Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[Big Orange#1]

This forum has more puss*es than the women’s march

 

[TheTimeIsNow]

I knew we wouldn't be good this year but I guess I wanted to believe we would be good. Life's just hard being a Vols fan but I can't switch teams every other year like some of my friends I know.

 

[KB5252]

Watching the LSU Miami game tonight made me sick. Hearing the names of multiple contributors for LSU and listing their hometowns in middle tn.

The problem isn't with tn players being overrated. It's that the best just don't want to play here any longer. The ones we do get seen to be very overrated. We miss even when we win.

 

[lifeVol]

Is that a net positive?

Yes, no doubt.

 

[Aesius]

Some of us knew. Others chose to eat up the hype spewed by VQ and at times 247. Happens just about every year.

I also want to point out that I don’t believe that story Basilio put out there about Pruitt guaranteeing a win to big boosters. That was a shot in the dark for some clicks.

If we talk about Basilio's credibility enough we might be able to lure Ziti out of hibernation.

 

[85SugarVol]

He'll have them rolling for another week until they get smacked in the mouth by Auburn

LSU looked pretty good tonight. That defense is fast and physical

 

[Aesius]

Holy crap I just realized if we start 2-6 we will have lost 14 straight SEC games

It really feels like we're right back to 2010-2013 again. The Jones era was good for a Florida win and a Hail Mary. That's about it.

 

[MockingVol]

Holy crap I just realized if we start 2-6 we will have lost 14 straight SEC games

Don’t worry about that Cat, because we beat UF at home in a few weeks.

 

[85SugarVol]

It really feels like we're right back to 2010-2013 again. The Jones era was good for a Florida win and a Hail Mary. That's about it.

APR

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I like him too. And by no means are giving up on him. But, he's the 4th coach in a row that was probably not ready for a job this big. Let's hope the 4th ti e is the charm.

Here is example#1 that what I said the other night about the lynch mob Fahr Pruitt mentality being a danger is true...

Here we have a good, normally posi-only poster already expressing serious doubt that Pruitt can do the job.."Not ready for a job this big"

One game in..And here we go.

 

[AllVol11717]

Here is example#1 that what I said the other night about the lynch mob Fahr Pruitt mentality being a danger is true...

Here we have a good, normally posi-only poster already expressing serious doubt that Pruitt can do the job.."Not ready for a job this big"

One game in..And here we go.

As down in the dumps as you’ve been the past couple of days it’s nice to see you’re still not afraid to point out how much more ridiculous some people’s reactions have been.

 

[lifeVol]

WVU averaged 34 PPG and 459 yards per game on 72 plays. Bama averaged 444 yards and 37 points on 67 plays. One played in the SEC West and the other the B12. And now Tua is finally the starter. Hurts was not very good last year and they still put up crazy numbers, this is the best offense Bama has ever had with Saban.

After watching most of their game, I tend to agree, best bama O Saban has fielded it looks like. Tua making pretty big difference in their ability to scheme to whatever they need.

 

[JAllen18]

Here is example#1 that what I said the other night about the lynch mob Fahr Pruitt mentality being a danger is true...

Here we have a good, normally posi-only poster already expressing serious doubt that Pruitt can do the job.."Not ready for a job this big"

One game in..And here we go.

Beat Florida and the lynch mob will be back on Pruitt's nuts.

 

[IH8TheHaslams]

LSU looked pretty good tonight. That defense is fast and physical

True, I feel like LSU is always overrated early in the season

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Rucker is on point here

Rucker: Reality-check yourself after Vols' rough opener

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Biggest takeaway from yesterday is that we had the orange shades on and thought we had way more talent on this team. Now we know and wont be surprised again.

I tried to te...oh never mind. I will just get kicked in the teeth some more.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

I just can't believe some people here thought that our true freshman secondary was about to give the business to an All-american WR, All-american QB, and another WR with more catches last season than our entire WR roster(!) 97 to 92.

Now, we're ready to write off the entire secondary. The truth is, they will get better every single game with more experience. Yes, they guys who have been here have probably reached their general ceilings, but Pruitt has now seen that face to face, and will at the very least, get some young players in there to take their lumps, and then improve.

I can tell you one thing. That performance was the bottom for this secondary, and they are nothing but moving upwards from here on out.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

This thread is so feast or famine. It didn't used to be like this.

Too much hype before the game. Too much resignation after.

What happened to all the even-keeled opinions?

 

[JAllen18]

I just can't believe some people here thought that our true freshman secondary was about to give the business to an All-american WR, All-american QB, and another WR with more catches last season than our entire WR roster(!) 97 to 92.

Now, we're ready to write off the entire secondary. The truth is, they will get better every single game with more experience. Yes, they guys who have been here have probably reached their general ceilings, but Pruitt has now seen that face to face, and will at the very least, get some young players in there to take their lumps, and then improve.

I can tell you one thing. That performance was the bottom for this secondary, and they are nothing but moving upwards from here on out.

Agreed, this unit will be the strength of the defense by the end of the year.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Agreed, this unit will be the strength of the defense by the end of the year.

People looking at Mizzou and USCe as being certain losses are completely negating the growth factor. First time coach with a very young position group, playing what will probably end up as a top 10 team. As is, yes, this team wins maybe 5. But I'm not looking at that... nor unrealistically thinking we become monsters later. I expect constant improvement in some areas, and realize others are probably going to stagnate.

OL will gel, if healthy. They've barely practiced together.
Secondary will improve greatly.

DL and LB I don't have much hope for, and the rest of the positions did well.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

If Pruitt doesn't win 8 next year, I don't think he's the guy, imo

Eh idk he was dealt a really, really poor hand as far as the defensive roster he was left. The offense should be able to pick up where they left off next year, but the defense will be losing a huge chunk of contributors in the front 7.

And very few of the guys Butch and Shoop brought in in 2017 seem to match their ranking or fit into our new defense. IMO it’s gonna be year 3 before we can expect to see Pruitt finally put the kind of defense everybody wants to see in th field.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

It’s easy to rationalize a 6-6 season before it starts. It’s hard to watch it actually unfold.

This is so true...I knew it was coming, I knew it would take more than a few practices to fix this mess, but still in my heart I wanted to believe the inflators were right and I was wrong. I am really disappointed that SOME guys are still flopping around spastically trying to tackle, and playing pansy ball. I was hoping they would play tougher and more disciplined..

There are some positives though, and I hope the patient teaching starts to pay dividends as the season goes along.

I do not place blame on the staff for this. These guys are all proven teachers, but you can't teach someone who either isn't inclined, or just simply unable to learn.

As the roster is turned over, the program will get better.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Here is example#1 that what I said the other night about the lynch mob Fahr Pruitt mentality being a danger is true...

Here we have a good, normally posi-only poster already expressing serious doubt that Pruitt can do the job.."Not ready for a job this big"

One game in..And here we go.

Where did I say I was ready to fire Pruitt? I simply pointed out that CJP has no head coaching experience and it's tough to get that at school like TN. When you hire unproven coaches the risk of failure is greater. I can't back this up with statistics, maybe Chatt can help us out here but I'd say based on statistics alone, he's more likely to fail than be successful. All I've done is point out that because of his lack of head coaching experience we don't know what to expect.

 

[IH8TheHaslams]

Eh idk he was dealt a really, really poor hand as far as the defensive roster he was left. The offense should be able to pick up where they left off next year, but the defense will be losing a huge chunk of contributors in the front 7.

And very few of the guys Butch and Shoop brought in in 2017 seem to match their ranking or fit into our new defense. IMO it’s gonna be year 3 before we can expect to see Pruitt finally put the kind of defense everybody wants to see in th field.

Some good points there, I based that statement assuming we show improvement over the course of this season, hopefully resulting in at least 6 wins this year.

 

[Smokey123]

After watching most of their game, I tend to agree, best bama O Saban has fielded it looks like. Tua making pretty big difference in their ability to scheme to whatever they need.

Yup. Tua is likely the best QB saban has ever had at Bama. McCarrron is the only one that comes close, Tua adds another dimension with his legs...