title contender on a yearly basis

I'm glad you're not spending my money.

How long would you let a salesman stay without making a sale?

 

[hog88]

@Titan05 should Pruitt be fired after year 3 if he has only 1 sec win? That's another tough call. And, it's very circumstantial. What if we take some of these sec teams to the wire and lose ( proving we are competitive ), but only manage to win 1 of them in year 3?

That's not a tough call. YES he should be fired right along with the man that hired him.

 

[EODVOL]

The real question is, how many in volnation will sing a different tune if Pruitt is able to pull off a miracle upset? Half our fan base are like crazy azz ex girlfriends!

 

[HalfullVol]

this ugly baby better grow up to be a handsome man in a hurry

 

[508mikey]

If Kelly and Frost have their teams in better shape after year 3 than does Pruitt at UT -- he should be shown the door

 

[volsportsfan]

I'm glad you're not spending my money.

How long would you let a salesman stay without making a sale?

Don't know about that, but as far as coaching goes, as long as Pruitt shows a little success and a little improvement through his growing pains, I'd keep him around for that 8 to 10 year mark I think the evidence suggests.

 

[volsportsfan]

If Kelly and Frost have their teams in better shape after year 3 than does Pruitt at UT -- he should be shown the door

We just disagree man. Kelly has much more experience under his belt.

Just because frost might have his team in better shape doesn't mean Pruitt hasn't done enough to warrant keeping his job here.

 

[VolArmy74]

You can basically look at the top 25 coaches of the last 30 or 40 years and you'll find one thing in common, by year 3 they had their program turned around.

There are a whole lot of examples of failed coaches who weren't able to get things on the right track in that time period that were given a 4th or 5th year.

That said, I hope Pruitt is here in 10 years. But no way you give him that long to win, because it's not going to happen if he hasn't done in by year 4 at the latest.

 

[hog88]

We just disagree man. Kelly has much more experience under his belt.

Just because frost might have his team in better shape doesn't mean Pruitt hasn't done enough to warrant keeping his job here.

UT isn't an entry level position, its a show or go job.

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

What we need is players that will take advantage of one of the best weight centers and complexes anywhere. There is no excuse for a lineman to come here and not get bigger and stronger. For way to long our folks at the LOS look like weaklings. This has to STOP, there is no excuse for it going forward. Million dollar workout facilities should produce a tough team no matter what we shouldn't be get pushed around. I think our S@C program is the single biggest reason our LOS is where it's at today. And heck no Pruitt and staff haven't had enough time to make men out of lineman that never had a previous S@C program worth anything. 4 different S@C coaches in 4 out of 5 of Jones years says it all. And one year and probably with our best team Jones allowed the players to monitor themselves without a coach. This was Jones ultimate demise, no team is going to compete at a high level without a great S@C program. Hopefully this has changed, without players getting bigger, better and stronger we will not turn it around. Our players have to be shown how it's going to be, just sitting around and not working will not cut it here anymore. GBO!!!!!

 

[volsportsfan]

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You can basically look at the top 25 coaches of the last 30 or 40 years and you'll find one thing in common, by year 3 they had their program turned around.

There are a whole lot of examples of failed coaches who weren't able to get things on the right track in that time period that were given a 4th or 5th year.

That said, I hope Pruitt is here in 10 years. But no way you give him that long to win, because it's not going to happen if he hasn't done in by year 4 at the latest.

Show me this evidence. I have provided evidence already of quite a few top coaches that became proven coaches, but they had a lot more experience than what Pruitt has when they became proven. When they actually won something of significance.