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engineerVOL said:
No I didn't.

But I expected more production out of the offense. And a little more life out of the pass rush. It was demoralizing to be honest. I saw the same tendencies from last year. I wasn’t surprised to see Jordan produce. I wasn’t surprised to see the WRs produce. Don’t tell me when Kennedy whiffed on the opening play of the season that it didn’t set a morose tone for you. We looked like an FCS team that first drive.

I’ll get my spirits back up, but that just wasn’t good.
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I felt like i did when I saw the center throw the ball over Peyton's head during the first play of the superbowl. Thankfully things got better after we settled down, unfortunately we spotted them 10 points.
 
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I'm honestly shocked by the amount of fans this game seemed to bring crashing back to earth. Maybe I have missed it in years past but this seemed to be the most grounded I have ever seen this fanbase prior to a season. It looked to me like most people were predicting between 5-7 and 7-5 (I picked 6-6 multiple times) and yet the meltdown that was ongoing even last night paints an entirely different picture.

The amount of hype people apparently secretly had for this tran is astonishing considering what I thought most of us KNEW we had. There are still people acting like our team coming out and looking a lot like last year was a surprise...how could anyone have not known that a brand new coach was going to struggle to drastically improve the worst UT team of all time? It just doesn't happen in the first year. If we look like this next year, THEN I will be worried but despite the fact that 90% of the board was predicting a mediocre year, it seems like a lot of them are really struggling to actually watch it happen in real time.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
You should start drinking your coffee from that cat cup you let me use a couple years ago, since you are bordering on the line of being a negative Nancy, like Catbone. Lol!

Wow! It was only 2 years ago that we were smacking VT all over the racetrack at Bristol. Seems so long ago.
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Not really negative more cynical. We're just back to where when Butch took over. Just really tiring of top to bottom rebuilds.

That was the most fun I've had at UT game in forever.
 
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Too early to worry about Helton?

I say way too early. He had some nice play designs Saturday. Rhythm was simply off. Again, felt like he relied too much on scripted stuff or "got to" calls. That hitch to boundary wideout was open all game
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Did you count how many times WVU in max protection?

I didn't. But it was a lot. Vols also schemed several plays well, but as Pruitt said, they simply didn't execute. First touchdown was a great example. Tennessee knew Grier wouldn't throw to TEs on that play so they doubled teamed both receivers. But Warrior busted his assignment and then Abernathy missed the tackle ... boom touchdown.
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On tight ends:
The TEs were really bad blocking the edge (especially down in the red zone). Wolf also missed twice on screen passes
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Jason Allen
He's another who should see lots of work over the next two weeks.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Tim Jordan didn't get near the carries the next two weeks as he did this past week. I think the staff will want to keep his legs fresh for the meat of the schedule, while also giving longer looks at Banks, Coleman and others. Wouldn't be shocked one bit if TJ only got about 5-10 carries the next two weeks.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Not really negative more cynical. We're just back to where when Butch took over. Just really tiring of top to bottom rebuilds.

That was the most fun I've had at UT game in forever.
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Can't wait for Florida, I want to see the second half of 16 game for 4 quarters. Most fun I've had at any game. Hate Gators with a passion.
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Tim Jordan didn't get near the carries the next two weeks as he did this past week. I think the staff will want to keep his legs fresh for the meat of the schedule, while also giving longer looks at Banks, Coleman and others. Wouldn't be shocked one bit if TJ only got about 5-10 carries the next two weeks.
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I agree, think this should happen.
 
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BigOrange15 said:
I'm honestly shocked by the amount of fans this game seemed to bring crashing back to earth. Maybe I have missed it in years past but this seemed to be the most grounded I have ever seen that fanbase prior to a season. It looked to me the most people were predicting between 5-7 and 7-5 (I picked 6-6 multiple times) and yet the meltdown that was ongoing even last night paints an entirely different picture.

The amount of hype people apparently secretly had for this time is astonishing considering what I thought most of us KNEW we had. There are still people acting like our team coming out and looking a lot like last year was a surprise...how could anyone have not known that a brand new coach was going to struggle to drastically improve the worst UT team of all time? It just doesn't happen in the first year. If we look like this next year, THEN I will be worried but despite the fact that 90% of the board was predicting a mediocre year, it seems like a lot of them are really struggling to actually watch it happen in real time.
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Most people were thinkin 5-7 to 7-5 with an outside chance at an upset. Most thought we might not win but would be in most games. Most thought we'd see an improved team fundamentally. Some thought we could/would beat WV or at least give them a game. I don't think many saw WV dominating us in every phase.
 
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Smokey123 said:
WVU averaged 34 PPG and 459 yards per game on 72 plays. Bama averaged 444 yards and 37 points on 67 plays. One played in the SEC West and the other the B12. And now Tua is finally the starter. Hurts was not very good last year and they still put up crazy numbers, this is the best offense Bama has ever had with Saban.
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What we’re WV’s numbers before Grier missed the final 3-4 games?
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Tim Jordan didn't get near the carries the next two weeks as he did this past week. I think the staff will want to keep his legs fresh for the meat of the schedule, while also giving longer looks at Banks, Coleman and others. Wouldn't be shocked one bit if TJ only got about 5-10 carries the next two weeks.
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Maybe for UTEP. ETSU is for the starters to gel and they should get the whole first half.
 
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engineerVOL said:
No I didn't.

But I expected more production out of the offense. And a little more life out of the pass rush. It was demoralizing to be honest. I saw the same tendencies from last year. I wasn’t surprised to see Jordan produce. I wasn’t surprised to see the WRs produce. Don’t tell me when Kennedy whiffed on the opening play of the season that it didn’t set a morose tone for you. We looked like an FCS team that first drive.

I’ll get my spirits back up, but that just wasn’t good.
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Man... that first snap... and series was a total punch in the manfruit.

"Here we go again"

Hopefully we will all look back on that after many championships and laugh at how the Pruitt era began... with our heralded Alabama transfer center ushering the DT through the line
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Tim Jordan didn't get near the carries the next two weeks as he did this past week. I think the staff will want to keep his legs fresh for the meat of the schedule, while also giving longer looks at Banks, Coleman and others. Wouldn't be shocked one bit if TJ only got about 5-10 carries the next two weeks.
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Depends on Chandler and London being cleared from concussion protocol. If both or even 1 is back the next yeah but if neither plays then you only have Jordan and Banks
 
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Everyone has and is entitled to his/her own opinion; it doesn’t make us right.

I listened to Jeremy on the radio after the game, I watched his postgame press conference, and I watched his TV show yesterday. If you don’t believe Jeremy Pruitt 100% believes we should have won the game Saturday, well I’m sorry, you’re just plain wrong. Jmo.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
Everyone has and is entitled to his/her own opinion; it doesn’t make us right.

I listened to Jeremy on the radio after the game, I watched his postgame press conference, and I watched his TV show yesterday. If you don’t believe Jeremy Pruitt 100% believes we should have won the game Saturday, well I’m sorry, you’re just plain wrong. Jmo.
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Arguably the most important person to believe the team is going to win. Right guy right time.
 
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I think the thing that concerns me the most is that we just literally don't have a single good edge rusher... Taylor and Kongbo seemed like they didn't even suit up this weekend... If you can't pressure the quarterback we honestly might go 3-9 or 4-8 this season because our offense is not going to be able to outscore anyone in our conference including vandy and kentucky. i think the O line will improve alot if they stay healthy but i do not think that's the case for the D-line as we are void of talent there it seems with the exception being Tuttle.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Most people were thinkin 5-7 to 7-5 with an outside chance at an upset. Most thought we might not win but would be in most games. Most thought we'd see an improved team fundamentally. Some thought we could/would beat WV or at least give them a game. I don't think many saw WV dominating us in every phase.
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I thought we'd lose to WVU, but compete for most of the game. Didn't see us getting smoked like that at all. There were a lot of people on this board who were predicting a win though, and a lot of those same ones were thinking 8 or 9 wins as well. Nobody who was looking at this program objectively before the season could have honestly thought this team was going to win that amount of games. Unrealistic. I'll be pretty happy if we make a bowl, because I think that's going to be very difficult.
 
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Some bright spots for me:

1. We have our QB. This one is big coming from game 1. Even after a win last yr in game 1 we didn't know who our QB should be neither did the team

2. Running game despite Chandler missing basically entire game then London missing most of 2nd half. We have a nice group 1-4 there.

3. OL got better as the game went along. Disaster start but they eventually got going. The mistakes are correctable with more playing time together. Trey missed all of spring and most of camp. Jahmir had the hand injury first part of fall camp. Kennedy had a hamstring the week before last that had Him miss the first few days of treys return that had jahmir move to G which caused johnson to miss RG work working at C. These guys really only worked this past week together as a unit in there spots.

4. Alexis showed he can help. Each of the starting DL had a nice moment of two in game just need more

5. WRs are much better coached

Negative spots:

1. Lbs were total non factor - talent seems too good to stay bad here- hoping the matchup was the issue here.

2. TEs were not good in run game - I see why they worried about this position as soon as they got here.

3. Abernathy, Buchanon, Osborne are atrocious - now we see why he is in a hurry to play his guys. Also see why we moved 2 WRs and a RB to secondary. - Abernathy is just bad at football- Buchanon doesn't challenge for the ball

4. Didn't challenge them vertically offensively. Think we missed a chance here. Our WRs were working the DBs
 
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