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Ron Swanson said:
UCLA lost to Cincy at home? Wonder if those fans are giving up on Chip like some of you are giving up on Pruitt after one game. Hahaha.

Fact is WVU is legit and we’re further away from being good than most of us thought. But also there will be improvement over the next two weeks. We’ll know a lot more about this team when the gators come to town. Must find a pass rush if we want to make a bowl game.
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No one cares about football at UCLA
 
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zhangliao04 said:
Honestly, I don't understand why we are doing a 20th anniversary celebration. That may just be me and I'm not trying to be negative about it. I just think this sets the team up for a very high pressure situation. We need to stop that.
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That's been my concern for a while. They did it because Fulmer and others wanted it then. They were feeling confident about the UF game and thought a big victory with big dogs in the house would be great for PR, fundraising and recruiting. They thought the players would step up and it would be beneficial for the program. Can't really cancel it now.
 
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DEFINING MOMENTS
4th and goal at the 1: Down 10-0, Jeremy Pruitt never hesitated. He wanted six and he wanted to show his team they play to win, so Pruitt went for it throwing a 1 yard touchdown pass to Dominique Wood-Anderson to make it a 10-7 game. It was a much touchdown and a clear statement from Pruitt
3rd and 6 to start the second half: No one is saying it's the difference in the game, but down just 13-7 and after a lengthy weather delay, the Vol defense had a chance to get off the field forcing a three and out, but Grier hit Marcus Simms for 32 yards and West Virginia would throw a 33 yard touchdown pass on the next play.
Will Grier scramble on 2nd and 13 to end half: There was a questionable no call on a peel back block, but Tennessee's defense had Grier in its grasp which would have taken the Mountaineers out of field goal range if the Vols could have make the tackle. Grier instead turned it into a positive play and set up the Mountaineers field goal to end the first half making it 13-7 at the half.
West Virginia 3rd and 4 TD pass to Kennedy McCoy: An obvious bust in the Tennessee secondary left the tailback all alone out of the backfield for a walk in touchdown. The touchdown made it a three-position game and officially end it.


INSIDE THE NUMBERS
10 – Number of plays of 20 yards or more by the West Virginia offense. After overing giving up 2 in the first half, they gave up 8 in the second.
9.3 – Average yards gained on first down in the Vols two scoring drives. They had just 4.75 yards on first down in non-scoring drives. Tennessee's first five first down plays netted -15 yards.
83% – West Virginia's third down conversion rate in the second half as they converted 5-6 third downs after not converting a third down in the first half.
0 – number of game management penalties and time outs taken by Pruitt for game management issues.
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VQ
 
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LA Vol said:
That's been my concern for a while. They did it because Fulmer and others wanted it then. They were feeling confident about the UF game and thought a big victory with big dogs in the house would be great for PR, fundraising and recruiting. They thought the players would step up and it would be beneficial for the program. Can't really cancel it now.
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Really really bold move, too. This team needs to grow up quickly over the next couple of games (which I believe they will).
 
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zhangliao04 said:
Honestly, I don't understand why we are doing a 20th anniversary celebration. That may just be me and I'm not trying to be negative about it. I just think this sets the team up for a very high pressure situation. We need to stop that.
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Right. Like we needed another reason to play tight against FL...
 
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Odd that shamburger didn't get any run or very little if he did.

We should have thrown it more. It was working.

I was scared about Ol after first few series until they showed some replays and it wasn't a physical issue. It was a cohesive issue which we probably should have expected with a line that hasn't scrimmaged together be a defense with so much movement

I think offense will be much better as season goes. Defense scares me though. Not enough dogs that can win man on man
 
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Going to admit, Pruitt has balls. Our first TD I'm in the stands about to have a heart attack when we are going for it on 4th and one. Half because we are going for it on 4th and 1 in the first half and secondly because that was win I got to experience what kind of coach we have: a ballsy one that wants and plays to win.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
UCLA lost to Cincy at home? Wonder if those fans are giving up on Chip like some of you are giving up on Pruitt after one game. Hahaha.

Fact is WVU is legit and we’re further away from being good than most of us thought. But also there will be improvement over the next two weeks. We’ll know a lot more about this team when the gators come to town. Must find a pass rush if we want to make a bowl game.
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BVS is real, Ron.

And I'm not ready to say this team isn't as talented as we think. They've had mediocre coaching from a coach who, more often than not, coached scared. That adversely affected their development, period. Maybe it's too late for some but, I'm not convinced that there are more than a few guys who are hungry for good coaching.
 
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HankHill said:
So here’s a play that i watched again...



We come out in a cover 2 man under look. Which honestly should cover this play perfectly:

Diagramed like this:


The problem is the Lb bites on the playfake instead of dropping straight back. Even though Buchanan was beat and chasing, if the LB doesn’t bite and drops back that route has to go deeper and would be a tougher throw and closer to the safety.... and I’m not even going to comment on Abernathy’s tackle attempt.

Good call, poor execution.
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That play is 100% on Abernathy not making a tackle
 
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volinbama256 said:
I am certainly not giving up on this team at all, I still totally believe in this coaching staff top to bottom, I am just a little shocked at how poorly we played in the secondary... I figured we would struggle on the D line and a few other areas...

People need to understand that these are the last coach's kids and their development and attitude are a direct result of his poor coaching. It will take time to wash the stink off and I think a lot of us thought we were farther along by just having better chemistry and a new staff. A few more things go our way yesterday and the refs actually call some penalties, and we lose respectably...

The O line, WR/play calling, and hopefully LB play will improve, but what worries me is getting push and pressure up front on the D line and something HAS to improve in the secondary or we are toast the rest of the season.
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Agree. The reason the secondary looked so bad is because Grier wasn’t in danger at all. He was able to pick apart our secondary with ease. In order to protect the young secondary you need a pass rush. If we don’t find a way to pressure the QB we won’t win many games moving forward. If Grier was under pressure regularly the game would have been very different.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
UCLA lost to Cincy at home? Wonder if those fans are giving up on Chip like some of you are giving up on Pruitt after one game. Hahaha.

Fact is WVU is legit and we’re further away from being good than most of us thought. But also there will be improvement over the next two weeks. We’ll know a lot more about this team when the gators come to town. Must find a pass rush if we want to make a bowl game.
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Nobody's giving up on Pruitt lol
 
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Chief Vol 13 said:
I think we pump the breaks on some of this stuff. Just makes Tennessee more of a laughing stock. "Well, they got one 20 years ago", "Living in the past" type comments. Past means nothing.
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Yeah and I’ve noticed the narrative has shifted on UT as a whole. It’s no longer “they suck but they used to be good.” Now it’s simply “they suck.”
 
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millst987 said:
Man, y’all are reaching right now. It’s actually kinda sad.
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So are you. You're letting BVS get you so bad you probably don't think we have a chance against ETSU. Get over the loss, and look at more than the negatives. There's plenty of positives to take from that game and move forward.
 
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zhangliao04 said:
Really really bold move, too. This team needs to grow up quickly over the next couple of games (which I believe they will).
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Yep. UT held off announcing it for a long time. The team looked to be progressing well in practice. The players seemed mentally tough and ready to compete. But they weren't.
 
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