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InVOLuntary said:
Haha. Pot and kettle. I post he's inexperienced and you go full "you want him fired"! Go on, find where I said he was doomed for failure. You can't do it cause I didn't post it. And don't say probably not ready for the job is an indicator I expected him to fail. Grand canyon, evil kanevil leap on your part.
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“Fourth straight hire probably not ready for the job” isn’t an indicator of success. And you can’t back that up by anything on the field...which is one game against a ranked opponent. Chip Kelly prepared against Cincy?
 
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LA Vol said:
The odds defy so many of our 4* and 5* players being overrated. Some were, but some haven't been developed and others just aren't going to put in the effort to reach their potential. I think the coaches will re-evaluate some of these guys and we'll see them being weeded out. The coaches waited a little too long to set positions on the OL and they left the young DBs exposed one-on-one against a hot QB-WR, with an anemic pass rush. So they took their licks.

One of the biggest takeaways is that some of the older players that the team needed to step up and lead by example aren't going to do that. They are what they are-- and that's not good enough and not motivated enough to get better. And we'll have to recruit out of that.
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Isn’t it amazing how patently and consistently terrible our 4* and 5* guys are? Teams like WV, Texas Tech, and Washington St. get very few 4*/5* kids yet they produce and actually look like they know what they are doing. They’re exciting.

Our 4*/5* kids are terrible. Just terrible. And boring. They look like they’ve never played football before. And these are kids that alot of other big time programs wanted.

It defies all logic.

I realize stars aren’t everything but there’s a strong correlation (if not causation) between stars and performance (see Bama, OSU, USC, Clemson, Oklahoma, etc.).

We might have to go the Wisconsin/Washington route in the short-term. Get kids that will work their ass off, put them in positions to do well, and add a few bonafide studs at key positions (QB, RB, OL). Grind out some wins...get some high-level recruits to take notice...win more...and build from there.
 
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millst987 said:
Seems like a tall task for this squad. I hope we can
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I don't see any reason to adjust the mindset until we see how UF goes. The first game was rougher than many of us expected, but they have three weeks and two games to regroup and improve. Some things are fixable, and we have tools that were left in the toolbox. UF is the pivot.
 
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I was really impressed with Pruitt’s demeanor after the game on Saturday. He sounded a lot more like a teacher whose class had really struggled with the first exam of the semester and needed to get up to speed before the midterm than a pissed off football coach who was ready to go yell at his team.
I wasn’t sure what he would be like after a disappointing loss of that nature, and I was impressed. He didn’t question his team’s effort, didn’t throw anyone under the bus, just calmly talked about shortcomings he saw and how they would go about fixing things.
Pruitt seems to be fully aware that this is a team, a program, a group of players that have forgotten how to win. Who too often have felt things slipping away on the football field and get that ‘oh, here we go again feeling’ with no idea how to get things turned around and on the right track.
This team doesn’t need a head coach right now who’s going to beat them down, and while Pruitt’s public demeanor may not exactly suggest that he’s a nurturer, his actions after the game on Saturday hint that he has some of that in him. He definitely has a football team that needs some of that.
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- Rob Lewis
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
Finally back from up the wedding I was at all weekend and now time to watch the game. I thought about not watching it; but regardless of the outcome I’ve waited too long this offseason to not watch and we only get so many games a year. I’m actually glad I know the outcome and will go into the game looking for positives knowing it won’t be great. Wish me luck.
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Godspeed, my friend. Gird your loins for the ugliness.
 
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LargePairOfVols said:
Isn’t it amazing how patently and consistently terrible our 4* and 5* guys are? Teams like WV, Texas Tech, and Washington St. get very few 4*/5* kids yet they produce and actually look like they know what they are doing. They’re exciting.

Our 4*/5* kids are terrible. Just terrible. And boring. They look like they’ve never played football before. And these are kids that alot of other big time programs wanted.

It defies all logic.

I realize stars aren’t everything but there’s a strong correlation (if not causation) between stars and performance (see Bama, OSU, USC, Clemson, Oklahoma, etc.).

We might have to go the Wisconsin/Washington route in the short-term. Get kids that will work their ass off, put them in positions to do well, and add a few bonafide studs at key positions (QB, RB, OL). Grind out some wins...get some high-level recruits to take notice...win more...and build from there.
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Kongbo would be Lawrence Taylor 2.0 at Bama or Ole Miss right now.

I bet other coaches heavily emphasize how many busts we've had among blue-chippers in recent years.
 
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LargePairOfVols said:
Isn’t it amazing how patently and consistently terrible our 4* and 5* guys are? Teams like WV, Texas Tech, and Washington St. get very few 4*/5* kids yet they produce and actually look like they know what they are doing. They’re exciting.

Our 4*/5* kids are terrible. Just terrible. And boring. They look like they’ve never played football before. And these are kids that alot of other big time programs wanted.

It defies all logic.

I realize stars aren’t everything but there’s a strong correlation (if not causation) between stars and performance (see Bama, OSU, USC, Clemson, Oklahoma, etc.).

We might have to go the Wisconsin/Washington route in the short-term. Get kids that will work their ass off, put them in positions to do well, and add a few bonafide studs at key positions (QB, RB, OL). Grind out some wins...get some high-level recruits to take notice...win more...and build from there.
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Was about to post something similar. The only position Butch and company could coach up and evaluate well was his RBs. Gillespie is the damn man.
 
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butchna said:
“Fourth straight hire probably not ready for the job” isn’t an indicator of success. And you can’t back that up by anything on the field...which is one game against a ranked opponent. Chip Kelly prepared against Cincy?
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I can't believe you're can't get that "Probably not ready for the job" means failure. All it means is it would have been nice if he would have had a little more experice under his belt before he took on this sh!t show of a program.


What does UCLA and chip Kelly have to do with TN other than they're both American universities?
 
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LargePairOfVols said:
Isn’t it amazing how patently and consistently terrible our 4* and 5* guys are? Teams like WV, Texas Tech, and Washington St. get very few 4*/5* kids yet they produce and actually look like they know what they are doing. They’re exciting.

Our 4*/5* kids are terrible. Just terrible. And boring. They look like they’ve never played football before. And these are kids that alot of other big time programs wanted.

It defies all logic.

I realize stars aren’t everything but there’s a strong correlation (if not causation) between stars and performance (see Bama, OSU, USC, Clemson, Oklahoma, etc.).

We might have to go the Wisconsin/Washington route in the short-term. Get kids that will work their ass off, put them in positions to do well, and add a few bonafide studs at key positions (QB, RB, OL). Grind out some wins...get some high-level recruits to take notice...win more...and build from there.
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A lot of them haven't been developed or challenged, weren't conditioned properly and have grown immune to losing. Two or three years in, a lot of them will just get their degree and go. The more graduate-and-go guys that can be replaced by hungrier newcomers with fewer bad habits, the better.
 
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Catbone said:
Was about to post something similar. The only position Butch and company could coach up and evaluate well was his RBs. Gillespie is the damn man.
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How did UNC’s RB’s make out Saturday? Rest of team was pretty much garbage.
 
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LA Vol said:
I don't see any reason to adjust the mindset until we see how UF goes. The first game was rougher than many of us expected, but they have three weeks and two games to regroup and improve. Some things are fixable, and we have tools that were left in the toolbox. UF is the pivot.
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I truly believe we'll a vast improvement over the next 3 games. Beat Florida and things will be on schedule.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I can't believe you're can't get that "Probably not ready for the job" means failure. All it means is it would have been nice if he would have had a little more experice under his belt before he took on this sh!t show of a program.


What does UCLA and chip Kelly have to do with TN other than they're both American universities?
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If you’re NOT READY for the job how can you succeed? Words mean something when you’re not trying to get laid.

Kelly has experience and was the wet dream home run for a lot of your new buddies...seems relevant.
 
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I went back and watched some of the game. I don’t feel as bad as I did. Some of the mistakes that were made can be fixed by watching film. The offense settled in. If Pruitt will simplify his defense and the team can get some confidence we can beat Florida
 
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Reading the gloom and doom one would think Saturday we were outclassed start to finish.

Shocked more of you aren't talking about us driving inside the 40 with 2 minutes left in the half to take the lead. Our game plan was working perfectly as we were shortening the game. We had overcome the bad decision to take the ball and the poor OL start.

It simply isn't true that we were outclassed Saturday.
 
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BruinVol said:
Reading the gloom and doom one would think Saturday we were outclassed start to finish.

Shocked more of you aren't talking about us driving inside the 40 with 2 minutes left in the half to take the lead. Our game plan was working perfectly as we were shortening the game. We had overcome the bad decision to take the ball and the poor OL start.

It simply isn't true that we were outclassed Saturday.
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40-14 is being outclassed
 
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BruinVol said:
If you aren't able to understand more than the final score sure
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On offense I somewhat agree. But the defense was outclassed the entirety of the game at every position. Grier missed a few pretty easy throws in the first half which was why it was close.
 
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