Great WVa game recap from Simonton

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jakez4ut said:
We've heard the negatives.

That's not the problem.
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Not sure what that means. For some it is. I've heard fans saying they still think we can go 9-3. Others are saying Pruitt and Helton are over rated. That tells me they aren't paying attention to the negatives. If they were they'd know why we aren't going 9-3 and that Pruitt/Helton are not the problem.
 
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Skizer41 said:
Not sure what that means. For some it is. I've heard fans saying they still think we can go 9-3. Others are saying Pruitt and Helton are over rated. That tells me they aren't paying attention to the negatives. If they were they'd know why we aren't going 9-3 and that Pruitt/Helton are not the problem.
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Excellent post. Its been sad to see people calling Pruitt and Helton overrated. But that shouldnt come as a shock, some people are just flat out dumb.
 
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Funny people complaining about lack of down field passing when most were saying last week to just run the ball and shorten the game. I think that was the game plan. Control the ball and the clock. It worked but WV just was too good offensively with big plays. Look at OU last 2 years with their offense. Time of possession means nothing.
 
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a vol n tears said:
Funny people complaining about lack of down field passing when most were saying last week to just run the ball and shorten the game. I think that was the game plan. Control the ball and the clock. It worked but WV just was too good offensively with big plays. Look at OU last 2 years with their offense. Time of possession means nothing.
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It does when you aren't scoring points when you possess the ball, which is not the case for Oklahoma who averaged 45 PPG in 2017.
 
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It's odd that all the recruiting services happened to miss on the players who signed with Tennessee, as did all the coaches at the top programs that offered them scholarships.

It's lack of coaching, not lack of talent. They didn't have it under Butch and no one knows if Pruitt is capable of developing players either. He's always been on staff's with people who are known developers of talent from the top down. Tennessee football is a grand experiment, as sad as that is, at a time when it was absolutely key to grab someone who was proven and somewhat stable, we got the opposite of that in Pruitt. Stuck with it for a while it seems. Just have to hope he's got a clue and pay him millions for on the job training.
 
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Well, we all saw the same thing. The one disagreement I have is that I think we will see improvement in every category which will make the season a little more enjoyable than what Simonton predicts. Yes, play the young ones. I was shocked at the lack of speed for the D. Maybe they were thinking to much with the new scheme. We will find out for sure SOON.
 
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Vol Main said:
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Absolutely serious. In 2013, Butch beat a top 10 SC and came within a few yards of beating a top 10 UGA all with Dooleys guys. Butch had a great OL that year. Do you honestly see us even competeing with, much less beating 2 top 10 teams this year? I mean for crying out loud, this team is so bad that Pruitt had to start FR DBs against a Heisman candidate and AA WRs.
 
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NEVolFan said:
We'll be watching you Helton.
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He needs some pep in his step. Could have ran some mis-direction, double-pass using Jennings. He'll become predictable in the SEC quick based on the 1st game. Gotta mix it up and throw in some razzle-dazzle. OLine getting beat...roll the QB out.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
It's odd that all the recruiting services happened to miss on the players who signed with Tennessee, as did all the coaches at the top programs that offered them scholarships.

It's lack of coaching, not lack of talent. They didn't have it under Butch and no one knows if Pruitt is capable of developing players either. He's always been on staff's with people who are known developers of talent from the top down. Tennessee football is a grand experiment, as sad as that is, at a time when it was absolutely key to grab someone who was proven and somewhat stable, we got the opposite of that in Pruitt. Stuck with it for a while it seems. Just have to hope he's got a clue and pay him millions for on the job training.
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He's got a clue. Not much media exposure because it causes interference and can't be trusted. Plus he knows the shape of the program. I'm tired of hearing all you folks complain because it isn't being done overnight. The raw talent has to be developed and then it has to gel and mesh and come together as a unit. TIME ! LIKE 3-4 YEARS! Anyone wishing for something better.....wish in one hand .......
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
The stresses about Helton’s playcalling are going very overlooked. That ultimately may be what did us in the most. Maybe we can chalk it up to first game jitters, but he promised us an aggressive offense and didn’t even remotely deliver on that (in a game where we HAD to be aggressive on offense to win)
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I really didn't understand why we ran the ball on 3rd and 4 inside their 40 as we had momentum and realized WVa #24 db was terrible in coverage. Would have gone to his side with a pass. I feel Helton didn't want to put Geronimo in bad situations and ask too much of him as he didn't have great situations from last year and he about got his head knocked off earlier. Geronimo has potential to work with. Coaches now have film from this game to show our guys what to do and what not to do. It will be interesting to see if improvement will happen from this point forward. We certainly do not have the talent or speed as other SEC teams. It will be an uphill battle for Tennessee to make 6-6 but I think that is a reasonable goal for this year's team. Jeremy also has realized by now for sure he is not at Alabama regarding talent and play. He may need to dial back some of his defensive schemes as our guys are not talented enough, too young, and too slow to execute and puts them in bad situations. He will adjust because I think he will be a good head coach with time and Tennessee did not open up with a cupcake like every other team in the SEC did excluding Auburn and LSU.
 
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would like to see more downfield passing early in the game...now that's being a little more aggressive to me...;)

GO VOLS!
 
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99gator said:
I looked up the 2016 and 2017 recruiting classes and he ain't lying
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And yet Utah State only lost to Michigan State by 7, Appy State took Penn State to overtime, Maryland beat Texas, and UCF and Boise are in the top 25. And this is just week 1. This happens every year. Look at Iowa State and UCF last year. I get that the talent on our roster hasn't been developed and/or may be overrated, but at some point you have to say this is the hand we were dealt, let's play to their strengths and put them in situations where they can succeed. I didn't expect to win, but I didn't expect to get blown out either. I drank the Kool-aid and thought Friend had the O-line much improved. I bought in that Kongbo and Taylor were going to be better off the edge. I was amused by Phillips' trash talk. Pruitt and staff deserve a lot of leeway. Changing systems, new staff, first-year head coach, brutal schedule, etc. I do, however, expect this team to get much better each and every week. Yes, I realize 7 wins is probably the ceiling. I just want to see a team that is competitive. That's not a lot to ask.
 
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I honestly don't recall them if they did run them or if the oline affected their ability to call them but why don't we call/run more wr crossing patterns. As a long time UT fan, it always seems that we don't run them a lot. I could be wrong, I just see really good teams run them all the time and we never seem to do them regularly (Regularly is the Key word). It may just be me wanting to find something to point to to help us improve. I still recall Florida killing us in the 90's and then this wv team ran a couple.
GBO
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
The stresses about Helton’s playcalling are going very overlooked. That ultimately may be what did us in the most. Maybe we can chalk it up to first game jitters, but he promised us an aggressive offense and didn’t even remotely deliver on that (in a game where we HAD to be aggressive on offense to win)
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I'm sure aggressive is the final product they want yes. Jumping straight into that game 1 with the unknowns and the knowns being what they were probably didnt make sense at the time.

They have some things to sure up before they get where they wanna be which is aggressive.
 
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a vol n tears said:
Funny people complaining about lack of down field passing when most were saying last week to just run the ball and shorten the game. I think that was the game plan. Control the ball and the clock. It worked but WV just was too good offensively with big plays. Look at OU last 2 years with their offense. Time of possession means nothing.
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Ya that definitely sounded great on the surface. But once the game got underway it became apparent that the intermediate pass was a massive advantage we had against them. Yet we stubbornly kept going back to run plays (and that horrific wr screen). The staff should've recognized that we have some incredibly athletic WRs going against some small inexperienced dbs and exploited that advantage. I think the article nails it when he says it felt like the whole game was scripted as opposed to just going with what was working. Spot on
 
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