Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[Ron Swanson]

Kentucky mixed with Vandy

 

[Ashevolle]

I'm going wait before I call the front 7 a disaster. WVU has a huge line and Grier has a fast mind and delivery. He also has escapability. There were times when we got some pressure and he was able to get away from it. Less talented offenses wont fare as well. Perhaps our front 7 is just mediocre but can grow into a (slightly) above average unit later this year.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Why not? He was a candidate for our coaching vacancy and he lost to a lesser opponent at home yesterday.

They have even less talent but I think Kelly is washed. As someone mentioned yesterday 80% of teams run that offense now.

 

[millst987]

So are you. You're letting BVS get you so bad you probably don't think we have a chance against ETSU. Get over the loss, and look at more than the negatives. There's plenty of positives to take from that game and move forward.

I made a point yesterday to take the glasses off and take a hard look at the program. We weren’t competitive man. We got absolutely abused on both sides of the ball. Every team can find positives in defeat. Candy finds positives after every game, as does Kentucky. You are stuck in the past bro.

 

[itsme]

Agree. The reason the secondary looked so bad is because Grier wasn’t in danger at all. He was able to pick apart our secondary with ease. In order to protect the young secondary you need a pass rush. If we don’t find a way to pressure the QB we won’t win many games moving forward. If Grier was under pressure regularly the game would have been very different.

Truth. Very little pressure, if any, the entire game. The sacks seemed to come from good coverage.

 

[UTProf]

I think Schiano would have tried to beat the Butch culture out them. Pruitt is doing it with love . Tough love and that is why they didn't quit last night. GBO! They're gonna go all Enter Sandman on Florida !

Yeah I didn't expect that. With how Jawja folks portrayed Pruitt, I honestly expected him to be an a-hole rage machine after the loss. Instead, he came across as a poised, tough but loving teacher. I'm trying not to connect with him before he's earned it but his presser post-defeat made me like him.

 

[Chief Vol 13]

Yeah and I’ve noticed the narrative has shifted on UT as a whole. It’s no longer “they suck but they used to be good.” Now it’s simply “they suck.”

And folks get bent whenever someone on ESPN doesn't include Tennessee on certain topics that we think we should be included in. Well, they shouldn't. We're a has been and nobody cares about a has been.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Did we stunt the DL at all yesterday? I'm sure as hell not going back to look.

 

[Chief Vol 13]

Why not? He was a candidate for our coaching vacancy and he lost to a lesser opponent at home yesterday.

He's a proven winner. Don't start with this BS

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

So are you. You're letting BVS get you so bad you probably don't think we have a chance against ETSU. Get over the loss, and look at more than the negatives. There's plenty of positives to take from that game and move forward.

Literally nobody thinks this.

 

[butchna]

I made a point yesterday to take the glasses off and take a hard look at the program. We weren’t competitive man. We got absolutely abused on both sides of the ball. Every team can find positives in defeat. Candy finds positives after every game, as does Kentucky. You are stuck in the past bro.

And you’re stuck in your own ass. One game in a schedule. I’m going to watch the rest, you poor victim. Spare yourself and spare us the updates.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Did we stunt the DL at all yesterday? I'm sure as hell not going back to look.

Pretty sure I saw it multiple times

 

[Ashevolle]

LA, I just don’t think we have the horses to get a W against UF right now.

Based on what? We have competed with them the last 3 years. They are not that good. Be terrified of Bama and Auburn, but not UF

 

[LA Vol]

If the D would just learn to tackle, we'd look a lot less inept. When half the defense grabs at air, fish-flops to the ground and doesn't wrap up, the other team looks really elusive. Technique is correctable. The younger guys can be taught; the older guys don't seem to want to learn.

 

[volsagain]

What about the other three players that he blew by?

Bad angle by warrior and others.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Why not? He was a candidate for our coaching vacancy and he lost to a lesser opponent at home yesterday.

Just that the resumes are completely different.

Chip wasn’t a true candidate because he was the #1 coach available and turned us down before we ever fired Butch.

Pruitt couldn’t get the Mississippi State job and was resigned to being a defensive coordinator for another year before our cluster**** presented an opportunity for him.

I think both guys are going to have success at their new jobs - but UCLA fans should rightfully feel much more secure about it.

 

[Ron Swanson]

Did we stunt the DL at all yesterday? I'm sure as hell not going back to look.

Not sure. 2 and 98 played well. But DE’s got no pressure. Grier was so comfortable back there. We need to sign 3+ pass rushers this class.

 

[Kingston Vol]

If the D would just learn to tackle, we'd look a lot less inept. When half the defense grabs at air, fish-flops to the ground and doesn't wrap up, the other team looks really elusive. Technique is correctable. The younger guys can be taught; the older guys don't seem to want to learn.

And in addition to that, I think as the game goes along it is much harder to keep the new technique you’ve been taught. If it’s not natural it goes away as you start to get gassed.

 

[volsagain]

I'm going wait before I call the front 7 a disaster. WVU has a huge line and Grier has a fast mind and delivery. He also has escapability. There were times when we got some pressure and he was able to get away from it. Less talented offenses wont fare as well. Perhaps our front 7 is just mediocre but can grow into a (slightly) above average unit later this year.

HOPE

 

[WriterVol]

This thread is so feast or famine. It didn't used to be like this.

Too much hype before the game. Too much resignation after.

What happened to all the even-keeled opinions?

 

[RikidyBones]

This thread is so feast or famine. It didn't used to be like this.

Too much hype before the game. Too much resignation after.

What happened to all the even-keeled opinions?

was my reaction not even keeled ?

 

[LA Vol]

UCLA fans are totally behind Chip. UCLA is playing a lot of FR and Speight went out with a back injury early in the game. So they were playing a FR at QB and he couldn't hold serve. Both teams have a way to go and young talent that needs seasoning. I'm an alum of both schools, so I got served a double helping of suckage, and I'm sure there will be more to come.

 

[ob79]

Kentucky mixed with Vandy

Yeah and I’ve noticed the narrative has shifted on UT as a whole. It’s no longer “they suck but they used to be good.” Now it’s simply “they suck.”

We are Kentucky football

Kentucky mixed with Vandy

What a bunch of pansies y'all are...

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Hot and Not

HOT
The second quarter: Down 10-0, Tennessee found its offensive rhythm. Tennessee had seven first downs and 108 yards, holding the football for 12:03 in the second period
Tim Jordan: The sophomore tailback had a career-high 118 yards on 20 carries and a touchdown carrying the load after Ty Chandler's injury. Jordan also ran physical, falling forward most of the afternoon.

NOT
The start: Tennessee's offense looked completely overwhelmed to start the game. The Vols first five snaps went for -19 yards. Its first five first down plays went for -15 yards. Defensively, they gave up 124 yards on their first 12 snaps, including two plays of more than 20 yards.
Second half defense: After holding West Virginia to 10 first half points and controlling the game clock wise in the first half, the Mountaineers dominated the second half scoring touchdowns on 5 of 6 possessions.
Quarterback pressure: Tennessee was actually credited with two sacks on Saturday. Something it took them three games to accomplish a year ago, but they never made Will Grier uncomfortable and first too many times he had all day to throw turning it into what looked like a summer passing league 7-on-7 game.

Defining Moments

4th and goal at the 1: Down 10-0, Jeremy Pruitt never hesitated. He wanted six and he wanted to show his team they play to win, so Pruitt went for it throwing a 1 yard touchdown pass to Dominique Wood-Anderson to make it a 10-7 game. It was a much touchdown and a clear statement from Pruitt
3rd and 6 to start the second half: No one is saying it's the difference in the game, but down just 13-7 and after a lengthy weather delay, the Vol defense had a chance to get off the field forcing a three and out, but Grier hit Marcus Simms for 32 yards and West Virginia would throw a 33 yard touchdown pass on the next play.
Will Grier scramble on 2nd and 13 to end half: There was a questionable no call on a peel back block, but Tennessee's defense had Grier in its grasp which would have taken the Mountaineers out of field goal range if the Vols could have make the tackle. Grier instead turned it into a positive play and set up the Mountaineers field goal to end the first half making it 13-7 at the half.
West Virginia 3rd and 4 TD pass to Kennedy McCoy: An obvious bust in the Tennessee secondary left the tailback all alone out of the backfield for a walk in touchdown. The touchdown made it a three-position game and officially end it.

Inside the Numbers

10 – Number of plays of 20 yards or more by the West Virginia offense. After overing giving up 2 in the first half, they gave up 8 in the second.

9.3 – Average yards gained on first down in the Vols two scoring drives. They had just 4.75 yards on first down in non-scoring drives. Tennessee's first five first down plays netted -15 yards.

83% – West Virginia's third down conversion rate in the second half as they converted 5-6 third downs after not converting a third down in the first half.

0 – number of game management penalties and time outs taken by Pruitt for game management issues.

Gameball

Jarrret Guarantano: The redshirt sophomore completed a career-high 76 percent of his throws, going 19 of 25 for 172 yards and a touchdown. Guarantano didn't put the ball in harms way as he had no turnovers and the was in the best rhythm of his career. Guarantano also showed off a new found demeanor whee he just went and played the next play no matter what had happened.

Biggest Question/Concern Moving Forward

The biggest question about this team moving forward is what's their learning curve in development? This team is going to get better throughout the year, but how good can they become. That's still a real question when you consider their deficiencies in certain places on this roster.

The follow up to that is can the use the next two weeks effectively to try and jump start the development of this team.

--Hubbs

 

[zhangliao04]

Man, I love the hype. The hype is what makes football so much fun and I want to have fun. Yeah, a win really helps, but I only get 12 games plus a bowl to watch this team so I'm choosing to do my best about having a positive and fun outlook.